Mule wrote:
Scandals and lack of funds, is it all over for this left wing radio in
a little over a year on the air? I just got the new channel guide from
Sirius Satellite Radio and they have been taken off the guide, not sure
if they are still on XM.

Why "liberal radio" probably won't catch on in the long term:

There is a different mindset between liberals and conservatives. (news
flash, I know). Conservative radio is super successful because it is a
group-think format. "You need to act, think, speak, a certain way to be
a true and loyal American, and you certainly want to subscribe to the
following attitudes and values:____________________" Stereotypical
conservatives will more quickly gravitate toward a format where an
authority figure (such as a preacher or a radio show host)defines who
is good, who is bad, and which causes and candidates deserve political
support.

There is nothing particularly "wrong" with that, but it isn't how
liberals tend to operate. We liberals have been badly out-organized by
the right wing, and that trend is unlikely to reverse. Liberals are not
only skeptical of conservatives, we're skeptical of one another more
often than not. Sure, we'll turn out 100,000 for an anti-war march, but
there's likely to be 50,000 "discussions" going on in the crowd about
just *why* we should oppose the war.

One can see this trend in politics. The (more conservative) Republicans
continue to clean house (in all but the most porgressive states)
because they have nearly everybody singing from the same sheet music
most of the time. The (more liberal) Democrats are all over the field,
rather than working together, because the liberals are
often more concerned with being individuals than with forming a group
of loyal worker bees willing to take orders from the top.

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Another well thought out post by the Chuckster, thanks.

bb

"bb" wrote in message
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On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Another well thought out post by the Chuckster, thanks.

A core set of policies and values is what brings a political movement or
party together initially and gives it strength. The amalgamation that is the
Democrat party is falling apart be cause the core policies and values does
not exist.

The core constituency that was the Democrat party has been pushed to the
edges and the various single issue factions have moved into the middle of
the party. The end result is that the Democrat party will become a
collection of extremist fringe groups.

Air America is the vocal tool of the extremist fringe groups within the
Democrat party.

Bert Robbins wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
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On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Another well thought out post by the Chuckster, thanks.

A core set of policies and values is what brings a political movement or
party together initially and gives it strength. The amalgamation that is the
Democrat party is falling apart be cause the core policies and values does
not exist.

The core constituency that was the Democrat party has been pushed to the
edges and the various single issue factions have moved into the middle of
the party. The end result is that the Democrat party will become a
collection of extremist fringe groups.

Air America is the vocal tool of the extremist fringe groups within the
Democrat party.

We almost agree on this. The core constituency of the old Democratic
party, (Zell Miller, et al) has been absorbed into the GOP. A lot of
the old-time Democrats would be more comfortable today in the GOP.

You are correct. Conforming to a common set of values builds a strong
organization. That's why liberals are taking a political beating in
most areas, we are often very poor conformists. :-)

Different people will place higher and lower values on participating in
a group vs. following dictates of individual conscience. Because the
only important verdict about who or what you are is that of the guy/gal
looking back from you in the mirror, whether one takes solace and
comfort in the "group" or hangs out on the "fringe" its perfectly right
and OK, either way.

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Different people will place higher and lower values on participating in
a group vs. following dictates of individual conscience. Because the
only important verdict about who or what you are is that of the guy/gal
looking back from you in the mirror, whether one takes solace and
comfort in the "group" or hangs out on the "fringe" its perfectly right
and OK, either way.


It's easier to rationalize groupthink. You can mutate logic and say you're
"delegating" the political work.

On 28 Sep 2005 08:48:27 -0700, wrote:


Mule wrote:
Scandals and lack of funds, is it all over for this left wing radio in
a little over a year on the air? I just got the new channel guide from
Sirius Satellite Radio and they have been taken off the guide, not sure
if they are still on XM.

Why "liberal radio" probably won't catch on in the long term:

There is a different mindset between liberals and conservatives. (news
flash, I know). Conservative radio is super successful because it is a
group-think format. "You need to act, think, speak, a certain way to be
a true and loyal American, and you certainly want to subscribe to the
following attitudes and values:____________________" Stereotypical
conservatives will more quickly gravitate toward a format where an
authority figure (such as a preacher or a radio show host)defines who
is good, who is bad, and which causes and candidates deserve political
support.

There is nothing particularly "wrong" with that, but it isn't how
liberals tend to operate. We liberals have been badly out-organized by
the right wing, and that trend is unlikely to reverse. Liberals are not
only skeptical of conservatives, we're skeptical of one another more
often than not. Sure, we'll turn out 100,000 for an anti-war march, but
there's likely to be 50,000 "discussions" going on in the crowd about
just *why* we should oppose the war.

One can see this trend in politics. The (more conservative) Republicans
continue to clean house (in all but the most porgressive states)
because they have nearly everybody singing from the same sheet music
most of the time. The (more liberal) Democrats are all over the field,
rather than working together, because the liberals are
often more concerned with being individuals than with forming a group
of loyal worker bees willing to take orders from the top.

A presumed majority of liberals doesn't want an "approved" liberal
philosophy dispensed by a radio network. Based on ratings, many
conservatives crave it.

Do the folks on Air America not define who is good and who is bad?

Are they truly fair and balanced, Chuck?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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Do the folks on Air America not define who is good and who is bad?

Are they truly fair and balanced, Chuck?

About as much as (or as little as) Limbaugh and his audience of retarded
swine.

Doug,
It is unusual that you think Rush and company's standard of being fair and
unbiased is one you should strive for.

I personally find Rush and Company extremely biased nothing more than a
propaganda machine, but then again, I do try to think for myself.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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Do the folks on Air America not define who is good and who is bad?

Are they truly fair and balanced, Chuck?

About as much as (or as little as) Limbaugh and his audience of retarded
swine.

Limbaugh has only one purpose: To sell advertising and garlic pills. You
know that. Everything else is a script.

"Starbuck" wrote in message
...
Doug,
It is unusual that you think Rush and company's standard of being fair and
unbiased is one you should strive for.

I personally find Rush and Company extremely biased nothing more than a
propaganda machine, but then again, I do try to think for myself.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...


Do the folks on Air America not define who is good and who is bad?

Are they truly fair and balanced, Chuck?

About as much as (or as little as) Limbaugh and his audience of retarded
swine.

Doug,
..... and your point is? Limbaugh and "Air America" are both political
propaganda designed to bring an audience so they can sell advertising (I
don't know what you mean by garlic pills).

What was your point?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Limbaugh has only one purpose: To sell advertising and garlic pills. You
know that. Everything else is a script.

"Starbuck" wrote in message
...
Doug,
It is unusual that you think Rush and company's standard of being fair
and unbiased is one you should strive for.

I personally find Rush and Company extremely biased nothing more than a
propaganda machine, but then again, I do try to think for myself.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...


Do the folks on Air America not define who is good and who is bad?

Are they truly fair and balanced, Chuck?

About as much as (or as little as) Limbaugh and his audience of retarded
swine.