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Yup, looks like a real aircraft carrier to me.
:^) Charles wrote: FS: 690' AIRCRAFT CARRIER http://tinyurl.com/23l6r -- Charlie |
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Dear Mr. Yacht Broker
Please accept my offer of full price for your aircraft carrier, subject to satisfactory discovery regarding the following issues. 1. Do you know of any affordable slips where we will be able to moor this vessel? 2. What sort of fuel economy will we be able to expect? 3. Will this boat be suitable for a cruising couple, or will we need to consider hiring one or two deckhands? 4. We are looking for a boat with sufficient capacity to accomodate our nieces and nephews during summer visits. Is there any chance this vessel sleeps as many as ten? 4. We will most certainly want to haul the boat for survey prior to purchase. Can you recommend a yard with a 296 strap lift or a rather large marine railway? Hoping for a quick reply........ |
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"Charles" wrote
FS: 690' AIRCRAFT CARRIER http://tinyurl.com/23l6r Yup. That's the former HMS Vengeance. It's been on ebay and listed with at least one other broker, that I know of. http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/vengeance/About.html |
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Some specs at the bottom of this page:
http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/ve...istory_RN.html 2. What sort of fuel economy will we be able to expect? Range at 25 knots is 5,900 miles. 'Oil fuel' is 3196 tons. How many gallons is this? Either way, I would have to say it's not the fuel economy you are accustomed to. 3. Will this boat be suitable for a cruising couple, or will we need to consider hiring one or two deckhands? 4. We are looking for a boat with sufficient capacity to accomodate our nieces and nephews during summer visits. Is there any chance this vessel sleeps as many as ten? Crew complement: 1300. You decide. :^) Certainly it qualifies as a live-aboard. -Jim |
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Jim wrote:
Range at 25 knots is 5,900 miles. 'Oil fuel' is 3196 tons. How many gallons is this? Either way, I would have to say it's not the fuel economy you are accustomed to. Depending on the quality of the fuel and its origin that would be around 900,000 gallons give or take a barrel or three. Rick |
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Depending on the quality of the fuel and its origin that would be around
900,000 gallons give or take a barrel or three. Rick Well that tears it. Over $2mm to fuel it up? Mr. Yacht Broker, I hereby withdraw my offer. Like a lot of potential boat buyers, I almost made the mistake of concluding I could automatically afford to maintain and operate it if I could afford to buy it. (Yeah, as if I could afford to buy it). |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
Well that tears it. Over $2mm to fuel it up? Just for grins guess how much it costs just to heat that fuel enough to burn it ... Rick |
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Another coral reef if'n you asked me.... :)
-W "Charles" wrote in message ... FS: 690' AIRCRAFT CARRIER http://tinyurl.com/23l6r -- Charlie |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
removed Well that tears it. Over $2mm to fuel it up? Mr. Yacht Broker, I hereby withdraw my offer. Don't forget, you would get a tax break on the fuel as it's not 'over the road' use. Like this would matter a heck of a lot. :^) -Jim |
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Rick wrote: Jim wrote: Range at 25 knots is 5,900 miles. 'Oil fuel' is 3196 tons. How many gallons is this? Either way, I would have to say it's not the fuel economy you are accustomed to. Depending on the quality of the fuel and its origin that would be around 900,000 gallons give or take a barrel or three. Rick I might have considered purchasing it if it was nuclear powered. :-) -- Charlie |
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Is this a British or Australian carrier?
My offer would be contingent on a satisfactory survey. And I wonder what BOAT/US will charge me for insurance... Hey, I have taken a Coast Guard boater safety course - do I get a discount? |
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Rick wrote: Jim wrote: Range at 25 knots is 5,900 miles. 'Oil fuel' is 3196 tons. How many gallons is this? Either way, I would have to say it's not the fuel economy you are accustomed to. Depending on the quality of the fuel and its origin that would be around 900,000 gallons give or take a barrel or three. Rick EG I make it 872,508 gallons (net @60 average), excluding the Chief's "sleeve" oil....... close enough for the Captain, but the Mate's bound to bitch. |
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Dear Mr. Gould:
One of our imaginative staff will reply to your message shortly. Meanwhile, we forgot to mention an additional selling point on the web site. Because the galley was designed to handle enormous quantities of food, the disposal system is equally enormous. While touring the ship, our appraiser made a offhand remark about the food waste systems being large enough to consume (and grind into unrecognizable bits) a typical PWC and its operator, whole. Please drop us a line if you'd like to know more about this. -D "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Dear Mr. Yacht Broker Please accept my offer of full price for your aircraft carrier, subject to satisfactory discovery regarding the following issues. 1. Do you know of any affordable slips where we will be able to moor this vessel? 2. What sort of fuel economy will we be able to expect? 3. Will this boat be suitable for a cruising couple, or will we need to consider hiring one or two deckhands? 4. We are looking for a boat with sufficient capacity to accomodate our nieces and nephews during summer visits. Is there any chance this vessel sleeps as many as ten? 4. We will most certainly want to haul the boat for survey prior to purchase. Can you recommend a yard with a 296 strap lift or a rather large marine railway? Hoping for a quick reply........ |
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Charles,
Just wait till you try to refuel, plus those spent uranium rods will be hard to recycle. Wonder if they have that stuff on E-bay? :-0 Paul "Charles" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Jim wrote: Range at 25 knots is 5,900 miles. 'Oil fuel' is 3196 tons. How many gallons is this? Either way, I would have to say it's not the fuel economy you are accustomed to. Depending on the quality of the fuel and its origin that would be around 900,000 gallons give or take a barrel or three. Rick I might have considered purchasing it if it was nuclear powered. :-) -- Charlie |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:02:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: While touring the ship, our appraiser made a offhand remark about the food waste systems being large enough to consume (and grind into unrecognizable bits) a typical PWC and its operator, whole. Please drop us a line if you'd like to know more about this. ================================================== How often can it do this and would there be any charge for the service? |
Minas Gerais is her name
Minas Gerais (HMS Colossus class) light strike/ASW aircraft carrier
Displacement: 19,900 tons full load Dimensions: 630 x 80 x 24 feet/192 x 24.4 x 7.3 meters Extreme Dimensions: 695 x ?? x 24 feet/211.8 x ?? x 7.3 meters Propulsion: Steam turbines, 4 boilers, 2 shafts, 40,000 shp, 24 knots Crew: 1300 Armor: none Armament: 10 40 mm AA Aircraft: 35 Concept/Program: An ex-RN/RAN light fleet carrier acquired in 1956. Is the Brazilian Navy's largest ship, and despite old age, remains in service. To be replaced by Sao Paulo and decommissioned by 2003. Modifications: Underwent extensive refit following purchase; angled deck added, new elevators installed, new island, all new aircraft operations and support equipment and electronics outfit. Mistral SAM fitted to replace AA guns in 1994. Operational: First operated as a strike/ASW carrier, then as an ASW-only ship. Laid up 1987 due to catapult problems, but returned to service. Now operates only helicopters, due to a lack of suitable fixed-wing aircraft. However, A-4s have been acquired, and the ship has operated with Argentine jets. Minas Gerais ex-HMAS Vengeance, ex-HMS Vengeance A11 "M" Photos: [HMS Vengeance as completed], [HMS Vengeance in service], [As HMAS Vengeance], [Minas Gerais as commissioned], [Minas Gerais in the 1990's.] [Minas Gerais in the 1990's.] Built by Swan Hunter. Laid down 16 Nov 1942, launched 23 Feb 1944, commissioned 15 Jan 1945. Served in the Mediterranean, then in the Pacific. RN designation changed to R64 circa 1945 for service in the Pacific; returned to previous designation postwar. Participated in cold-weather trials in the Arctic 1948-49; troop and aircraft transport 1951-52. Designation changed to R71 under NATO designation system. Refitted early 1950's and loaned to Australia 13 November 1952 as HMAS Vengeance. Initially served as a training carrier, then a first-line carrier starting late 1953, then returned to training in 1954. Decommissioned and returned to RN 13 Aug 1955 and placed in reserve upon return. Sold to Brazil 12 Dec 1956; refitted at Rotterdam 6/1957-12/1960, recommissioned 6 December 1960 as Minas Gerais (A11). Refitted 1976-1980 but laid up 1987 due to catapult problems. Refitted 1991-1993, recommissioned 10/1993; catapult repaired by 1996. During the 1990's operated only ASW helicopters, but A-4s have since been acquired. [Back To Top] "Charles" wrote in message ... FS: 690' AIRCRAFT CARRIER http://tinyurl.com/23l6r -- Charlie |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:02:08 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: While touring the ship, our appraiser made a offhand remark about the food waste systems being large enough to consume (and grind into unrecognizable bits) a typical PWC and its operator, whole. Please drop us a line if you'd like to know more about this. ================================================== How often can it do this and would there be any charge for the service? Previous owner would not divulge details of experience with metal/fiberglass/human bone. However, the system was tested with steer skeletons and was able to process 30 per hour. As far as a charge, that's something you'd need to negotiate with the owner of the boat. |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:08:37 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Previous owner would not divulge details of experience with metal/fiberglass/human bone. However, the system was tested with steer skeletons and was able to process 30 per hour. As far as a charge, that's something you'd need to negotiate with the owner of the boat. ================================================ Before committing to an ongoing arrangement I'd like to schedule some testing. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:08:37 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Previous owner would not divulge details of experience with metal/fiberglass/human bone. However, the system was tested with steer skeletons and was able to process 30 per hour. As far as a charge, that's something you'd need to negotiate with the owner of the boat. ================================================ Before committing to an ongoing arrangement I'd like to schedule some testing. Me too. Yesterday on Irondequoit Bay was ridiculous, although in all fairness, the boats were worse than the PWCs. |
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