Ratchet Tie Downs
 

We are considering using straps that have a ratchet
in them to help hold our boat onto the trailer. This
boat does not have eye-hooks in the back and we
don't want to install any. I'm quite certain the boat
would stay down just fine on it's own, but a little
extra protection can't hurt.

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap. I'm just looking for comments about these
in terms of favorite brands, brands or types that
have given you trouble, etc.

Thanks,
Gary

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap

You get what you pay for. I use load binders on my pontoon boat. They are like
the ones truckers use. I think I got them at Northern. They have a flat metal
"hook" that fits in the edge of the trailer "C" channel. Look at flatbed trucks
with the 1/4"x3" rail around the bed and you will see these in action.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

Wally world did have them with stainless ratchets. They are much better than
the others. I use a pair of them on the back of my boat but they did have
the longer ones that go clear across.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

We are considering using straps that have a ratchet
in them to help hold our boat onto the trailer. This
boat does not have eye-hooks in the back and we
don't want to install any. I'm quite certain the boat
would stay down just fine on it's own, but a little
extra protection can't hurt.

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap. I'm just looking for comments about these
in terms of favorite brands, brands or types that
have given you trouble, etc.

Thanks,
Gary

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

..

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap. I'm just looking for comments about these
in terms of favorite brands, brands or types that
have given you trouble, etc.


I use a pair of tie downs on my trailer that are really simple. They are
NOT ratchet, but they adjust really easy. Simple hook on one end, and then
a cam lock on the other. Attach the straps, pull the excess through the cam
buckle, then flip the cam lever over. It tightens and locks the straps in
one easy motion. Hooks are large and the straps are strong.

Rod

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

The tie downs are for the abnormal situation. Yes, gravity is going to keep
your boat on the trailer. Until you have to make a sharp turn to avoid an
accident or get in an accident.

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

We are considering using straps that have a ratchet
in them to help hold our boat onto the trailer. This
boat does not have eye-hooks in the back and we
don't want to install any. I'm quite certain the boat
would stay down just fine on it's own, but a little
extra protection can't hurt.

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap. I'm just looking for comments about these
in terms of favorite brands, brands or types that
have given you trouble, etc.

Thanks,
Gary

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

Depends on the weight of the boat. Mine weighs 600 lbs fully loaded. Going
over the slightest bumps will cause the boat to shift slightly. Not good.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
ink.net...
The tie downs are for the abnormal situation. Yes, gravity is going to
keep
your boat on the trailer. Until you have to make a sharp turn to avoid an
accident or get in an accident.

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

We are considering using straps that have a ratchet
in them to help hold our boat onto the trailer. This
boat does not have eye-hooks in the back and we
don't want to install any. I'm quite certain the boat
would stay down just fine on it's own, but a little
extra protection can't hurt.

Anyway, some of the mechanisims on these seem
cheap. I'm just looking for comments about these
in terms of favorite brands, brands or types that
have given you trouble, etc.

Thanks,
Gary

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

The tie downs are for the abnormal situation. Yes, gravity is going to keep
your boat on the trailer. Until you have to make a sharp turn to avoid an
accident or get in an accident.

I saw my buddy's 23' Rabalo slide about 300' down US 41 using that logic.
Fortunately it tilted left a little and came to a stop on the grass before it
came off "plane". Virtually all of the road rash was along the keel.
We all got a lesson on cheap tie downs and tongue weight that day.
Two quick trailer whips was all ot took to launch that boat onto the pavement,
straightening out a 3/8" hook and shearing off the winch arm.

Kudos again to the Lee Couny Sheriff's department who helped us get it back on
the trailer (with 2 body builder type deputies) and sent us off with a verbal
warning.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

Depends on the weight of the boat. Mine weighs 600 lbs fully loaded

It really doesn't make much difference. A heavier boat simply puts heavier
"Newton" forces against the tie down when you turn or hit a bump..

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

"Greg" wrote in message
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Depends on the weight of the boat. Mine weighs 600 lbs fully loaded

It really doesn't make much difference. A heavier boat simply puts heavier
"Newton" forces against the tie down when you turn or hit a bump..

scratching head....remembering fragmented bits of high school physics More
mass, more tendency to STAY in motion. I say tie down the transom.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

A heavier boat simply puts heavier
"Newton" forces against the tie down when you turn or hit a bump..

scratching head....remembering fragmented bits of high school physics More
mass, more tendency to STAY in motion. I say tie down the transom.


Aren't we saying the same thing? A heavy boat presents greater forces against
the strap. Gravity will not keep it on the trailer if it starts bouncing or
swaying.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

"Greg" wrote in message
...
A heavier boat simply puts heavier
"Newton" forces against the tie down when you turn or hit a bump..

scratching head....remembering fragmented bits of high school physics
More
mass, more tendency to STAY in motion. I say tie down the transom.


Aren't we saying the same thing? A heavy boat presents greater forces
against
the strap. Gravity will not keep it on the trailer if it starts bouncing
or
swaying.

Maybe, but only on Thursdays. :-)

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

In addition to the apparently missing transom straps,
where was the safety chain backing up the winch strap.

--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Greg" wrote in message ...
The tie downs are for the abnormal situation. Yes, gravity is going to keep
your boat on the trailer. Until you have to make a sharp turn to avoid an
accident or get in an accident.

I saw my buddy's 23' Rabalo slide about 300' down US 41 using that logic.
Fortunately it tilted left a little and came to a stop on the grass before it
came off "plane". Virtually all of the road rash was along the keel.
We all got a lesson on cheap tie downs and tongue weight that day.
Two quick trailer whips was all ot took to launch that boat onto the pavement,
straightening out a 3/8" hook and shearing off the winch arm.

Kudos again to the Lee Couny Sheriff's department who helped us get it back on
the trailer (with 2 body builder type deputies) and sent us off with a verbal
warning.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

In addition to the apparently missing transom straps,
where was the safety chain backing up the winch strap.

When this thing came off the trailer it ripped the winch bracket off, tearing
the weld at the post. The winch went with the boat, as did the "safety" chain.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

On 22 Jun 2004 03:16:44 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

When this thing came off the trailer it ripped the winch bracket off, tearing
the weld at the post. The winch went with the boat, as did the "safety" chain.

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Exciting stuff, sounds like it happened right up the road from me.
Glad I wasn't zipping down to CC from Tuckers Grade at the time.

You might have been lucky the boat whipped off instead of flipping the
tow vehicle.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

Exciting stuff, sounds like it happened right up the road from me.
Glad I wasn't zipping down to CC from Tuckers Grade at the time.


This was in Estero, about a mile from my house. The last thing he said was "I
will lead because this thing isn't trailing right and I want to go slow". I was
hanging back trying to slow him down. At about 55 I saw the port side, then the
starbord side, then lots of dust and brake lights.

Ratchet Tie Downs
 

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

We are considering using straps that have a ratchet
in them to help hold our boat onto the trailer. This
boat does not have eye-hooks in the back and we
don't want to install any. I'm quite certain the boat
would stay down just fine on it's own, but a little
extra protection can't hurt.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
ink.net...
The tie downs are for the abnormal situation. Yes, gravity is going to
keep
your boat on the trailer. Until you have to make a sharp turn to avoid an
accident or get in an accident.


Also for normal situations, maybe? I would think that a rigid cradle for
the hull, with bounces and vibrations absorbed by the trailer springs and
tires is much better for the boat than the hull vibrating, bouncing and /or
flexing on and off the rollers or bunks as you go down the road, even if
these movements are very small or even unnoticable.

As for the quality of straps and type of tightening mechanism - as someone
pointed out, there's many options for inexpensive high quality transom and
bow tie down straps with very strong, wide web straps, very strong S hooks,
and the locking, flip lever type of tightener (as opposed to ratchet).
These are much neater and easier to use than ratchet straps. Super deluxe
transom straps cost about $30 a pair, $20 for standard grade. Similar bow
tie downs are around $10.

Search Cabelas, Overtons, West Marine, etc. etc. for trailer tie-downs
(transom and bow).

For example:

http://tinyurl.com/ywvat