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Does seeing "The Gods must be crazy" mean you have more intellect?

It was a fairly popular movie, so I guess the world is just full of people
as intellectual as Harry.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John P Reber wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote:



I don't have a "minister" or any other icon religious figure.

Dave



Dave still prays to that Coca-Cola bottle that fell from the sky into
his yard.


The Gods must be crazy.

Great movie.


Indeed; a classic. Betcha Dave hasn't seen it.


--
A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:50:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:


Not at all. There are dozens of examples of Bush's lies, in which he
said one thing and then did another, or deliberately obfuscated his
actual position. The man lies about everything.

Such as?

Dave

Everything:

The entire or unabated amount or quantity of; the whole extent,
substance, or compass of; the whole.


That's a non-answer.

Dave

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:46:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:


Maybe because I studied the art of propaganda when I was in school,
that I'm more sensitive to these tricks. But to me it's blatantly
obvious.

It's hard to believe you studied much of anything, Dave. Where did you
matriculate...at Bob Jones U?

That's irrelevant. What is relevant is that propaganda (and the people
who manufacture it) are quite adept at their work. Their skill at
language allows them to shift a persons reaction to a story simply by
adding a few descriptive adjectives, or changing the point of view.
But I suspect that you already know this being that you claim that one
of your "skills" is creating this sort of fluff for the democratic
party.


Here's a few short headline examples of how the same story (fictitious
in this case) can provoke an entirely different reaction:

"Iraqi bloodbath at local hospital results in another 3 dead U.S.
soldiers"

"U.S. soldiers successfully prevent terrorist attack at local
hospital, 3 soldiers gave their lives to save others. "

Dave

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:53:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:



I don't have a "minister" or any other icon religious figure.

Dave


Dave still prays to that Coca-Cola bottle that fell from the sky into
his yard.


No, I sold that on E-bay for $20

Dave

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:50:27 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John P Reber wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote:



I don't have a "minister" or any other icon religious figure.

Dave



Dave still prays to that Coca-Cola bottle that fell from the sky into
his yard.


The Gods must be crazy.

Great movie.


Indeed; a classic. Betcha Dave hasn't seen it.

I have, over 15 years ago. And your point?

Dave

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:02:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:38:02 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Hey Dave... if the news media is so liberally biased, why did so many
other newspapers put it in the headlines? Why did it makes such a big
splash in TV news?


Dave Hall wrote:
Because once the cat was let out of the bag, they had no choice but
to
acknowledge it, lest their silence draw suspicion as to their agenda
and motives. If you listen real carefully to the subtle differences
in
adjectives used to report this incident, you can almost see the
wheels
of spin working depending on which news source you watch or read.

Oh, I get it... they're being incredibly devious by reporting the news,
including stuff that goes totally against their supposed agenda...

Dave, do you really believe this tripe yourself, or are you just hoping
that some of your fellow dittoheads are dumb & paranoid enough swallow
it?

DSK


His minister told him. We shouldn't insult the guy until we've had a
chance
to roll him around the newsgroup a bit. I wonder if Dave can get him to
stop
by.

I don't have a "minister" or any other icon religious figure.

Dave

Well, ***someone*** puts you up to this. You couldn't possibly dream up some
of this nonsense yourself.


The fact that you don't agree with it, and more importantly that you
cannot refute it with any consistency, is no reason to discard it as
nonsense.

Dave

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:02:17 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:04:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .


"This is still the united states, dipstick, and BUSH hasn't been
convicted of anything. Ergo, the assumption is he is innocent."

Sound familiar? Or do you always apply a double standard?

Dave




Based on THAT logic, the Iraqis we killed should be brought back to life,
since they died for nothing.

Which Iraqi's? The ones who were loyal to Saddam, or the ones involved
in the current insurgence?

Dave


No. The innocent ones who got in the way.

How many "innocents" died in WWII? Should the fact that innocents
often die in war, deter us from the greater common good?

Dave

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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:02:17 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:04:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .


"This is still the united states, dipstick, and BUSH hasn't been
convicted of anything. Ergo, the assumption is he is innocent."

Sound familiar? Or do you always apply a double standard?

Dave




Based on THAT logic, the Iraqis we killed should be brought back to
life,
since they died for nothing.

Which Iraqi's? The ones who were loyal to Saddam, or the ones involved
in the current insurgence?

Dave


No. The innocent ones who got in the way.

How many "innocents" died in WWII? Should the fact that innocents
often die in war, deter us from the greater common good?

Dave


What a kristian thing to say. Some died here, so others should die there.
Did you CC your minister with that message?

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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:02:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:38:02 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Hey Dave... if the news media is so liberally biased, why did so
many
other newspapers put it in the headlines? Why did it makes such a
big
splash in TV news?


Dave Hall wrote:
Because once the cat was let out of the bag, they had no choice
but
to
acknowledge it, lest their silence draw suspicion as to their
agenda
and motives. If you listen real carefully to the subtle
differences
in
adjectives used to report this incident, you can almost see the
wheels
of spin working depending on which news source you watch or read.

Oh, I get it... they're being incredibly devious by reporting the
news,
including stuff that goes totally against their supposed agenda...

Dave, do you really believe this tripe yourself, or are you just
hoping
that some of your fellow dittoheads are dumb & paranoid enough
swallow
it?

DSK


His minister told him. We shouldn't insult the guy until we've had a
chance
to roll him around the newsgroup a bit. I wonder if Dave can get him
to
stop
by.

I don't have a "minister" or any other icon religious figure.

Dave

Well, ***someone*** puts you up to this. You couldn't possibly dream up
some
of this nonsense yourself.


The fact that you don't agree with it, and more importantly that you
cannot refute it with any consistency, is no reason to discard it as
nonsense.

Dave


It doesn't need to be refuted. It's sort of like an Alka Seltzer tablet. It
just dissolves.

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:06:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
Maybe because I studied the art of propaganda when I was in school,
that I'm more sensitive to these tricks. But to me it's blatantly
obvious.

And so you follow the side that has the most obvious & blatant
propaganda?

That you refuse to acknowledge "your sides" propaganda is even more
enlightening. You seem to think that you are getting the straight up
honest truth, while I am digesting a heavily spun bunch of propaganda.
Can you not see the arrogance and ignorance in that?

Is that like drinking the brand of diet soda that's most
heavily advertised?

If that were true, then I'd be a liberal.


BTW did you ever look up *any* of Bush's environmental policies? Care to
discuss them?

In which context?


How about his educational policies?

Which ones?

His policies with regard to the U.N. (now there's a set of flip-flops you can take to the
beach)?

The U.N is about as politically tainted as they come. They've
showcased their inability to effectively mediate an international
crisis. Their excessive foot dragging, gave Saddam the time he needed
to hide his WMD, and gave him the time to prepare for what was to
come. That France, Germany, and Russia had a financial interest in
Saddam's Iraq, and the oil for food program, pretty much answers the
question of why they were so adamantly against supporting our war
effort.


And you insist that you're not being hoodwinked...

I maintain that YOU are also being hoodwinked. We may both be to some
degree.





Dave, do you really believe this tripe yourself, or are you just hoping
that some of your fellow dittoheads are dumb & paranoid enough swallow it?


Or that maybe that you're to blind and partisan to consider it?

I prefer living in the real world, Dave. All sorts of fun things happen
out here. Of course, in the real world sometimes one has to admit one
might be wrong once in a while... but with you're in good company with
President Bush here. Neither of you acknowledge ever making any kind of
mistake. And of course neither of you ever ever lie!

When mistakes are made, I will admit to them. Bush has made a few
mistakes (Supporting that prescription plan was one) as well. He's
hardly a perfect leader. But he does have the right principles and has
the guts to go it with a small contingency when other major powers do
not want to get involved (At least until their buildings get bombed).

It will be curious, if Kerry gets elected, just how many of you
anti-war types change your opinions when it's shown that the threat is
still very real and we need to continue our mission. I suspect that
opposition to the war and the fight on terrorism is only a front for
your real animosity, which is Bush.

Dave

DSK