On 13 Aug 2005 08:46:19 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

I dont know why the moonies call there businesses TRUE because i have
never seen so much lies and deception done to people by any other
organisation than the moonies.

http://www.trueworldmarine.com
True World Marine,owned by Rev Sun Myung Moon leader of the Moonies.

Well, it may have been the Moonies, but they built one hell of a
center console fishing boat designed by Henry Masters. That same boat
is now being built under the True World Marine banner and frankly, I
had seriously considered purchasing one prior to buying the Contender
I have now. The reason I didn't is that I wasn't comfortable with the
inboard diesel system - I'm an outboard guy at heart and prefer them.

The old Master Marine center consoles are highly prized for
restoration and can command some pretty nifty prices pre-restoration
and after. Ocean makes a clone copy of the boat, only it's one foot
shorter than the original 27'9".

The original Master Marine CCs were long range, handled like a dream
and took heavy water with aplomb. They had a solid chine with a wide
bow flare combined with a sharp bow angle and entry with an extremely
long forefoot. The 24º V also kept the boat solid as a rock in heavy
weather. I've taken one into a series of 5' rollers in the East
Passage of Narragansett Bay and never got wet.

The True World 28 that I tested was a great boat. It was well fit out
and other than the inboard jack shaft diesel, I would have bought one.

Amazing design - I'm surprised more designers haven't cloned it.

Later,

Tom

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:35:40 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:25:02 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:56:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
I dont know why the moonies call there businesses TRUE because i
have
never seen so much lies and deception done to people by any other
organisation than the moonies.

http://www.trueworldmarine.com
True World Marine,owned by Rev Sun Myung Moon leader of the
Moonies.

http://familyfed.org Moonies main website,type in the search
box,True
World Marine.

Rev.Moon claims o be the Messiah.

At yahoo there are other businesses under the name True World but
i
dont know if they are all owned by Rev.Moon,there is True World
Travel
and True World Foods it has the same company symbol as True World
Marine http://www.trueworldfoods.com

http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/analysis/1101moon.htm
Global Policy UN investigation on Rev.Moon,read number
16,conclusion.

http://www.freedomofmind.com
Type into the search box,True World Foods.

Rev. Moon also owns and controls the Washington Times newspaper,
official house organ and cheerleader for the Republican Party of
the
United States. Moon's operatives determine what appears on the
editorial
page of that paper and also slant news stories to extoll the
virtues of
idiots like George W. Bush.
Crossposting again, Harry? We don't have enough in this group?

Thank God for the Washington Times. At least people have a chance to
read the
'other side of the story' as presented by the NY Times, LA Times,
and Washington
Post, not to mention the major broadcast media.

You'd think, with all that firepower against the administration,
that Bush's
approval rating would be down around ten percent. He must be doing
something
right!

The only thing Bush is doing is appealing to the simple minded right.

President Bush Job Approval
Updated Daily by Noon Eastern

Bush Job Approval
Strongly Approve 23%
Somewhat Approve 23%
Somewhat Disapprove 16%
Strongly Disapprov5 36%

RasmussenReports.com


Saturday August 13, 2005--Forty-seven percent (47%) of American
adults
approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as
President.

Fifty-two percent (52%) of Americans disapprove.

The President's Approval Rating is at 79% among Republicans, 20%
among
Democrats, and 38% among those not affiliated with either major
party.

The decline in the President's Approval Rating is matched by growing
pessimism in the War on Terror.

During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon
surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would
report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all
adults.

On Election Day, the President's Job Approval was at 52%. During all
of
2004, the President's Job Approval ranged from a high of 57% in early
January to a low of 48% on May 17.

The President's highest rating of 2005 was 54% on February 4.




I've not noticed Democratic support for a sitting president lower,
nor
have I seen non-aligned voters so turned off by a sitting president.
This is good for the country, actually, because it will tend to limit
the amount of damage Bush will be able to do until he leaves office.

It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get a
more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions.
Given the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than
about a 20%
approval rating.



What the polls show is that what support Bush has is almost all partisan
Republican support. As for the Washington Times, I suppose it
appropriate for you to blame it for your rather naive view of reality.

I blamed the Washington Times for nothing. Haven't even seen one for a
year or
more. Are you projecting possible causes for your views?

Like I said, given the coverage he gets, I'm surprised he has *any*
support.

It is pretty funny to see harry talk about reality, when he lives in a
fantasy "harryland" where he owns a 36' lobsta boat, holds a degree from
Yale, and has a dr. dr. wife.



--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

I wonder if Yale could start legal proceedings if someone falsely stated
they held a degree from Yale.


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:35:40 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:25:02 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:56:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
I dont know why the moonies call there businesses TRUE because i
have
never seen so much lies and deception done to people by any other
organisation than the moonies.

http://www.trueworldmarine.com
True World Marine,owned by Rev Sun Myung Moon leader of the
Moonies.

http://familyfed.org Moonies main website,type in the search
box,True
World Marine.

Rev.Moon claims o be the Messiah.

At yahoo there are other businesses under the name True World but
i
dont know if they are all owned by Rev.Moon,there is True World
Travel
and True World Foods it has the same company symbol as True World
Marine http://www.trueworldfoods.com

http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/analysis/1101moon.htm
Global Policy UN investigation on Rev.Moon,read number
16,conclusion.

http://www.freedomofmind.com
Type into the search box,True World Foods.

Rev. Moon also owns and controls the Washington Times newspaper,
official house organ and cheerleader for the Republican Party of
the
United States. Moon's operatives determine what appears on the
editorial
page of that paper and also slant news stories to extoll the
virtues of
idiots like George W. Bush.
Crossposting again, Harry? We don't have enough in this group?

Thank God for the Washington Times. At least people have a chance
to read the
'other side of the story' as presented by the NY Times, LA Times,
and Washington
Post, not to mention the major broadcast media.

You'd think, with all that firepower against the administration,
that Bush's
approval rating would be down around ten percent. He must be doing
something
right!

The only thing Bush is doing is appealing to the simple minded
right.

President Bush Job Approval
Updated Daily by Noon Eastern

Bush Job Approval
Strongly Approve 23%
Somewhat Approve 23%
Somewhat Disapprove 16%
Strongly Disapprov5 36%

RasmussenReports.com


Saturday August 13, 2005--Forty-seven percent (47%) of American
adults
approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as
President.

Fifty-two percent (52%) of Americans disapprove.

The President's Approval Rating is at 79% among Republicans, 20%
among
Democrats, and 38% among those not affiliated with either major
party.

The decline in the President's Approval Rating is matched by growing
pessimism in the War on Terror.

During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon
surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would
report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all
adults.

On Election Day, the President's Job Approval was at 52%. During all
of
2004, the President's Job Approval ranged from a high of 57% in
early
January to a low of 48% on May 17.

The President's highest rating of 2005 was 54% on February 4.




I've not noticed Democratic support for a sitting president lower,
nor
have I seen non-aligned voters so turned off by a sitting president.
This is good for the country, actually, because it will tend to
limit
the amount of damage Bush will be able to do until he leaves office.

It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get
a more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions.
Given the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than
about a 20%
approval rating.



What the polls show is that what support Bush has is almost all
partisan
Republican support. As for the Washington Times, I suppose it
appropriate for you to blame it for your rather naive view of reality.

I blamed the Washington Times for nothing. Haven't even seen one for a
year or
more. Are you projecting possible causes for your views?

Like I said, given the coverage he gets, I'm surprised he has *any*
support.

It is pretty funny to see harry talk about reality, when he lives in a
fantasy "harryland" where he owns a 36' lobsta boat, holds a degree from
Yale, and has a dr. dr. wife.



--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. wrote:


Rev. Moon also owns and controls the Washington Times newspaper,
official house organ and cheerleader for the Republican Party of the
United States. Moon's operatives determine what appears on the editorial
page of that paper and also slant news stories to extoll the virtues of
idiots like George W. Bush.


Crossposting again, Harry? We don't have enough in this group?

Thank God for the Washington Times. At least people have a chance to read the
'other side of the story' as presented by the NY Times, LA Times, and Washington
Post, not to mention the major broadcast media.

You'd think, with all that firepower against the administration, that Bush's
approval rating would be down around ten percent. He must be doing something
right!



Compulsion: an irresistible impulse to perform an irrational act.

A nitwit cross posts a diatribe about the moonies and it quickly morphs
into the familiar political BS. I know, folks are simply honing their
debating skills and could stop anytime they wished. Well, maybe just a
couple more posts to prove how wrong the other guy is, then they'll
quit. No problems here.

"John H." wrote in message
It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get a
more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions. Given
the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than about
a 20%
approval rating.


Just like FOX is "fair and balanced".........

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:31:13 GMT, "Gorf" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get a
more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions. Given
the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than about
a 20%
approval rating.


Just like FOX is "fair and balanced".........


Thank you! The problem with anything that is 'fair and balanced' is that seems
'ultra-conservative' because of what so many are used to.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:31:13 GMT, "Gorf" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get a
more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions. Given
the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than about
a 20%
approval rating.

Just like FOX is "fair and balanced".........


Thank you! The problem with anything that is 'fair and balanced' is that seems
'ultra-conservative' because of what so many are used to.



No, the problem is that Fox and The Washington Times are blatantly and
overtly right wing, and the Times is controlled by a felon who runs a
right-wing religious cult.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:16:23 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:31:13 GMT, "Gorf" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
It's a shame more people don't take the Washington Times. They'd get a
more
'fair and balanced' set of stories on which to base their opinions. Given
the
current reporting and coverage, I'm surprised he's showing more than about
a 20%
approval rating.

Just like FOX is "fair and balanced".........


Thank you! The problem with anything that is 'fair and balanced' is that seems
'ultra-conservative' because of what so many are used to.



No, the problem is that Fox and The Washington Times are blatantly and
overtly right wing, and the Times is controlled by a felon who runs a
right-wing religious cult.

No, the Post, NY & LA Times, NBC, CBS, and ABC are blatantly liberal. As
usual, you've got it backwards.

Being religious didn't seem to bother you when Kerry was running!

Tell us about the Lobsta boat. You'd be more believable.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD