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JAXAshby July 11th 04 03:04 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine? It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.

JGS July 11th 04 03:31 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 11 Jul 2004 14:04:06 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine? It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.


I'm not following the thread this topic is being discussed in so
please excuse me if it has already been stated.

Just a wild guess, but here it goes. Large diesel engines require a
pony motor to start them. The pony motors are gasoline engines. The
reference to cleaning plugs may be for the pony motor.

As I said, only a guess. I know gasoline pony motors are used in
commercial mining equipment, bulldozers, large farming tractors,
commercial diesel powered vessels, etc.

A Google search for "pony motor diesel" will give you an idea of the
equipment I am referring too.

JAXAshby July 11th 04 04:04 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Thanks, JGS for the info. So let's ask the post whose handle is steve what he
meant.

steve, is that what you were trying to say? The Andrea Gail had a pony motor
which needed its plugs cleaned the night before sailing to ensure that the
diesel would start when the boat was at sea?

Gee, steve, I would have though a commercial fishing boat would not shut its
engine down while at sea. Are you telling us, steve, that commercial fishing
boats shut down their engine(s) often while at sea and that getting them
restarted can be problematic?

In that case, by all means clean the plugs. This is after you "tear down the
engine" and do a major overhaul after each trip, as you have prior stated.

Again, thanks to JGS for the infomation.

a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of

the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are

not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or function

of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine?

It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the

name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.


I'm not following the thread this topic is being discussed in so
please excuse me if it has already been stated.

Just a wild guess, but here it goes. Large diesel engines require a
pony motor to start them. The pony motors are gasoline engines. The
reference to cleaning plugs may be for the pony motor.

As I said, only a guess. I know gasoline pony motors are used in
commercial mining equipment, bulldozers, large farming tractors,
commercial diesel powered vessels, etc.

A Google search for "pony motor diesel" will give you an idea of the
equipment I am referring too.









Jim July 11th 04 05:55 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Jax, be careful your reaction does not meet the definition.

Internet troll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a
number of things, traditionally:

1. A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to
incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
2. A person who posts these.

The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an
insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions
is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.

A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll can vary widely
depending on the forum in which the exchange takes place. A person
unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A
troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with
inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.

JAXAshby wrote:
a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine? It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.



JAXAshby July 11th 04 06:46 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
jim jim, I was just taking steve's words at face value.

Yes, I am well aware that steve doesn't have much value at face, but I really
did just take him at face value.

So, that makes me a troll? taking steve at his word?

I hadn't thought of it that way.

From: Jim
Date: 7/11/2004 12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: .net

Jax, be careful your reaction does not meet the definition.

Internet troll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a
number of things, traditionally:

1. A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to
incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
2. A person who posts these.

The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an
insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions
is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.

A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll can vary widely
depending on the forum in which the exchange takes place. A person
unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A
troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with
inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.

JAXAshby wrote:
a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of

the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned

by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are

not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't

remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or

function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine?

It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the

name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.











Richard Rodgers July 12th 04 01:40 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Assume there was a gas engine.

Why would the crew clean the spark plugs before sailing?

The only time I clean spark plugs is if they are fouled and then ony
until I can get a set of new plugs.

At best the line was added for dramatic effect.

And the statement is still true that Jax assumed spark plug when the
author wrote plugs. That would be the conclusion most attained. That
does not mean thats the only plug it could be. Also what powered the
ice machine? Anyone know?


On 11 Jul 2004 17:46:02 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jim jim, I was just taking steve's words at face value.

Yes, I am well aware that steve doesn't have much value at face, but I really
did just take him at face value.

So, that makes me a troll? taking steve at his word?

I hadn't thought of it that way.

From: Jim

Date: 7/11/2004 12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: .net

Jax, be careful your reaction does not meet the definition.

Internet troll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a
number of things, traditionally:

1. A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to
incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
2. A person who posts these.

The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an
insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions
is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.

A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll can vary widely
depending on the forum in which the exchange takes place. A person
unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A
troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with
inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.

JAXAshby wrote:
a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of

the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned

by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are

not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't

remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or

function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine?

It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the

name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.











Shen44 July 12th 04 03:05 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 

And the statement is still true that Jax assumed spark plug when the
author wrote plugs. That would be the conclusion most attained. That
does not mean thats the only plug it could be. Also what powered the
ice machine? Anyone know?


Don't know. Would bet any refrigeration/ice making capability would be
electrical from the generator.
Many smaller fishing boats load a good amount of ice prior to sailing.
BTW, don't know of any present day diesel setups on fishing boats, using a
Donkey engine to start the main (which is not to say some don't exist) Main
starting source is battery or air.

Shen

JAXAshby July 12th 04 03:38 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Assume there was a gas engine.

Why would the crew clean the spark plugs before sailing?

The only time I clean spark plugs is if they are fouled and then ony
until I can get a set of new plugs.

At best the line was added for dramatic effect.


at only.


And the statement is still true that Jax assumed spark plug when the
author wrote plugs.


yup.

That would be the conclusion most attained. That
does not mean thats the only plug it could be. Also what powered the
ice machine? Anyone know?


On 11 Jul 2004 17:46:02 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jim jim, I was just taking steve's words at face value.

Yes, I am well aware that steve doesn't have much value at face, but I

really
did just take him at face value.

So, that makes me a troll? taking steve at his word?

I hadn't thought of it that way.

From: Jim

Date: 7/11/2004 12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: .net

Jax, be careful your reaction does not meet the definition.

Internet troll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a
number of things, traditionally:

1. A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to
incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
2. A person who posts these.

The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an
insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions
is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.

A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll can vary widely
depending on the forum in which the exchange takes place. A person
unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A
troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with
inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.

JAXAshby wrote:
a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function

of
the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned
by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are
not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after

each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't
remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or
function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the

engine?
It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the
name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.


















JAXAshby July 12th 04 03:39 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
what powered the
ice machine? Anyone know?


Don't know.


of course you don't, shen.

JAXAshby July 12th 04 03:41 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Jax assumed spark plug when the
author wrote plugs.


actually, not. JAX assumed the author was going for dramatic impact and
stepped wayt beyond his knowlege base.

sorta like shen, but with more native intelligence.

Jim July 12th 04 05:58 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors/ let's look at "Trolling"
 
Interesting subject.

It seems that there is a lot of accusations in this group, that off
topic posts are... posted by "trolls". But the definition that they
refer to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll) says:
"A post thought to be intended to incite controversy or conflict or
cause annoyance or offense"

Off topic, on topic, NO DIFFERENCE. The key point is "intended to cause
conflict, or annoyance".

Another key point is:
"An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions is
sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict."

And finally:
"A person unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express
indignation. A troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the
stakes with inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser."

So, Jax REACTION to being accused of being a troll is important.

So, that makes me a troll? taking steve at his word? I hadn't

thought of it that way.

I think Jax answered in a non troll fashion. Congratualtions, you are
not a troll, just a guy with controversial opinions. Unless you reply
with "inflamatory remarks".

Discussion, please
Jim


JAXAshby wrote:

jim jim, I was just taking steve's words at face value.

Yes, I am well aware that steve doesn't have much value at face, but I really
did just take him at face value.

So, that makes me a troll? taking steve at his word?

I hadn't thought of it that way.


From: Jim
Date: 7/11/2004 12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: .net

Jax, be careful your reaction does not meet the definition.

Internet troll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

On the Internet, the term troll is a slang term used to describe a
number of things, traditionally:

1. A post (on a newsgroup, or other forum) thought to be intended to
incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or offense.
2. A person who posts these.

The term troll has negative connotations, and is often applied as an
insult. An individual posting honestly-held but controversial opinions
is sometimes mis-labeled as a troll. By contrast, a troll's primary
incentive is generally considered to be the incitement of conflict.

A troll's reactions to being identified as a troll can vary widely
depending on the forum in which the exchange takes place. A person
unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and express indignation. A
troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with
inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser.

JAXAshby wrote:

a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of


the

plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned


by

the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are


not

cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't


remember

what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or


function of

these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine?


It

seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the


name/function

of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.












JAXAshby July 12th 04 10:47 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors/ let's look at "Trolling"
 
Congratualtions, you are
not a troll, just a guy with controversial opinions.


yeah, truly controversial. I like truth, with no time for deliberate
falsehoods.

Steven Shelikoff July 12th 04 03:09 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 11 Jul 2004 14:04:06 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

a poster by the handle of steve is struggling with the name and function of the
plugs on engines used on commercial fishing boats that need to be cleaned by
the crew the night be sailing. he knows they exist and he knows they are not
cleaned as part of the normal engine tear down and rebuild done after each
trip. he knows the crew does in fact clean them, but he just can't remember
what they are called, nor what their function is.

can someone help steve out here? Does someone know the name and/or function of
these required-to-be-cleaned-the-night-before-sailing plugs on the engine? It
seems a couple of other people also have a blank spot as to the name/function
of these plugs and also would like to know.

Thanks in advance.


Injectors are plugs that can be cleaned. Glow plugs are plugs that can
be cleaned. Freeze plugs are plugs that can be cleaned. Electrical
plugs are plugs that can be cleaned. All 4 exist on a diesel engine and
all 4 can be cleaned during an overhaul, the kind of overhaul an engine
man might do before leaving on a several week several thousand mile
fishing trip.

Hope that cleared up some of your confusion, although probably not. The
fog in your head is pretty thick. Glad I could help.

Steve

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:52 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Injectors are plugs that can be cleaned.

fuel injectors on a diesel are nowhere on the planet refered to as "plugs"

Glow plugs are plugs that can
be cleaned.


but why?

Freeze plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


No, they can't. Besides, to what purpose?

Electrical
plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


the are no electrical plugs on the engine of commercial seagoing vessel.

All 4 exist on a diesel engine and
all 4 can be cleaned during an overhaul, the kind of overhaul an engine
man might do before leaving on a several week several thousand mile
fishing trip.


Huh? the diesel engine on a commercial fishing vessel is torn down the night
before sailing to effect a major overhaul? And is torn down and overhauled by
drunken, nervous crew?

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing down"
and engine.


Hope that cleared up some of your confusion, although probably not. The
fog in your head is pretty thick. Glad I could help.

Steve









Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 08:49 AM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 00:52:33 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Injectors are plugs that can be cleaned.


fuel injectors on a diesel are nowhere on the planet refered to as "plugs"


And yet, they are plugs. And could easily have been confused for plugs
by the author.


Glow plugs are plugs that can
be cleaned.


but why?


Why not?

Freeze plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


No, they can't. Besides, to what purpose?


Yes they can. To keep a nice clean engine. A grease caked engine can
hide the early warning signs of some problems.

Electrical
plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


the are no electrical plugs on the engine of commercial seagoing vessel.


Depends on the engine. I'll bet you're wrong.

All 4 exist on a diesel engine and
all 4 can be cleaned during an overhaul, the kind of overhaul an engine
man might do before leaving on a several week several thousand mile
fishing trip.


Huh? the diesel engine on a commercial fishing vessel is torn down the night
before sailing to effect a major overhaul? And is torn down and overhauled by
drunken, nervous crew?


Those are your words, not mine. I said that often (not always) the
engineer will do a teardown while in port between extended trips at sea
to check the engine. It might not need a major overhaul. That doesn't
mean it won't be checked.

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing down"
and engine.


It's more obvious that you don't. Just pulling the heads and dropping
the pan can be called a "teardown" and those things are relatively easy
to do. Not more than a days work. Not that they'll do that every time.
It all depends on where they are in the service cycle. But keeping
their single engine, their sole source of livelyhood and safety, working
in top shape is what the engineer is paid to do.

Steve

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:15 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
fuel injectors on a diesel are nowhere on the planet refered to as "plugs"

And yet, they are plugs. And could easily have been confused for plugs
by the author.


schlackoff, any author -- or ng poster by the handle of "steve" -- who confuses
fuel injectors with spark plugs can mistake a diesel for a gas engine.

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:16 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Glow plugs are plugs that can
be cleaned.


but why?


Why not?


schlackoff, they can be soaked in pineapple juice, too, but why? what would be
the purpose?

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:17 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Huh? schlackoff, do you have any idea waht a freeze plug is, or what its
purpose is?



Freeze plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


No, they can't. Besides, to what purpose?


Yes they can. To keep a nice clean engine. A grease caked engine can
hide the early warning signs of some problems.



JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:19 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Electrical
plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.


the are no electrical plugs on the engine of commercial seagoing vessel.


Depends on the engine. I'll bet you're wrong.


okay, schlackoff, which engine are you willing to bet on?

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:21 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing down"
an engine.


Huh? the diesel engine on a commercial fishing vessel is torn down the

night
before sailing to effect a major overhaul? And is torn down and overhauled

by
drunken, nervous crew?


Those are your words, not mine. I said that often (not always) the
engineer will do a teardown while in port between extended trips at sea
to check the engine. It might not need a major overhaul. That doesn't
mean it won't be checked.

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing

down"
and engine.




JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:23 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
schlackoff, you do not have a clew on anything to do with engines.

Just pulling the heads and dropping
the pan can be called a "teardown" and those things are relatively easy
to do. Not more than a days work. Not that they'll do that every time.
It all depends on where they are in the service cycle. But keeping
their single engine, their sole source of livelyhood and safety, working
in top shape is what the engineer is paid to do.

Steve









Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:15:34 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

fuel injectors on a diesel are nowhere on the planet refered to as "plugs"


And yet, they are plugs. And could easily have been confused for plugs
by the author.


schlackoff, any author -- or ng poster by the handle of "steve" -- who confuses
fuel injectors with spark plugs can mistake a diesel for a gas engine.


You mean like you did?

Steve

Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:16:31 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Glow plugs are plugs that can
be cleaned.

but why?


Why not?


schlackoff, they can be soaked in pineapple juice, too, but why? what would be
the purpose?


To clean them. But then again, you're the one saying it's impossible to
do.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:17:57 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Huh? schlackoff, do you have any idea waht a freeze plug is, or what its
purpose is?


Of course. And the fact that you think they're impossible to clean
proves you don't.

Steve


Freeze plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.

No, they can't. Besides, to what purpose?


Yes they can. To keep a nice clean engine. A grease caked engine can
hide the early warning signs of some problems.




Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:19:41 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Electrical
plugs are plugs that can be cleaned.

the are no electrical plugs on the engine of commercial seagoing vessel.


Depends on the engine. I'll bet you're wrong.


okay, schlackoff, which engine are you willing to bet on?


Perkins 4-108. There are plenty of them in commercial seagoing vessels
and they have electrical plugs that can be cleaned.

You lose, idiot.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:21:56 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing down"
an engine.


Just because you made a mistake with Jungers words doesn't mean you know
anything at all about what it takes to tear down an engine.

Steve


Huh? the diesel engine on a commercial fishing vessel is torn down the

night
before sailing to effect a major overhaul? And is torn down and overhauled

by
drunken, nervous crew?


Those are your words, not mine. I said that often (not always) the
engineer will do a teardown while in port between extended trips at sea
to check the engine. It might not need a major overhaul. That doesn't
mean it won't be checked.

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing

down"
and engine.





Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 01:59 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
On 13 Jul 2004 12:23:13 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you do not have a clew on anything to do with engines.


And yet you're the one who thinks it's impossible to clean an injector.
And you're the one who thinks commercial fishing boat crews just go to
sea for weeks at a time without servicing their engines.

Joxie, you are too stupid for words.

Steve

Just pulling the heads and dropping
the pan can be called a "teardown" and those things are relatively easy
to do. Not more than a days work. Not that they'll do that every time.
It all depends on where they are in the service cycle. But keeping
their single engine, their sole source of livelyhood and safety, working
in top shape is what the engineer is paid to do.

Steve










JAXAshby July 13th 04 02:38 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
Huh? schlackoff, do you have any idea waht a freeze plug is, or what its
purpose is?


Of course. And the fact that you think they're impossible to clean
proves you don't.


schlackoff, you can clean the bottom of soup cans discarded in the garbage,
too, but that doesn't mean anyone does it.

ever meet nervous, drunken commercial fishing boat crew, schlackoff, who
cleaned the freeze plugs on an engine the night before sailing?



Steve




JAXAshby July 13th 04 02:40 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
oh? what plugs are that, schlackoff, that are need to be cleaned on a 4-108
used by a long-liner fishing boat? And cleaned the night before sailing by the
nervous, drunken crew?

okay, schlackoff, which engine are you willing to bet on?


Perkins 4-108. There are plenty of them in commercial seagoing vessels
and they have electrical plugs that can be cleaned.

You lose, idiot.

Steve









JAXAshby July 13th 04 02:42 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
why would you clean glow plugs, schlackoff, at all, let alone the night before
sailing on a commercial fishing boat by the nervous, drunken crew?

schlackoff, they can be soaked in pineapple juice, too, but why? what would

be
the purpose?


To clean them. But then again, you're the one saying it's impossible to
do.

Steve









JAXAshby July 13th 04 02:44 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
schlackoff, you do not have a clew on anything to do with engines.

And yet you're the one who thinks it's impossible to clean an injector.


by nervouse, drunken crew the night before sailing below decks in a commercial
fishing boat?

And you're the one who thinks commercial fishing boat crews just go to
sea for weeks at a time without servicing their engines.


you mean the proper procedure is to use nervous, drunken crew to do required
maintenance work the night before sailing?


Joxie, you are too stupid for words.

Steve

Just pulling the heads and dropping
the pan can be called a "teardown" and those things are relatively easy
to do. Not more than a days work. Not that they'll do that every time.
It all depends on where they are in the service cycle. But keeping
their single engine, their sole source of livelyhood and safety, working
in top shape is what the engineer is paid to do.

Steve


















JAXAshby July 13th 04 02:47 PM

Rocket science and ng sailors
 
schlackoff, I was tearing down engines professionally before junger was born.

you be stew ped, stevie, not to have seen the irony immediately from the
get-go. now you are reduced to claiming that nervous, drunken crew on
longliner fishing boat do required freeze plug cleaning maintenance the night
before sailing.

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing

down"
an engine.


Just because you made a mistake with Jungers words doesn't mean you know
anything at all about what it takes to tear down an engine.

Steve


Huh? the diesel engine on a commercial fishing vessel is torn down the
night
before sailing to effect a major overhaul? And is torn down and

overhauled
by
drunken, nervous crew?

Those are your words, not mine. I said that often (not always) the
engineer will do a teardown while in port between extended trips at sea
to check the engine. It might not need a major overhaul. That doesn't
mean it won't be checked.

schlackoff, it is obvious you have no idea what is involved in "tearing
down"
and engine.













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