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John Gaquin September 6th 05 02:24 AM

Well ain't that just something?
 
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic, slimy,
sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of defenseless
working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million to Katrina
relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton Family Trust.]
That's more than most nations of the world have pledged. WalMart has also
stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm is guaranteed a job
at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.



*JimH* September 6th 05 02:03 PM


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)



[email protected] September 6th 05 03:15 PM


*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


PocoLoco September 6th 05 04:06 PM

On 6 Sep 2005 07:15:15 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Cheap PR is saying you had a motorcycle that never existed!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

*JimH* September 6th 05 04:24 PM


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*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Naw. Cheap PR is Sean Penn buying a small boat without having a clue on how
to operate it (or to put the drain plug in before it is launched) and having
the boat sink while he was desperately trying to bail it out. And he
brought along his personal photographer to capture every minute of it.

Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)



PocoLoco September 6th 05 04:33 PM

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:24:57 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Naw. Cheap PR is Sean Penn buying a small boat without having a clue on how
to operate it (or to put the drain plug in before it is launched) and having
the boat sink while he was desperately trying to bail it out. And he
brought along his personal photographer to capture every minute of it.

Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


Amen!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] September 6th 05 05:41 PM

Rescuing Sean Penn aka "Saving the Brain Dead"


P. Fritz September 6th 05 07:19 PM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 6 Sep 2005 07:15:15 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23

Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the

Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have

pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the

storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement

point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Cheap PR is saying you had a motorcycle that never existed!


Or a college degree never achieved..

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




thunder September 6th 05 11:16 PM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:24:57 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


As opposed to the very expensive PR of Bush's two photo-op trips? *If* it
wasn't Sean Penn, but just some regular guy, would you be as critical?
How about John Travolta? He flew in five tons of needed supplies. PR, or
just someone trying?

PocoLoco September 7th 05 01:04 AM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:16:30 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:24:57 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


As opposed to the very expensive PR of Bush's two photo-op trips? *If* it
wasn't Sean Penn, but just some regular guy, would you be as critical?
How about John Travolta? He flew in five tons of needed supplies. PR, or
just someone trying?


Did he have his photographers along?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NOYB September 7th 05 01:29 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to rent an
apartment and buy health insurance.


How much did the AFL-CIO donate?



NOYB September 7th 05 01:31 AM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have
pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement
point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)


I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Naw. Cheap PR is Sean Penn buying a small boat without having a clue on
how to operate it (or to put the drain plug in before it is launched) and
having the boat sink while he was desperately trying to bail it out. And
he brought along his personal photographer to capture every minute of it.

Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


Please send a link to the pics/story.



*JimH* September 7th 05 01:36 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the
Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have
pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement
point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)

I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Naw. Cheap PR is Sean Penn buying a small boat without having a clue on
how to operate it (or to put the drain plug in before it is launched) and
having the boat sink while he was desperately trying to bail it out. And
he brought along his personal photographer to capture every minute of it.

Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


Please send a link to the pics/story.


A Google search will show it. Let me know if you cannot find it.



Jack Goff September 7th 05 02:15 AM

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:29:43 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.


If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to rent an
apartment and buy health insurance.


How much did the AFL-CIO donate?


They're donating union labor to the rebiulding effort... at 1.5 times
the going rate in NYC, with double coffee breaks and 4 day work weeks.

They're predicting massive union losses from such oppressive job
conditions.

NOYB September 7th 05 02:21 AM


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:29:43 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.

If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to rent an
apartment and buy health insurance.


How much did the AFL-CIO donate?


They're donating union labor to the rebiulding effort... at 1.5 times
the going rate in NYC, with double coffee breaks and 4 day work weeks.

They're predicting massive union losses from such oppressive job
conditions.



LOL.




NOYB September 7th 05 02:27 AM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"*JimH*" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million
to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the
Walton
Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have
pledged.
WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by the
storm
is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their resettlement
point.


Those dirty greedy hateful *******s! ;-)

I agree, it's just cheap PR for them.


Naw. Cheap PR is Sean Penn buying a small boat without having a clue on
how to operate it (or to put the drain plug in before it is launched)
and having the boat sink while he was desperately trying to bail it out.
And he brought along his personal photographer to capture every minute
of it.

Now *that* is cheap PR....priceless also. ;-)


Please send a link to the pics/story.


A Google search will show it. Let me know if you cannot find it.


http://tinyurl.com/dnzy3

http://tinyurl.com/8dzqp

Priceless!



Tim September 7th 05 02:49 AM

As opposed to the very expensive PR of Bush's two photo-op trips? *If*
it
wasn't Sean Penn, but just some regular guy, would you be as critical?
How about John Travolta? He flew in five tons of needed supplies. PR,
or
just someone trying?

_--------------------------------

But I bet you didn't see Travolta taking the time to blast away at the
administration either. Penn turned his experiences into a political
opinion/statement.


Tim September 7th 05 02:54 AM

As opposed to the very expensive PR of Bush's two photo-op trips? *If*

it
wasn't Sean Penn, but just some regular guy, would you be as critical?
How about John Travolta? He flew in five tons of needed supplies. PR,

or
just someone trying?


________________________________________

I also heard that Nicholas Cage has donated at least $1 mil. (if not
more) in cash for reliefe funds.

I haven't read about him blasting away at the gov't either.


Tim September 7th 05 02:55 AM

As opposed to the very expensive PR of Bush's two photo-op trips?

-----------------------------------------

Do you honestly think that any other president would have done anything
less?


NOYB September 7th 05 02:26 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from the
Walton Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world have
pledged. WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee displaced by
the storm is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to their
resettlement point.
If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to rent an
apartment and buy health insurance.


How much did the AFL-CIO donate?




I don't work for the AFL-CIO, but the labor movement has always been on
the front lines in responding to these situations. As of the middle of
last week, the following had been publicized by the AFL and some of its
member unions:

* The AFL-CIO has created a special Hurricane Relief Fund as part of
the Union Community Fund. Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane to make a
tax-deductible contribution and be part of the largest relief effort in
the nation's history.
* Delegates to the CWA convention in Chicago voted to send up to $4
million in hurricane relief aid to help CWA families in the area.
* Several unions have established hurricane relief funds to aid their
members' recovery. Visit their websites for more information: AFT
(http://www.aft.org); Air Line Pilots (http://www.alpa.org); Fire Fighters
(http://www.iaff.org); Machinists (http://www.iamaw.org); National Air
Traffic Controllers Association (http://www.natca.org); and Postal Workers
(http://www.apwu.org).
* AFGE has partnered with the Federal Employee Education & Assistance
Fund to provide support and direct assistance to hurricane victims. Go to
http://www.afge.org for more information or to http://www.feea.org to
donate.
* The American Federation of Television and Radio Artists and the
Screen Actors are asking members to contribute to the Actors' Fund of
America or the Motion Picture Players Welfare Fund. Go to
http://www.aftra.org or http://www.sag.org for more information.
* Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane for information on other
organizations that also are accepting donations for hurricane relief.
Check that site regularly for updates.
* IAFF President Harold Schaitberger traveled to the disaster area
Sept. 1 to help coordinate the union's relief effort at the IAFF Command
Response Center. Several IAFF locals from around the country sent members
for immediate rescue and recovery operations as part of urban
search-and-rescue teams. In addition, many of the local firefighters and
paramedics working around the clock in the disaster areas are IAFF
members.
* NATCA is planning to organize caravans of relief supplies, including
food, water, baby wipes, bug spray, generators and other critically needed
supplies.


And all of it combined doesn't add up to the $23 million in cash that
Wal-Mart has donated...plus all of the other things that they've given to
the relief effort.



I'm sure there is much more since the middle of last week. I know union
members everywhere are taking in union families who have been left
homeless. We have two such families living in a rental house I own in
Florida, and we might, I still don't know, be taking in a distant relative
who was left homeless in NO, though he also has some relatives in Georgia.


That's wonderful. But I didn't ask what *you* donated. It's really
nobody's business. The topic was about Wal-Mart.


What have you donated, Noybby? A toothbrush?


See reply above.



NOYB September 7th 05 02:49 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor of
defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has donated $23
Million to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart and $8M from
the Walton Family Trust.] That's more than most nations of the world
have pledged. WalMart has also stated that any WalMart employee
displaced by the storm is guaranteed a job at the nearest WalMart to
their resettlement point.
If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to rent
an apartment and buy health insurance.
How much did the AFL-CIO donate?



I don't work for the AFL-CIO, but the labor movement has always been on
the front lines in responding to these situations. As of the middle of
last week, the following had been publicized by the AFL and some of its
member unions:

* The AFL-CIO has created a special Hurricane Relief Fund as part of
the Union Community Fund. Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane to make
a tax-deductible contribution and be part of the largest relief effort
in the nation's history.
* Delegates to the CWA convention in Chicago voted to send up to $4
million in hurricane relief aid to help CWA families in the area.
* Several unions have established hurricane relief funds to aid
their members' recovery. Visit their websites for more information: AFT
(http://www.aft.org); Air Line Pilots (http://www.alpa.org); Fire
Fighters (http://www.iaff.org); Machinists (http://www.iamaw.org);
National Air Traffic Controllers Association (http://www.natca.org); and
Postal Workers (http://www.apwu.org).
* AFGE has partnered with the Federal Employee Education &
Assistance Fund to provide support and direct assistance to hurricane
victims. Go to http://www.afge.org for more information or to
http://www.feea.org to donate.
* The American Federation of Television and Radio Artists and the
Screen Actors are asking members to contribute to the Actors' Fund of
America or the Motion Picture Players Welfare Fund. Go to
http://www.aftra.org or http://www.sag.org for more information.
* Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane for information on other
organizations that also are accepting donations for hurricane relief.
Check that site regularly for updates.
* IAFF President Harold Schaitberger traveled to the disaster area
Sept. 1 to help coordinate the union's relief effort at the IAFF Command
Response Center. Several IAFF locals from around the country sent
members for immediate rescue and recovery operations as part of urban
search-and-rescue teams. In addition, many of the local firefighters and
paramedics working around the clock in the disaster areas are IAFF
members.
* NATCA is planning to organize caravans of relief supplies,
including food, water, baby wipes, bug spray, generators and other
critically needed supplies.


And all of it combined doesn't add up to the $23 million in cash that
Wal-Mart has donated...plus all of the other things that they've given to
the relief effort.



D'oh. The AFL is a trade association of labor unions, not the world's
largest retailer, with unlimited resources.


They sure seem to have unlimited resources for campaign contributions come
election time.






NOYB September 7th 05 03:22 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat,
capitalistic, slimy, sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating
oppressor of defenseless working-class Americans - Wal-Mart - has
donated $23 Million to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M from WalMart
and $8M from the Walton Family Trust.] That's more than most
nations of the world have pledged. WalMart has also stated that any
WalMart employee displaced by the storm is guaranteed a job at the
nearest WalMart to their resettlement point.
If they each work three wal-mart jobs, they might make enough to
rent an apartment and buy health insurance.
How much did the AFL-CIO donate?


I don't work for the AFL-CIO, but the labor movement has always been
on the front lines in responding to these situations. As of the middle
of last week, the following had been publicized by the AFL and some of
its member unions:

* The AFL-CIO has created a special Hurricane Relief Fund as part
of the Union Community Fund. Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane to
make a tax-deductible contribution and be part of the largest relief
effort in the nation's history.
* Delegates to the CWA convention in Chicago voted to send up to
$4 million in hurricane relief aid to help CWA families in the area.
* Several unions have established hurricane relief funds to aid
their members' recovery. Visit their websites for more information:
AFT (http://www.aft.org); Air Line Pilots (http://www.alpa.org); Fire
Fighters (http://www.iaff.org); Machinists (http://www.iamaw.org);
National Air Traffic Controllers Association (http://www.natca.org);
and Postal Workers (http://www.apwu.org).
* AFGE has partnered with the Federal Employee Education &
Assistance Fund to provide support and direct assistance to hurricane
victims. Go to http://www.afge.org for more information or to
http://www.feea.org to donate.
* The American Federation of Television and Radio Artists and the
Screen Actors are asking members to contribute to the Actors' Fund of
America or the Motion Picture Players Welfare Fund. Go to
http://www.aftra.org or http://www.sag.org for more information.
* Go to http://www.aflcio.org/hurricane for information on other
organizations that also are accepting donations for hurricane relief.
Check that site regularly for updates.
* IAFF President Harold Schaitberger traveled to the disaster area
Sept. 1 to help coordinate the union's relief effort at the IAFF
Command Response Center. Several IAFF locals from around the country
sent members for immediate rescue and recovery operations as part of
urban search-and-rescue teams. In addition, many of the local
firefighters and paramedics working around the clock in the disaster
areas are IAFF members.
* NATCA is planning to organize caravans of relief supplies,
including food, water, baby wipes, bug spray, generators and other
critically needed supplies.

And all of it combined doesn't add up to the $23 million in cash that
Wal-Mart has donated...plus all of the other things that they've given
to the relief effort.

D'oh. The AFL is a trade association of labor unions, not the world's \
largest retailer, with unlimited resources.


They sure seem to have unlimited resources for campaign contributions
come election time.







Nope. Compared to the cons, just a pittance.


Yes. Their Katrina donations compared to their election campaign donations
*are* a pittance.


If you compare campaign contributions vs. Katrina donations, you'll find the
AFL-CIO ratio to be a lot higher than the Wal-Mart ratio.






Tim September 8th 05 01:16 PM

Wal-Mart - has donated $23 Million to Katrina relief. [Actually $15M
from WalMart and $8M from the Walton Family Trust.]
-------------------------------------------------
I know thats a heck of a lot of money, especially to the common
working, or not so working stiff, but actually it's not pennies to what
the Walton family is turely worth with allt heir endevours. We're
talking about a multi-BILLION dollar corp. here

I would hope to be wrong, but this actually looks to me like Walmart is
buying publicity at a minimum price.
-------------------------------------------------


That's more than most nations of the world have
pledged. ..."


Yeah, but they pledged Sri Lanka is a thirld world country that doesn't
ahve two nickels to rub together,a nd they donated $25,000. I wonder
how much Iran, and N. Korea will kick in????



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