Just back from SoCal and boating.
 

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:56:12 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


You mentioned La Jolla, but didn't mention Black's Beach. Is it no longer the
beach it used to be?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Bill , sounds like a lovely trip and a lot of fun. Ever go fishing up on the
washington coast ? Thanks for the story.

Ed
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas
in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the
Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing
from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds.
Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching
there either. And a couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay,
with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission
Beach area and some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World
fireworks at night from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to
other daughters and a nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from
Redondo Beach. Lots of catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A
couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm
seas.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:56:12 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque
Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much
catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at
night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and
a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots
of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and
Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


You mentioned La Jolla, but didn't mention Black's Beach. Is it no longer
the
beach it used to be?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Only fished off La Jolla, did not go to town this trip. Mothers Beach has
been taken over by sea lions and one of the nicest childrens beach areas in
the world, can not be reclaimed as you can not legally bother a sea lion.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:56:59 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:56:12 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque
Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much
catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at
night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and
a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots
of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and
Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


You mentioned La Jolla, but didn't mention Black's Beach. Is it no longer
the
beach it used to be?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Only fished off La Jolla, did not go to town this trip. Mothers Beach has
been taken over by sea lions and one of the nicest childrens beach areas in
the world, can not be reclaimed as you can not legally bother a sea lion.


Black's Beach was a nudist (clothes optional) beach down the cliff from La
Jolla. Maybe they started enforcing the law, which, I believe, made public
nudity illegal. I'm talking about the mid-70's here, so things may have changed.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:56:59 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:56:12 GMT, "Bill McKee"

wrote:

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque
Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the
party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much
catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area
and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at
night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters
and
a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots
of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and
Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


You mentioned La Jolla, but didn't mention Black's Beach. Is it no
longer
the
beach it used to be?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Only fished off La Jolla, did not go to town this trip. Mothers Beach has
been taken over by sea lions and one of the nicest childrens beach areas
in
the world, can not be reclaimed as you can not legally bother a sea lion.


Black's Beach was a nudist (clothes optional) beach down the cliff from La
Jolla. Maybe they started enforcing the law, which, I believe, made public
nudity illegal. I'm talking about the mid-70's here, so things may have
changed.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Blacks Beach is still there, and I understand clothes are still optional.
But after 18 years of going to SD, I do not go to the tourist draws very
often. Mostly surf, kayak, fish, eat.

When ever you get up this way, let me know and I would be glad to show you
around up here. Some good fishing up this way . As for the wedding all I can
say is better out of your pocket than mine lol Is this the last daughter ?
If not you might want to start investing now lol

Ed
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Have not fished up there for a lot of years. Was Planning a Vancouver
Island trip next year, but a couple of friends are planning a drive to
Alaska, so may have to wait a year to take up the boat to Washington and
Vancouver. Plus I think the youngest daughter is getting engaged later
this year, so have to be here for a big party / wedding. Said I am
retired so you have to have a cheap wedding. Answer, was NO!, gets the
same as the older daughter. I will be up to 2/3rds of a Davis Rock Harbor
25 in wedding costs before I know it.
;)

"ed" wrote in message
...
Bill , sounds like a lovely trip and a lot of fun. Ever go fishing up on
the washington coast ? Thanks for the story.

Ed
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the
Gondolas in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful
weather, some nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local
wine from the Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego
and some fishing from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La
Jolla kelp beds. Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay,
little catching there either. And a couple of kayak trips without
fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie
boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and some bike rides around
the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at night from the house. Up
to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and a nice fishing
trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of catching.
Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish.
Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.

John and tell us how you know this was a nudist beach lol Back in the 70s
huh you are aging yourself lol Just have to give you a bad time Sorry lol

Ed
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:56:59 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:56:12 GMT, "Bill McKee"

wrote:

Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area.
On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to take a
Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas in
Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice
vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the Cinque
Terre
made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing from the
party
boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds. Not much
catching.
Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching there either. And a
couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish
sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area
and
some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at
night
from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters
and
a
nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots
of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and
Kelp
fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


You mentioned La Jolla, but didn't mention Black's Beach. Is it no
longer
the
beach it used to be?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Only fished off La Jolla, did not go to town this trip. Mothers Beach has
been taken over by sea lions and one of the nicest childrens beach areas
in
the world, can not be reclaimed as you can not legally bother a sea lion.


Black's Beach was a nudist (clothes optional) beach down the cliff from La
Jolla. Maybe they started enforcing the law, which, I believe, made public
nudity illegal. I'm talking about the mid-70's here, so things may have
changed.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:57:29 -0700, "ed" wrote:

John and tell us how you know this was a nudist beach lol Back in the 70s
huh you are aging yourself lol Just have to give you a bad time Sorry lol

Hell, back in the 70's I was still interested!

The funniest thing about this beach, within walking distance from Camp
Pendleton, was seeing the Marines with their sunburned butts!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Will maybe take you up on it. Last daughter, and I have invested well. I
may bitch about gas prices, but I have a lot of money in oil stocks. I have
a simple investment strategy. Oil, health and sin. They always pay well.
I am against smoking, but Altria has done well for me. To old to start
investing, been doing it for over 40 years. Retired Silicon Valley
engineer, with a small general contracting business in my retirement years,
to keep me from being bored.

"ed" wrote in message
...
When ever you get up this way, let me know and I would be glad to show you
around up here. Some good fishing up this way . As for the wedding all I
can say is better out of your pocket than mine lol Is this the last
daughter ? If not you might want to start investing now lol

Ed
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Have not fished up there for a lot of years. Was Planning a Vancouver
Island trip next year, but a couple of friends are planning a drive to
Alaska, so may have to wait a year to take up the boat to Washington and
Vancouver. Plus I think the youngest daughter is getting engaged later
this year, so have to be here for a big party / wedding. Said I am
retired so you have to have a cheap wedding. Answer, was NO!, gets the
same as the older daughter. I will be up to 2/3rds of a Davis Rock
Harbor 25 in wedding costs before I know it.
;)

"ed" wrote in message
...
Bill , sounds like a lovely trip and a lot of fun. Ever go fishing up on
the washington coast ? Thanks for the story.

Ed
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the
Gondolas in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful
weather, some nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local
wine from the Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego
and some fishing from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La
Jolla kelp beds. Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay,
little catching there either. And a couple of kayak trips without
fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie
boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and some bike rides around
the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at night from the house.
Up to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and a nice fishing
trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of
catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and
Kelp fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.

Welcome back Bill. Glad to hear you had a good time.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas
in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the
Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing
from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds.
Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching
there either. And a couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay,
with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission
Beach area and some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World
fireworks at night from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to
other daughters and a nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from
Redondo Beach. Lots of catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A
couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm
seas.

The beach within walking distance of Camp Pendleton is San Onofre's most
southern border.
Black's Beach is about 30 miles south of Camp Pendleton.
Both beaches are still clothing optional, if you dare to bare.
Never dared at either, but have surfed both frequently; usually weekdays
when no one is around.
That's how I know the little I know.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:57:29 -0700, "ed" wrote:

John and tell us how you know this was a nudist beach lol Back in the 70s
huh you are aging yourself lol Just have to give you a bad time Sorry
lol

Hell, back in the 70's I was still interested!

The funniest thing about this beach, within walking distance from Camp
Pendleton, was seeing the Marines with their sunburned butts!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...
Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas
in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the
Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing
from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds.
Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching
there either. And a couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission Bay,
with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the Mission
Beach area and some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea World
fireworks at night from the house. Up to the LA area on the way home to
other daughters and a nice fishing trip to Catalina Island yesterday from
Redondo Beach. Lots of catching. Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A
couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish. Beautiful 80 degree water and calm
seas.


Sounds like a great trip; one I don't get to make nearly as often as I'd
like.
I lived in Pacific Beach for 12 years and I still miss it; but they say you
can't go back. It's definitely not the quiet county I experienced in the
late 70's.

Redondo to Catalina sounds great. Since you were just there, were the
conditions safe for a Sea Ray 185 (18.5 foot open bow)? I'm still trying to
get a handle on the risk:benefit ratio of this "freshwater" boat. I would
love to trailer down and make the passage.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:46:09 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

The beach within walking distance of Camp Pendleton is San Onofre's most
southern border.
Black's Beach is about 30 miles south of Camp Pendleton.
Both beaches are still clothing optional, if you dare to bare.
Never dared at either, but have surfed both frequently; usually weekdays
when no one is around.
That's how I know the little I know.

Hell, a 30 mile early morning jog for a young marine looking for naked coeds?
Nothing to it!

Perhaps they drove. In any case they were most recognizable with their white
sidewalls and sunburned butts!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the Gondolas
in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful weather, some
nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local wine from the
Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego and some fishing
from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La Jolla kelp beds.
Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay, little catching
there either. And a couple of kayak trips without fishing on Mission
Bay, with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie boarding the surf of the
Mission Beach area and some bike rides around the area. Watching the Sea
World fireworks at night from the house. Up to the LA area on the way
home to other daughters and a nice fishing trip to Catalina Island
yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of catching. Mostly Mackeral and
Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish. Beautiful 80 degree
water and calm seas.


Sounds like a great trip; one I don't get to make nearly as often as I'd
like.
I lived in Pacific Beach for 12 years and I still miss it; but they say
you can't go back. It's definitely not the quiet county I experienced in
the late 70's.

Redondo to Catalina sounds great. Since you were just there, were the
conditions safe for a Sea Ray 185 (18.5 foot open bow)? I'm still trying
to get a handle on the risk:benefit ratio of this "freshwater" boat. I
would love to trailer down and make the passage.




Monday was very safe, well pretty darn safe with a little sense. The swells
were maybe 2'. There was an 18' boat that flipped near us, did not see it,
but a couple of others did. Was near the Pursuit, and they rescued the 2
guys. We were near the boiler rocks, so they probably got too close. I am
going to take my 21' boat down sometime. Be prepared to spend the night at
the island. The afternoon winds in the summer, can get fierce. 10-12'
swells with 2-3' wind waves. You can either wait to later in the evening or
return the next morning. A night in Avalon is not all bad. About 18 years
ago, we were coming back on the Catalina Express to Long Beach and at least
1/2 the crew was seasick. Tables and chairs sliding around the deck.
Register on www.allcoastsportfishing.com and follow the private boaters
reports. Is the main SoCal fishing boat forum.

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:46:09 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

The beach within walking distance of Camp Pendleton is San Onofre's most
southern border.
Black's Beach is about 30 miles south of Camp Pendleton.
Both beaches are still clothing optional, if you dare to bare.
Never dared at either, but have surfed both frequently; usually weekdays
when no one is around.
That's how I know the little I know.

Hell, a 30 mile early morning jog for a young marine looking for naked
coeds?
Nothing to it!


Well, if you're going to put it that way! Who could argue.


Perhaps they drove. In any case they were most recognizable with their
white
sidewalls and sunburned butts!
--
Probably so, and in the 70's their haircuts would definitely stand out
compared to the hair style of the decade.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Bryan" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Went to San Diego for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach
area. On the way down, used the gift certificate for our anniversary to
take a Gondola Ride through the Naples canals. Cheaper than the
Gondolas in Venice, Italy. Very nice little mini cruise, beautiful
weather, some nice vino from our trip to Italy last October. A local
wine from the Cinque Terre made from raisins. Then down to San Diego
and some fishing from the party boats out of Seaforth Landing to the La
Jolla kelp beds. Not much catching. Some Kayak fishing on Mission Bay,
little catching there either. And a couple of kayak trips without
fishing on Mission Bay, with some fish sighted. A lot of boogie
boarding the surf of the Mission Beach area and some bike rides around
the area. Watching the Sea World fireworks at night from the house. Up
to the LA area on the way home to other daughters and a nice fishing
trip to Catalina Island yesterday from Redondo Beach. Lots of catching.
Mostly Mackeral and Calico Bass. A couple of Sheepshead and Kelp fish.
Beautiful 80 degree water and calm seas.


Sounds like a great trip; one I don't get to make nearly as often as I'd
like.
I lived in Pacific Beach for 12 years and I still miss it; but they say
you can't go back. It's definitely not the quiet county I experienced in
the late 70's.

Redondo to Catalina sounds great. Since you were just there, were the
conditions safe for a Sea Ray 185 (18.5 foot open bow)? I'm still trying
to get a handle on the risk:benefit ratio of this "freshwater" boat. I
would love to trailer down and make the passage.




Monday was very safe, well pretty darn safe with a little sense. The
swells were maybe 2'. There was an 18' boat that flipped near us, did not
see it, but a couple of others did. Was near the Pursuit, and they
rescued the 2 guys. We were near the boiler rocks, so they probably got
too close. I am going to take my 21' boat down sometime. Be prepared to
spend the night at the island. The afternoon winds in the summer, can get
fierce. 10-12' swells with 2-3' wind waves. You can either wait to later
in the evening or return the next morning. A night in Avalon is not all
bad. About 18 years ago, we were coming back on the Catalina Express to
Long Beach and at least 1/2 the crew was seasick. Tables and chairs
sliding around the deck. Register on www.allcoastsportfishing.com and
follow the private boaters reports. Is the main SoCal fishing boat forum.


I've sailed to Two Harbors from Marina Del Rey half a dozen times or more,
but that's in 30-40 foot sailboats that were well-prepared for, at the very
least, coastal cruising, in weather fair or foul. I had plenty of sailing
experience in and outside San Francisco Bay so I know my limits and options
in sailboat. I know the wind patterns between SoCal and Catalina Island and
I usually have to motor for the first couple of hours and then it's 4-6
hours of good sailing for a flying finish. I'm just not familiar with how
an 18 foot runabout handles in small seas. I do know that I would make the
run in the early morning as soon as its light enough to keep an eye out for
tankers and freighters. And there sure isn't any reason to come home the
same day! A night at the island is good medicine.