Doug,

I think you missed the point of my posts, so often rumors and incorrect info
is transmitted as fact on the internet. Since Chuck is someone who prides
himself on using logic not emotion in his debates, I am sure he would want
to use accurate data, not often repeated incorrect data.

According to the Times of India, they are on the verge of increasing the
minimum wage from their current rate
of Rs 64.72/hr (or approx. $1.50/hr). According to those in the Telephone
Service Industry promoting outsourcing of jobs, the average wage for
telephone service center operators is $2 to $3/hr which equals $4160 - $6240
annual income, well above the average income in the US, when comparing the
purchasing power of their income ( $2900 in India is equal to the average
income in the US.)

So if you want your argument to carry weight it is best to use accurate
info, instead of repeating rumors and incorrect data.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Gould,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I was hoping you would have followed up
on
some of the links yourself to see that they really do not pay call
center
employees $1 / hr.

Chuck has a job. You want a secretary? Hire one.

So if you want your argument to carry weight it is best to use accurate
info, instead of repeating rumors and incorrect data.

"Accurate data" being anything that agrees with your assertion and "rumors and
incorrect data" anything that does not?

Here's something so outdated it is certain to be incorrect. It's from July
2004:


http://www.smihq.org/public/publicat..._outsource.pdf


Check the second paragraph. "Wages for telephone operators in India are often
less than $1 an hour."

The article also lists a number of legislative steps currently under
consideration to address the outsourcing issue.

Makes interesting reading.

Gould,
The minimum wage in Jharkhandndia is Rs 64.72 /hr. and in Delia are 70
Rs.which is more in the $1.50 to $1.75 range. When people quote an average
rate of $1/hr. they are looking at the minimum wage for the undeveloped
areas of India. According to the web sites encouraging outsourcing the jobs
to India, they state one of the benefits of doing so is that the entry level
India techies earn in the $4000 to $7000 range.

If you want to believe that the salary of a trained IT employee is below the
minimum wage, that is ok with me. The key is if you don't want more jobs to
leave the US, the US companies have to do everything they can to be
competitive with companies from the other industrialized countries, who are
outsourcing their telemarketing jobs.

Today, we are looking at a world economy and no one will be able to close
Pandora's box, no matter how much you and I might object to it any more than
we are not going back to the time when products were individually crafted
instead of being mass produced and 85% of the population lived on family
farms




"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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So if you want your argument to carry weight it is best to use accurate
info, instead of repeating rumors and incorrect data.

"Accurate data" being anything that agrees with your assertion and "rumors
and
incorrect data" anything that does not?

Here's something so outdated it is certain to be incorrect. It's from July
2004:



http://www.smihq.org/public/publicat..._outsource.pdf


Check the second paragraph. "Wages for telephone operators in India are
often
less than $1 an hour."

The article also lists a number of legislative steps currently under
consideration to address the outsourcing issue.

Makes interesting reading.

Gould,
The minimum wage in Jharkhandndia is Rs 64.72 /hr. and in Delia are 70
Rs.which is more in the $1.50 to $1.75 range. When people quote an average
rate of $1/hr. they are looking at the minimum wage for the undeveloped
areas of India. According to the web sites encouraging outsourcing the jobs
to India, they state one of the benefits of doing so is that the entry level
India techies earn in the $4000 to $7000 range.


Don't confuse wages paid to computer programmers with those paid to boiler room
phone workers.

I would agree with your $4000 plus per year figure for computer programmers.
We have seen a number of programming jobs from the PNW disappear to India, and
in all the local stories and discussions of the pros and cons the salary figure
of $100 per week has been commonly associated with Indian computer programmers.

Guess I'm gettin old. I can clearly remember when $100 a week was a decent
income in the US. Now it takes $2500 a week for most families to have a middle
income lifestyle. No wonder jobs are packing off to India.