Yes, a synthetic will reduce smoke.

Even switching to the Pennzoil synthetic blend (9.99 at Wally World) will
reduce smoke a bit.

-W

"Camilo" wrote in message
...
"Tom Treadway" wrote in message
om...
I have a 15hp 2-cycle engine, and I currently use Quicksilver Premium
oil.
I've heard rumor that there is an oil that produces less smoke. Does
anyone
have any experience with this?

Thanks,
TT

I've heard that synthetic 2 stroke oil will reduce smoke. I haven't tried
it yet, though.

This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Yes, a synthetic will reduce smoke.

Even switching to the Pennzoil synthetic blend (9.99 at Wally World) will
reduce smoke a bit.

-W

"Camilo" wrote in message
...
"Tom Treadway" wrote in message
om...
I have a 15hp 2-cycle engine, and I currently use Quicksilver Premium
oil.
I've heard rumor that there is an oil that produces less smoke. Does
anyone
have any experience with this?

Thanks,
TT

I've heard that synthetic 2 stroke oil will reduce smoke. I haven't
tried
it yet, though.

"Tom Treadway" wrote in message
...
This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic
oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT

It needs to be two cycle oil. Check Walmart for Pennzoil - I saw they had
Penn. full synthetic two cycle oil for about $19 a gallon. The synthetic
blend is quite a bit less.




"Clams Canino" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Yes, a synthetic will reduce smoke.

Even switching to the Pennzoil synthetic blend (9.99 at Wally World)
will
reduce smoke a bit.

-W

"Camilo" wrote in message
...
"Tom Treadway" wrote in message
om...
I have a 15hp 2-cycle engine, and I currently use Quicksilver
Premium
oil.
I've heard rumor that there is an oil that produces less smoke.
Does
anyone
have any experience with this?

Thanks,
TT

I've heard that synthetic 2 stroke oil will reduce smoke. I haven't
tried
it yet, though.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:13:36 GMT, "Tom Treadway"
wrote:

This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT

I remember as a kid many years ago!!!! ... if I ran out of 2 stroke
oil for my 50 c.c. motorcycle, I'd swipe some of my Dad's lawn mower
oil. Apart from a plug fouling up sooner than it should, I don't
remember any ill effects. And, on a 50 c.c., any lack of performance
is immediately obvious.

I have also run weed whackers on marine grade 2 stroke oil for years
with no ill effects. My understanding is that air cooled engines run
way hotter than water cooled outboards, hence this oil is unsuitabe.
Granted, I don't run machinary like I stole it,

Apart from bearings, reed valves & compression on a 2 stroke, the
crank seals are just as important because the crank case is
pressurised on the down stroke. Running the wrong oil could degrade
these seals, or fry them. It's no fun to completely split a motor
because a $5 seal is cooked.

One more factor. The exhaust system/porting on a 2 stroke is critical
to performance and "economy". The wrong oil could well clog up both.
On the bright side, your compression ratio will increase (adjust the
timing).

So why do I still run the wrong oil in my weed whacker .... because it
very seldom runs above idle, and it's one less potential fire hazard
to worry about (that extra can of gas). Besides, if it didn't like the
way I was treating it, it would have quit 11 years ago.

Safe Boating.

Derek wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:13:36 GMT, "Tom Treadway"
wrote:


This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT


I remember as a kid many years ago!!!! ... if I ran out of 2 stroke
oil for my 50 c.c. motorcycle, I'd swipe some of my Dad's lawn mower
oil. Apart from a plug fouling up sooner than it should, I don't
remember any ill effects. And, on a 50 c.c., any lack of performance
is immediately obvious.

I have also run weed whackers on marine grade 2 stroke oil for years
with no ill effects. My understanding is that air cooled engines run
way hotter than water cooled outboards, hence this oil is unsuitabe.
Granted, I don't run machinary like I stole it,

Apart from bearings, reed valves & compression on a 2 stroke, the
crank seals are just as important because the crank case is
pressurised on the down stroke. Running the wrong oil could degrade
these seals, or fry them. It's no fun to completely split a motor
because a $5 seal is cooked.

One more factor. The exhaust system/porting on a 2 stroke is critical
to performance and "economy". The wrong oil could well clog up both.
On the bright side, your compression ratio will increase (adjust the
timing).

So why do I still run the wrong oil in my weed whacker .... because it
very seldom runs above idle, and it's one less potential fire hazard
to worry about (that extra can of gas). Besides, if it didn't like the
way I was treating it, it would have quit 11 years ago.

Safe Boating.

As far as I'm aware of, most string trimmers, saws, blowers, etc.
require TCW-3 oil. I've never used anything else either... what oil are
you talking about? The pre-diluted brand-specific (Homelite, Poulan,
etc) tiny little doses?

I run all my 2 stroke lawn/garden equipment on TCW-3 mixed at 32:1 for
longevity... had to free up the rings on my Homelite trimmer once in 12
years, it still runs as new...

Rob

Just a side note..... in an "emergency" (you define emergency) a straight
30wt non-detergent motor oil at twice the mix (25/1) will do the job. Shake
well.

-W




"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Derek wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:13:36 GMT, "Tom Treadway"
wrote:


This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic
oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT


I remember as a kid many years ago!!!! ... if I ran out of 2 stroke
oil for my 50 c.c. motorcycle, I'd swipe some of my Dad's lawn mower
oil. Apart from a plug fouling up sooner than it should, I don't
remember any ill effects. And, on a 50 c.c., any lack of performance
is immediately obvious.

I have also run weed whackers on marine grade 2 stroke oil for years
with no ill effects. My understanding is that air cooled engines run
way hotter than water cooled outboards, hence this oil is unsuitabe.
Granted, I don't run machinary like I stole it,

Apart from bearings, reed valves & compression on a 2 stroke, the
crank seals are just as important because the crank case is
pressurised on the down stroke. Running the wrong oil could degrade
these seals, or fry them. It's no fun to completely split a motor
because a $5 seal is cooked.

One more factor. The exhaust system/porting on a 2 stroke is critical
to performance and "economy". The wrong oil could well clog up both.
On the bright side, your compression ratio will increase (adjust the
timing).

So why do I still run the wrong oil in my weed whacker .... because it
very seldom runs above idle, and it's one less potential fire hazard
to worry about (that extra can of gas). Besides, if it didn't like the
way I was treating it, it would have quit 11 years ago.

Safe Boating.

As far as I'm aware of, most string trimmers, saws, blowers, etc.
require TCW-3 oil. I've never used anything else either... what oil are
you talking about? The pre-diluted brand-specific (Homelite, Poulan,
etc) tiny little doses?

I run all my 2 stroke lawn/garden equipment on TCW-3 mixed at 32:1 for
longevity... had to free up the rings on my Homelite trimmer once in 12
years, it still runs as new...

Rob

Any two stroke run at 50/1 TCW-3 has a very good chance of "OK".

More so if an "engine cleaner" is used as directed once a year.

-W

"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Derek wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:13:36 GMT, "Tom Treadway"
wrote:


This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic
oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT


I remember as a kid many years ago!!!! ... if I ran out of 2 stroke
oil for my 50 c.c. motorcycle, I'd swipe some of my Dad's lawn mower
oil. Apart from a plug fouling up sooner than it should, I don't
remember any ill effects. And, on a 50 c.c., any lack of performance
is immediately obvious.

I have also run weed whackers on marine grade 2 stroke oil for years
with no ill effects. My understanding is that air cooled engines run
way hotter than water cooled outboards, hence this oil is unsuitabe.
Granted, I don't run machinary like I stole it,

Apart from bearings, reed valves & compression on a 2 stroke, the
crank seals are just as important because the crank case is
pressurised on the down stroke. Running the wrong oil could degrade
these seals, or fry them. It's no fun to completely split a motor
because a $5 seal is cooked.

One more factor. The exhaust system/porting on a 2 stroke is critical
to performance and "economy". The wrong oil could well clog up both.
On the bright side, your compression ratio will increase (adjust the
timing).

So why do I still run the wrong oil in my weed whacker .... because it
very seldom runs above idle, and it's one less potential fire hazard
to worry about (that extra can of gas). Besides, if it didn't like the
way I was treating it, it would have quit 11 years ago.

Safe Boating.

As far as I'm aware of, most string trimmers, saws, blowers, etc.
require TCW-3 oil. I've never used anything else either... what oil are
you talking about? The pre-diluted brand-specific (Homelite, Poulan,
etc) tiny little doses?

I run all my 2 stroke lawn/garden equipment on TCW-3 mixed at 32:1 for
longevity... had to free up the rings on my Homelite trimmer once in 12
years, it still runs as new...

Rob

An "engine cleaner"? OK, I'll bite. What the heck is that?

TT


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Any two stroke run at 50/1 TCW-3 has a very good chance of "OK".

More so if an "engine cleaner" is used as directed once a year.

-W

Mercury makes some called Quicksilver Power Tune Engine Cleaner. It work
great if you follow the directions. I'm sure there are some other brands out
there too.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Tom Treadway" wrote in message
. com...
An "engine cleaner"? OK, I'll bite. What the heck is that?

TT


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Any two stroke run at 50/1 TCW-3 has a very good chance of "OK".

More so if an "engine cleaner" is used as directed once a year.

-W

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:58:22 -0400, trainfan1
wrote:

Derek wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:13:36 GMT, "Tom Treadway"
wrote:


This is a potentially stupid question, but what the heck...

Is ANY oil appropriate for use with a 2-cycle? Can I get any synthetic oil,
or does it have to me made especially for 2-cycles?

Thanks,
TT


I remember as a kid many years ago!!!! ... if I ran out of 2 stroke
oil for my 50 c.c. motorcycle, I'd swipe some of my Dad's lawn mower
oil. Apart from a plug fouling up sooner than it should, I don't
remember any ill effects. And, on a 50 c.c., any lack of performance
is immediately obvious.

I have also run weed whackers on marine grade 2 stroke oil for years
with no ill effects. My understanding is that air cooled engines run
way hotter than water cooled outboards, hence this oil is unsuitabe.
Granted, I don't run machinary like I stole it,

Apart from bearings, reed valves & compression on a 2 stroke, the
crank seals are just as important because the crank case is
pressurised on the down stroke. Running the wrong oil could degrade
these seals, or fry them. It's no fun to completely split a motor
because a $5 seal is cooked.

One more factor. The exhaust system/porting on a 2 stroke is critical
to performance and "economy". The wrong oil could well clog up both.
On the bright side, your compression ratio will increase (adjust the
timing).

So why do I still run the wrong oil in my weed whacker .... because it
very seldom runs above idle, and it's one less potential fire hazard
to worry about (that extra can of gas). Besides, if it didn't like the
way I was treating it, it would have quit 11 years ago.

Safe Boating.

As far as I'm aware of, most string trimmers, saws, blowers, etc.
require TCW-3 oil. I've never used anything else either... what oil are
you talking about? The pre-diluted brand-specific (Homelite, Poulan,
etc) tiny little doses?

I run all my 2 stroke lawn/garden equipment on TCW-3 mixed at 32:1 for
longevity... had to free up the rings on my Homelite trimmer once in 12
years, it still runs as new...

Rob


I forget the exact meaning, but the "W" in TCW-3 stands for "water
cooled". Possibly designed to create less soot at lower temperatures?

All my weed whackers, snowblower and outboatrds run at 50:1 on TCW-3
for simplicity's sake. I don't mind a plug fowling on my lawn
equipment, but out on the water it's not much fun.

Personally, I hate 2 strokes, a neccessary evil!