Harry Krause wrote in message ...
DSK wrote:
SNIP
there were five objective greats: both Roosevelts,
Wilson, Johnson and Reagan. I would rank Reagan #2,
behind FDR. Normatively, I don't like much that FDR
did at all, but there is no disputing that he did it,
and changed the political landscape in fundamental,
enduring ways.
SNIP

I can't imagine any serious person putting LBJ on a list of great
Presidents. Wilson is a bit of a stretch too.

Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:

This last comment speaks volumes about the true character of
Conservatives
in this country- They give FDR his due-


Oh? I guess that means the legion of Republicans who regard FDR as a
traitor and sneer that the New Deal "failed" aren't really conservatives?

DSK


Great presidents of the last Century?

Wilson
FDR
Harry S Truman
JFK
Bill Clinton

Nixon might have been among the greatest, had he not ****ed up so
royally. He was one smart cookie. Nixon dead has a more jagged brain
wave than Dubya, who is as close to a flatliner as any many alive.

I think it's the times. IMO, presidential leadership has gotten
progressively worse, thanks in part to the dumbing-down of a voter
demographic raised on images, slogans, and easy catch-phrases. People
are just as likely to vote for the "better ad campaign" as they are a
candidate and his ideas. Arguably, part of Reagan's "greatness" is
that he had a certain persona and ability to exploit the right images
and slogans in a way that inspired others. Then again, the picture
tends to be rosier as memory fades and we become older and more
nostalgic while at the same time more cynical of our current times.

Also, the media pressure has become so great that it's been said, only
the most "insane" would want to run for president any more -- which is
rather sad, for certainly there are many men out there who would make
great leaders.

"~ Jonny ~" wrote in message
m...

Nixon might have been among the greatest, had he not ****ed up so
royally. He was one smart cookie. Nixon dead has a more jagged brain
wave than Dubya, who is as close to a flatliner as any many alive.


Who told you Nixon was all that?
Our own Pierre Trudeau had him beat in the 'smarts dept.'

Don White wrote:
"~ Jonny ~" wrote in message
m...

Nixon might have been among the greatest, had he not ****ed up so
royally. He was one smart cookie. Nixon dead has a more jagged brain
wave than Dubya, who is as close to a flatliner as any many alive.


Who told you Nixon was all that?
Our own Pierre Trudeau had him beat in the 'smarts dept.'



I was "around" during most of Nixon's public life. He was
extraordinarily intelligent, but his character flaws, booze, and
emotional problems did him him.

The only part of the Reagan service I saw today was the singing of Ronan
Tynan. What a remarkable voice and style.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

The only part of the Reagan service I saw today was the singing of Ronan
Tynan. What a remarkable voice and style.

Too bad you missed the trailer trash sleeping during the service.
http://drudgereport.com/rrbc.jpg

"Joe" wrote in message .. .
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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The only part of the Reagan service I saw today was the singing of Ronan
Tynan. What a remarkable voice and style.

Too bad you missed the trailer trash sleeping during the service.
http://drudgereport.com/rrbc.jpg

Man, you are stupid, JoeTechnician Hall. In your ignorant brain, if
someone's eyes are closed, they are sleeping? Look behind them. Those
people had there eyes closed, too. Do you think, just maybe, because
it WAS a funeral, that they were PRAYING at that moment? Nah, I'm sure
it never entered your mind.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"~ Jonny ~" wrote in message
m...

Nixon might have been among the greatest, had he not ****ed up so
royally. He was one smart cookie. Nixon dead has a more jagged brain
wave than Dubya, who is as close to a flatliner as any many alive.


Who told you Nixon was all that?
Our own Pierre Trudeau had him beat in the 'smarts dept.'



I was "around" during most of Nixon's public life. He was
extraordinarily intelligent, but his character flaws, booze, and
emotional problems did him him.

The only part of the Reagan service I saw today was the singing of Ronan
Tynan. What a remarkable voice and style.

Indeed. A very touching ceremony filled with class and grace, as were all
the previous ceremonies. How Nancy (82 years old) stood up so well to this
mentally and physically exhausting week is beyond me.


Regarding your Nixon comment...the same could be said of Clinton, exchanging
booze with sex. He is still scrambling to *rewrite* his Presidential
legacy, as evidenced by his latest book.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I was "around" during most of Nixon's public life. He was
extraordinarily intelligent, but his character flaws, booze, and
emotional problems did him him.

The only part of the Reagan service I saw today was the singing of Ronan
Tynan. What a remarkable voice and style.

Was this before or after your wife got her PHD?

"John Smith" wrote in Was this before or after
your wife got her PHD?


Why so much interest in Ms Krause's credentials?
Looking for a good shrink?

Nah, I just think it is so funny that Harry is so insecure that he has to
make up such an elaborate fantasy life.


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in Was this before or after
your wife got her PHD?


Why so much interest in Ms Krause's credentials?
Looking for a good shrink?

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in Was this before or after
your wife got her PHD?


Why so much interest in Ms Krause's credentials?
Looking for a good shrink?



Have to be an MD to be a shrink.