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Boats, friends, cash and gas
Hello Group,
I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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Correction on line 4: "afford".
"Lu Powell" wrote in message news:V%zYa.91257$o%2.40953@sccrnsc02... Had a neighbor like that. Invited him to go fishing once. Never asked him again. His wife asked if I was mad at him. I told her no, just that I couldn't afforded him. He had shortest arms and deepest pockets in the county. "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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"Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. I invite people aboard my boats for a days fishing - nobody invites themselves. If they or their friends offer gas money, I always turn them down, but it is noted and they always get another invite to go. I go with one guy who takes care of all the rigging and unrigging when we make a run - his idea is that if I won't take money, maybe I'll take the labor. Some of the guys I ask don't have the money to pay for a day on the water, but they will bring fresh bait, etc. One guy's wife cuts up fresh veggies, fruits and stuffs a Playmate cooler with homemade iced tea for us to take. My feeling is if I offer, then it's like inviting somebody over for dinner - you don't expect them to bring something, but if they do, so much the better. I'm going fishing anyway - no skin off my nose. And in thinking about it, I don't think I've ever had somebody not offer to pay for gas or bring something to use like bait or food. Later, Tom |
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All the time. If he is really your friend, there should be
no problem with you saying "I need you to pony up half the gas, dude; it costs me a lot, you know?" . If he is really your friend, and not a good time Skimpy, he will gladly put out. If he has a problem with it, for any reason, then you have a problem, and you know what it is. JR. Paul Doughty wrote: Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
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My Opinions:
- Just because you invite someone does NOT mean you can't ask for gas / expenses money. You can ask for anything you want; it's your prerogative. It *is* like asking someone over for dinner...you can ask them to bring a dish or the wine if you want to. - It is NOT uncouth to ask for 1/2 of expenses. Even if they are paying half of the out of pocket expenses for the day you still have the investment in the boat, probably lots of upkeep, responsibility, etc., etc. - They can say "no" and/or not offer anything. That is perfectly fine; that is their prerogative. - If they choose not to offer anything do not be mad at them. Just dont' invite them if you don't like it. - If you KEEP inviting them when they don't pay then you have NO right to bitch about it. - If you don't ask for anything and they don't give anything you might think they "should" give something. But some people are shy in weird ways...My feeling is you should not be mad at them if you don't ASK for something. Maybe they honestly don't know and/or honestly don't want to offer something for fear it will offend you. People think weird things... ASK them for what you want. "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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Tough call but if you continually invite then it's your deal. I usually
decline with thanks, as I would be going out with or without a guest. I do however understand that an offer to help would be welcomed. Most people that don't own boats assume that 50 gallons of fuel doesn't last as long in a boat as it does in a civic "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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Right on, Andrew. I always stop on the way HOME for fuel too. If you wait
and do it on the way out, you're just postponing the fun and that's the whole point of this. I hate bringing my boat back without a full tank of gas. Also like yourself, I'll only invite a dead beat a couple of times. After they stand there about twice and let me pay for everything and do all the cleaning up, they don't get invited back. The ones that make the effort, at least offer to pay, get invited regularly. It's not just about boating, it's about courtesy. I almost said "common courtesy" there but it's not so common anymore. Charles "Andrew Krapcha" wrote in message ... I make it a point to keep my boat full of fuel. On the way home I stop and fill it again. Whoever was along for the ride gets to see that it is not cheap to operate (once they comment I will also be glad to list all the underlying cost IE: maint., oil...) they usually pitch in for fuel. If they don't, you don't have to feel obligated to invite them along again. Before I bought my own boat, I never went fishing with friends without forking over some cash. Unless you want to provide free entertainment, don't invite deadbeats. Personally, I feel it is **** poor to ride for free. Andy k. "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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Amazing. I have always paid for ALL of the gas, bait, food, beer, etc.
when I could get away with it. The boat owner is paying for the boat, trailer, taxes, registration(s), interest, maintenance, and the other endless expenses. Seems like a hell of a deal to me! A buddy of mine often used to take me fishing up north in his "walleye" boat. His kicker crapped out so I picked up a new one for less than $1000. This is maybe 3-4 boat payments. He was shocked but he was the one really shelling out the big money. Now that I have two boats, I have never expected any money but my friends, to this point, seem to have followed the same philosophy as me. I never give it much thought since it all works out in the end. Dan Paul Dougherty wrote: Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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This has been an interesting thread, thanks for starting it.
Paul Dougherty wrote: Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. Your friend is either a dunce or a deadbeat. You and the other guys talked it over in front of him, right? He didn't offer a dime when everybody else chipped in, right? I've had several friends who were deadbeats. After noticing their pattern, and confirming it, I either quit doing things with them, or (if their company was worth it) only did things with them that the cost would not bother me. One of my best friends during and after college was a deadbeat... part of it was that he had been poor most of his life, and even after landing a good job could not bring himself to spend money (I think... we never talked about it and he's dead now). You have to decide for yourself whether to 1- stop inviting him or 2- discuss the issue with him with as much humor and grace as you can (preferably before inviting him again) or 3- just putting up with his deadbeat ways. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Paul- It's your fault for letting it go this long, you have to speak up,
the longer you drag it out the worst it gets, SPEAK UP! It's the same with boat duties, putting the bumpers/fenders out, loading-unloading the tackle and gear, cleaning up, covering the boat, trailer duty, you're the captain. SPEAK UP! Tom. |
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I have the same situation, but I've come not to expect anyone I entertain on
my boat to pony up gas money. I love going out on my boat, tubing etc, and the consumption of gas is part of having fun. My friends are all close and good and they usually offer to pay for gas, or do other things for me that make up for it. We often go to islands or nice little bays and have bbq picnics and stuff which are usually pot luck. Works out great. On the other hand, if I was low on cash... and someone offered to help pay for gas, I'd most definitely take them up on the offer. Mike "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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As our mothers would say, "Some people were raised in a barn", which is an
insult to the pigs, cows, goats and chickens. Even my own son offers to buy the potato chips when we stop to gas up the truck. (I let him because it makes him feel good, but I help fund his skateboard exploits and movies). Last night, I went to an orientation for his 9th grade class. Five seats away in the auditorium, there was a mother and 3 kids, all at least 12 years old. All four were talking at normal conversation volume for a loud restaurant, while school people were giving presentations. I told the mother that she and her kids were being obnoxious, so they moved to new seats and continued talking. Raised in a barn. |
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Hi,
Well you all have some good suggestions. I will consider them amd try one. I guess it will test our friendship if I ask for help with the fuel bill. Thanks to all who replied. Paul (Paul Dougherty) wrote in message . com... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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Most of the people I invite are close friends or family. I don't expect
anything from them. They wouldn't be in my boat (or a regular part of my life) if I didn't enjoy their company. Footing the expense bill for sharing some time with them is the least expensive dollar I'll ever spend. If it's a casual friend, I don't expect anything from them, but I am aware of whether or not they offer. The kind of person that offers tends to be the kind of person I want as a regular friend, even though I probably won't accept. If they buy snacks or drinks, that's plenty thanks. Most of us like to deal with considerate people. I find it's more just the awareness issue than anything else. If you are not considerate enough to offer every once in a while, I probably have other, better reasons for not inviting you. -- Rich Stern www.nitroowners.com - The Nitro and Tracker Owners Web Site www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site www.fishingreportdatabase.com - The Fishing Report Database www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site |
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I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant
it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. I hope you didn't clean his fish for him also on that trip after you paid the gas.... I always offer to pay for gas or help pay for part of it, etc. I also try to be the one who brings to cooler of drinks/snacks if I'm going out on someone elses boat. I don't always find people doing this when they go out on my boat. If it's someone who does offer, its because they too know what a boat operation coats, not to mention monthly payments, insurance, fee's, registration, maintenance, etc and they are usually a boat owner also. I've never asked for gas money, but personally I think it's the right thing to offer if you are going out on someone elses boat, even if you are a guest. Especially if it's a trip where a lot of gas is consumed. If they don't pay, not a big deal. I knew that boats cost money when I bought it. I don't ever get $$$ amount of money from everyone, it's just sometimes someone will bring a cooler of something or offer to pay when we are at the pump. It's funny to see a non boater realize how much gas was used and what it costs compared to prices of gas bought for a car. -mike |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ... Amazing. I have always paid for ALL of the gas, bait, food, beer, etc. when I could get away with it. The boat owner is paying for the boat, trailer, taxes, registration(s), interest, maintenance, and the other endless expenses. Seems like a hell of a deal to me! I have this philosphy too and will generally offer to cover all fuel and compromise at 50%. If I'm one of a group of guests, I'll pretty much make sure that we pay all fuel and treat the host like a king in the food and beverage dept. That's probably because I know what these things cost. I've rarely or never found anyone to make that offer when I take them on my boat, but nearly everyone offers to split the costs. Those that don't are usually friends with whom I do mutual recreational stuff - sometimes I provide the gear, sometimes they do and it all works out. A buddy of mine often used to take me fishing up north in his "walleye" boat. His kicker crapped out so I picked up a new one for less than $1000. This is maybe 3-4 boat payments. He was shocked but he was the one really shelling out the big money. I have a friend who gave me an old (late 60s) Mercury kicker on "permanent loan" (his words). He has come with me a few times boating and fishing. He brought the motor to use trolling, telling me he hadn't run it in 5 years and only a couple of times since he picked it up at a garage sale 10 years ago. He didn't even know what lower unit lube was when I asked if I should go ahead and change it and the plugs before we left. When he found out I changed the plugs and gear lube and filled the tank with *fresh* gas, he told me he thought the motor was better off being used by me regularly than sitting in his shed for years at a time. I'd have to say I agree 8-). It's 25 years old and really beat up (probably from being transported in the back of original owner's pickup), but compression is 125 each, inside the cowling, it looks like new and it runs like a top. I have feeling he will never ask for it back and he's got first seat on all major fishing trips. Plus, he pays 1/2 of the gas and oil. DJ |
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I wrote regarding a friend who permanently loaned me a kicker because I took
him fishing: I have feeling he will never ask for it back and he's got first seat on all major fishing trips. Plus, he pays 1/2 of the gas and oil. I meant to say he always offers to pay, but I don't let him but sometimes he figures out a way to do it anyway. I don't argue the point because sometimes I figure people just feel better paying. I know I do. DJ |
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"Bchbound" wrote in message ... In article , says... Paul- It's your fault for letting it go this long, you have to speak up, the longer you drag it out the worst it gets, SPEAK UP! It's the same with boat duties, putting the bumpers/fenders out, loading-unloading the tackle and gear, cleaning up, covering the boat, trailer duty, you're the captain. SPEAK UP! Tom. Damn, if the guy has to drive 140 miles round trip to use his boat he should consider moving! For those of use who live in the woods, it's necessary. And I wouldn't move for anything. ;) Later, Tom |
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I agree with one of the previous posters. I am going out anyways and
the extra weight of the people I invite really doesn't make my boat use much more gas. But that said, it is nice to get an offer, but I always refuse. Maybe insted of gas it may be easier for you to get him to by the bait and beer? On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 21:29:30 -0400, Dan Krueger wrote: Amazing. I have always paid for ALL of the gas, bait, food, beer, etc. when I could get away with it. The boat owner is paying for the boat, trailer, taxes, registration(s), interest, maintenance, and the other endless expenses. Seems like a hell of a deal to me! A buddy of mine often used to take me fishing up north in his "walleye" boat. His kicker crapped out so I picked up a new one for less than $1000. This is maybe 3-4 boat payments. He was shocked but he was the one really shelling out the big money. Now that I have two boats, I have never expected any money but my friends, to this point, seem to have followed the same philosophy as me. I never give it much thought since it all works out in the end. Dan Paul Dougherty wrote: Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
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In article et, "Rural
Knight" writes: If they or their friends offer gas money, I always turn them down, but it is noted and they always get another invite to go. I do the same, because I would have been going out anyway, but if they then say "What can I bring," I hit them up for some refreshments, cokes, ice, KFC, something like that. Frank Bell |
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Bchbound wrote in message t...
In article , says... Paul- It's your fault for letting it go this long, you have to speak up, the longer you drag it out the worst it gets, SPEAK UP! It's the same with boat duties, putting the bumpers/fenders out, loading-unloading the tackle and gear, cleaning up, covering the boat, trailer duty, you're the captain. SPEAK UP! Tom. Damn, if the guy has to drive 140 miles round trip to use his boat he should consider moving! I normally do not drive 140 mile round trip. I can drive 4 miles to boat and fish in The Schuylkill River. But, I like a change in scenery once in a while. Paul |
Boats, friends, cash and gas
Charles,
I concur with you, I paid to fill my buddies 30 foot Sea Ray at a tune of $150 dollars, and that paid for the trip down to Put-in Bay (from Anchor Bay MI), he paid for the fill up back. It gave me a new appreciation for what it costs to operate a 30 footer. Paul "Charles" wrote in message .. . Right on, Andrew. I always stop on the way HOME for fuel too. If you wait and do it on the way out, you're just postponing the fun and that's the whole point of this. I hate bringing my boat back without a full tank of gas. Also like yourself, I'll only invite a dead beat a couple of times. After they stand there about twice and let me pay for everything and do all the cleaning up, they don't get invited back. The ones that make the effort, at least offer to pay, get invited regularly. It's not just about boating, it's about courtesy. I almost said "common courtesy" there but it's not so common anymore. Charles "Andrew Krapcha" wrote in message ... I make it a point to keep my boat full of fuel. On the way home I stop and fill it again. Whoever was along for the ride gets to see that it is not cheap to operate (once they comment I will also be glad to list all the underlying cost IE: maint., oil...) they usually pitch in for fuel. If they don't, you don't have to feel obligated to invite them along again. Before I bought my own boat, I never went fishing with friends without forking over some cash. Unless you want to provide free entertainment, don't invite deadbeats. Personally, I feel it is **** poor to ride for free. Andy k. "Paul Dougherty" wrote in message om... Hello Group, I have a friend who I take out on my boat very often fishing. Grant it, it is a small boat 16' 6". But it still runs on fuel. He never has offered to pay for fuel or help to wash all the crude out of it from fishing. I did invite him to go so I do not feel right asking him. For example yesterday we went fishing at small lake. I drove my truck, towing my boat 140+ miles round trip, used 6 gallons of fuel on the lake. I know that is not a lot since some people here have boats that use 6 gallons just to start. But, he could offer. Another example last year we went to Canada for a "guys" week. We used 60-70 gallons of fuel running around a much bigger lake (Bobs Lake if anyone knows where that is) that week. That is not including the 70-80 gallons to get there and back. He did not offer cash for gas. But, he did pay his share of the house and food. My brother and his friend shared a boat that week and split everything 50/50 and made comments about sharing the cost in front of my friend. But, he was still clueless. My brother's father in-law has a boat at the Jersey shore. When he invites me down, even though he has more money than I will ever see, I offer and intend to pay part of the $100-150 fuel bill. But he always refuses. But I always offer. Does anyone have or has had this issue? What did you or are you going do? Paul |
Boats, friends, cash and gas
We are a group of four fishermen, all with boats. The largest boat in the fleet
is 18' so we usually bring two boats with two guys in each. We take turns furnishing the boat. Our deal is simple... the boat owner furnishes everything except the bait and we each bring our own snacks and drinks. Generally we meet at the ramp but if we are going farther afield we ride two to a vehicle. Nice arrangement. If one of us is dumb enough to run out of fuel or leave the GPS on all night the night before (me) we can manage to salvage the day. We also share the catch unless there is not enough to go around. Last time out the other boat got skunked but my boat caught about ten nice specks and a nice red. Who needs more thn two nice fish for supper? One of the guys had company coming for supper so he got the extras. It's a pretty sweet arrangement. Butch |
Boats, friends, cash and gas
hell, this is easy. my friend just bought a boat, i fish whenever i want, he
will not take any gas $$ from me. my solution, i mate for him and teach him how to use his new boat, his first real boat a 17' campion c/c w/85hp merc. we get along well with the deal. only time i fill it up is when i use it myself and on the way in.btw, this boat is spotless !!! |
Boats, friends, cash and gas
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