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Doug Kanter August 2nd 05 12:38 PM

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Consider these items: construction of a $7 million
''Renaissance Square'' performing arts center in Rochester, New York;


It seems the community is about evenly split about this little gem. I wonder
about the people who've never been asked, which leads me to wonder why we
don't have referendums on such issues, and prison time for officials who
screw up these projects.

On a similar subject: Some years back, the county decided to replace our
aging baseball stadium. The old one could've been renovated, but that didn't
make certain parties happy. When the county executive was on TV to announce
the new one, we found out who the "who" was, via a tasteless error. Sitting
in the CE's office was some fat cat in a 3 piece suit, with a cigar. I
commented on this to a friend, who said "That's Tony so-and-so, who owns
(some name) construction".

Local officials should have their bank accounts audited, and compared with
any large purchases they make.



P. Fritz August 2nd 05 02:52 PM


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On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed many

key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's priorities

are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special

interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million "Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen a

highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a widening

that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to

20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And thanks

to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his willingness to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also includes

$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island -- "they reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5 million for

a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the final

passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that the House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of New

Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The

biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker. Meanwhile,

"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage." Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for [the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers even the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued policies

that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access to

this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing

orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the energy

bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total of $88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill." Despite


these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in the

short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign oil." A

2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the "bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average

Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year and

doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety percent of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high medical

bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have shot to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will make it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such

episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq

supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints. Though the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal with

the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major cash

for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent corporations. At

the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for the

wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George

Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that do not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical malpractice cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and look at

the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The legislation

has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account for less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by a

measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would "disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes. According to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while at the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once

again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not counted.


It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice, keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself







Peter Aitken August 2nd 05 03:08 PM

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
...
On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed many

key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's priorities

are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special

interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million
"Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen a

highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a widening

that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to

20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And thanks

to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his willingness to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also includes

$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island -- "they
reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5 million for

a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the final

passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that the
House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of New

Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The

biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker. Meanwhile,

"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage."
Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for [the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers even the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued policies

that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access to

this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas
producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing

orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the energy

bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total of
$88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill." Despite


these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in the

short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign oil." A

2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas
prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the "bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average

Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The
credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year and

doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety percent
of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high medical

bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have shot to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will make it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such

episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq

supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints. Though the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal with

the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major cash

for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent corporations. At

the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for the

wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George

Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that do
not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical malpractice
cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and look at

the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The legislation

has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account for less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by a

measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would "disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes. According to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while at
the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once

again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all
together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not
counted.


It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice, keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or not be
true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and all you
can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among right-wing
nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken



Bill McKee August 2nd 05 10:40 PM


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FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending.


Hmmm. The Highway bill appropriated the necessary funding to widen I-75
in
Southwest Florida from 2 lanes to 3 lanes. Since most of the working
folks
in Naples, Bonita Springs, Estero, and Fort Myers have to sit in 1-2
hours
of traffic on that road every morning, I'd say that the money is hardly
"wasteful pork spending".


The Highway Bill had 6,000 pork additions to it. 6000!!!! BILLIONS of
the dollars for the Highway Bill is used up by the pork. Do you think
that those below are "hardly wasteful pork spending"? Its just a few of
them:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Consider these items: construction of a $7 million
''Renaissance Square'' performing arts center in Rochester, New York; a
$1.5 million improvement for the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn,
Michigan; and the $1 million renovation of a historic bus station in
Jessup, Georgia.

There's money for all three -- and much more -- in the new highway
construction bill.

Many people may not understand what such projects have to do with
highways. But that's "How It Works."

Lawmakers of both parties use the massive bill to earmark funds for
local projects that appeal to the folks back home. That's especially
important in election years. Because there's something for everyone in
the bill, it routinely sails through Congress.

The $275 billion dollar transportation bill that the House approved
last week contains at least $11 billion worth of local pet projects.

Rep. William Lipinski, D-Illinois, who pushed through a $4 million
parking garage, wanted an even bigger bill. Last year, he introduced a
$375 billion highway bill -- a full $100 million more than the one
passed last week.

Lipinski may be a Democrat, but pork is bipartisan. Kingston, the
sponsor of the historic bus station renovation, is a conservative
Republican.

Democrats and Republicans defended the spending. "If you don't keep
good highways, you can't keep and grow good jobs," Sen. Christopher
Bond, R-Missouri, said on the Senate floor.

Others see the spending as fiscally irresponsible. "How far and
disgraceful a path we have tread in this pork-barrel laden piece of
over-spending at a time when we have all-time deficits," declared Sen.
John McCain, R-Arizona.

The White House agrees and is threatening a veto -- which both houses
of Congress have enough votes to override. In the end, that means
President Bush will be able to take a stand against pork-barrel
spending, but House and Senate members will still get the pork they so
desire


There was something like 20% pork in the first Iraq spending bill. Lots to
Democrats also. Why are Byrd and Kennedy so popular in their states? They
bring home the pork! Where was your outrage then?



Bill McKee August 2nd 05 10:41 PM


"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
. com...
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed many

key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's priorities

are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special

interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million
"Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen a

highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a widening

that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for 15
to

20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And thanks

to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his willingness
to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also includes

$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island -- "they
reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5 million
for

a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the final

passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that the
House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of New

Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The

biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker. Meanwhile,

"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage."
Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for [the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers even the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued policies

that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access to

this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy
legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas
producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing

orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the energy

bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total of
$88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill."
Despite


these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in the

short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign oil." A

2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas
prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the "bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average

Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The
credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year and

doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election
cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety percent
of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high medical

bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have shot
to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health
insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will make it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such

episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq

supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints. Though the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal with

the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major cash

for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent corporations. At

the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for the

wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George

Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around
paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that do
not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical malpractice
cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and look at

the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The legislation

has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account for
less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by a

measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would "disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes. According
to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while at
the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed
projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once

again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all
together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not
counted.


It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice, keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or not
be true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and all
you can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among
right-wing nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken



Seems to be what passes for "dialog" among Left-wing nitwits also.



P. Fritz August 2nd 05 10:57 PM


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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio

address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed

many
key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's

priorities
are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative

initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special
interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent

to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million
"Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen a
highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a widening
that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for 15
to
20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And

thanks
to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his willingness
to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also includes
$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with

Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island -- "they
reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5 million
for
a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the final
passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that the
House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of New
Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The
biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker.

Meanwhile,
"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage."
Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for

[the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers even

the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued policies
that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access to
this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under

real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy
legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas
producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing
orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the

energy
bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total of
$88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill."
Despite

these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in the
short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign oil."

A
2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information

Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas
prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the

"bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average
Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The
credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year and
doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election
cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in

bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety

percent
of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high medical
bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have shot
to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health
insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will make

it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such
episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq
supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints. Though

the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal

with
the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major

cash
for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent corporations.

At
the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for the
wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George
Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around
paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not

paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that do
not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical malpractice
cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and look

at
the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The

legislation
has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account for
less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by a
measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would

"disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes. According
to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while at
the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed
projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of

overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once
again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all
together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not
counted.

It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice, keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or

not
be true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and all
you can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among
right-wing nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken



Seems to be what passes for "dialog" among Left-wing nitwits also.


Note how he didn't include his sig line on the last post............typical
liebral......whining about others doing what they themselves are guilty of.







*JimH* August 2nd 05 11:21 PM


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio

address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed

many
key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's

priorities
are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative

initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special
interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress sent

to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million
"Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen a
highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a
widening
that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for
15
to
20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and
a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And

thanks
to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his
willingness
to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also
includes
$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with

Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island -- "they
reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5 million
for
a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the final
passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that the
House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of New
Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The
biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker.

Meanwhile,
"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage."
Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for

[the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers even

the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued
policies
that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access
to
this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under

real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy
legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in
new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas
producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing
orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the

energy
bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total of
$88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill."
Despite

these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in
the
short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign oil."

A
2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information

Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas
prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the

"bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average
Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The
credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year
and
doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election
cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in

bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety

percent
of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high
medical
bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have
shot
to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health
insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will make

it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such
episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq
supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints. Though

the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal

with
the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major

cash
for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent corporations.

At
the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for the
wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George
Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and
operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around
paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not

paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that
do
not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical malpractice
cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and look

at
the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The

legislation
has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account for
less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by a
measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would

"disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes.
According
to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while
at
the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate
but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed
projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of

overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once
again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all
together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to
the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not
counted.

It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice,
keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or

not
be true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and
all
you can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among
right-wing nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken



Seems to be what passes for "dialog" among Left-wing nitwits also.


Note how he didn't include his sig line on the last
post............typical
liebral......whining about others doing what they themselves are guilty
of.



Yep.

For those who missed it (or so you don't have to go back to find it), here
it is:
-------------------
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.
----------------------

How nice of you Peter.

BTW Peter: Once the name calling begins your credibility drops to zero and
shows your inability to carry on a discussion of the issues at hand.



P. Fritz August 2nd 05 11:29 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
. com...
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
. com...
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On 1 Aug 2005 10:48:39 -0700, wrote:

A Year of Accomplishment for Special Interests

As he headed to his ranch in Crawford for the month of August,
President Bush gave himself a pat on the back. On his radio

address
Saturday, Bush said, "this year Congress and I have addressed

many
key
priorities." The only problem is, this administration's

priorities
are
different from your priorities. Every major legislative

initiative
signed by the president this year has been a boon to special
interests,
but ignored the real needs of the American people.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- HIGHWAY BILL: On Friday, Congress

sent
to
President Bush a six-year $286.5 billion highway bill which

was
overflowing with wasteful pork spending. Take the $25 million
"Bridge
to Nowhere," connecting two South Carolina towns with a

combined
population of 2,000. Or the $95 million appropriated to widen

a
highway
in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac counties in Wisconsin -- "a
widening
that
the state Department of Transportation says is unnecessary for
15
to
20
years and that legislators approved after bypassing the DOT

and
a
commission charged with developing major road projects." And

thanks
to
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), known as "Uncle Ted" for his
willingness
to
spoil his constituents with pork projects, the bill also
includes
$200
million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with

Gravina
Island (currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island --

"they
reach
Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride") and $1.5

million
for
a
single bus stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- CAFTA: President Bush hailed the

final
passage
of the Central American Free Trade Agreement by saying that

the
House
"has acted to advance America's economic and national security
interests by passing the CAFTA-DR agreement." But the combined
economies of the six other CAFTA nations "only equal that of

New
Haven,
Conn." and "account for barely one percent of U.S. trade." The
biggest
winners in the so-called CAFTA victory are the drug and
telecommunications industries, not the American worker.

Meanwhile,
"the
Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility with tax cuts

and
unnecessary spending priorities has crippled our ability to

help
workers retrain and compete on the international stage."
Furthermore,
President Bush "has tightened the eligibility requirements for

[the
Trade Adjustment Assistance program], denying many workers

even
the
modest resources available under that program," "pursued
policies
that
leave many workers who qualify for TAA benefits without access
to
this
program," and essentially taken the safety net out from under

real
workers with real families directly affected by CAFTA.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- ENERGY BILL: Next up was energy
legislation
that lavished the fossil-fuel industries with $515 million in
new
subsidies, including "$125 million to reimburse oil and gas
producers
for 115% of the costs of remediating, reclaiming, and closing
orphaned
wells." The House managed to add $35 billion of pork to the

energy
bill
in just the last three weeks before it was passed - "a total

of
$88.9
billion in subsidies to industry over 10 years in the bill."
Despite

these handouts, Congress admits the bill will "do nothing in
the
short
term to drive down high gasoline and other energy prices or
significantly reduce America's growing reliance on foreign

oil."
A
2004
analysis by the administration's Energy Information

Administration
found that the Bush-backed energy bill will actually raise gas
prices
and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent by 2010.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- BANKRUPTCY BILL: Then came the

"bankruptcy
reform" monstrosity, which made it more difficult for average
Americans
suffering from financial misfortune to declare bankruptcy. The
credit
card industry, which took in $30 billion in profits last year
and
doled
out more than $7.8 million to candidates in the 2004 election
cycle,
lobbied relentlessly for the bill, pushing the fiction that
bankruptcies occur because of "irresponsible consumerism" (in

bill
sponsor Charles Grassley's (R-IA) words). In fact, "ninety

percent
of
all bankruptcies are triggered by the loss of a job, high
medical
bills
or divorce." In recent years, personal bankruptcy rates have
shot
to
record highs amid a weak labor market and declining health
insurance
coverage. The bill created several "new hurdles" that will

make
it
harder and more expensive for Americans to recover from such
episodes,
while failing to stop the actual abuses that plague the

system.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL: Even the Iraq
supplemental
spending was covered with special interest fingerprints.

Though
the
bills were passed without any provisions to hold the White

House
accountable for its flailing Iraq strategy, and failed to deal

with
the
equipment shortfalls plaguing our troops, they did offer major

cash
for
questionable contracts and corrupt and incompetent

corporations.
At
the
same time, the Pentagon has pursued "back-door budgeting for

the
wars."
Gordon Adams, director of security policy studies at George
Washington
University, referenced "reduced training, exercises and
operating
tempo, slowdowns in maintenance, [and] delays on maintaining
facilities" as ways that the Pentagon has tried to get around
paying
for the bloated war costs. Other strategies appear to be not

paying
soldiers what they are owed and deducting money for debts that
do
not
even exist.

FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS -- TORT REFORM: And finally, there was

the
so-called "tort reform" legislation, pushed by conservatives

who
claimed "the prospect of big jury awards in medical

malpractice
cases
was causing insurance rates to soar and doctors to abandon

their
practices." If you scrape away the overheated rhetoric and

look
at
the
reality, however, a very different picture emerges. The

legislation
has
no real effect on the cost of health ca the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office found malpractice costs account

for
less
than 2 percent of health care spending, and that capping

medical
malpractice would affect private health insurance premiums by

a
measly
one half of 1 percent. Moreover, the caps would

"disproportionately
affect" children and seniors who live on fixed incomes.
According
to
the CBO, it also would "undermine incentives for safety" while
at
the
same time making it "harder for some patients with legitimate
but
difficult claims to find legal representation."

Thank God none of that money went to any Democrat developed
projects,
right?

I love the misdirectional spin of the liebrals............wrt

tort
reform.....while malpractice awards may only amount to 2% of

overall
healthcare spending, the cost of defending suits, as well as

the
countless
unneeded test etc ordered to avoid malpractice suits is
overwhelming........leave it to the liebrals to argue once
again...."it's
for the children" YAWN


Read the article before responding. Malpractice *costs* - all
together -
are less than 2%, not just malpractice awards.

--
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.


A lot more than 2%. Lots of tests are now specified when going to
the
doctor or the hospital to avoid malpractice suits. These are not
counted.

It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice,
keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of

malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like

himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or

not
be true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and
all
you can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among
right-wing nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken



Seems to be what passes for "dialog" among Left-wing nitwits also.


Note how he didn't include his sig line on the last
post............typical
liebral......whining about others doing what they themselves are guilty
of.



Yep.

For those who missed it (or so you don't have to go back to find it), here
it is:
-------------------
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.
----------------------

How nice of you Peter.

BTW Peter: Once the name calling begins your credibility drops to zero

and
shows your inability to carry on a discussion of the issues at hand.


My comment was a twist of his sig line and he calls me a nitwit moron....he
obviously "got it" because he removed his sig line...........I think he
should look in a mirror.






Bill McKee August 3rd 05 12:59 AM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:


For those who missed it (or so you don't have to go back to find it),
here it is:
-------------------
Peter Aitken
Supporting literacy lessons for conservatives.
----------------------

How nice of you Peter.

BTW Peter: Once the name calling begins your credibility drops to zero
and shows your inability to carry on a discussion of the issues at hand.


I just love it when right-wing scum like Hertvik, Fritz, McKee, Robbins,
et al, start speaking out on "name calling."


We learned it from you. Oh Master of the inane.



Peter Aitken August 3rd 05 01:03 AM

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
. com...


snipped

It is not just the tests themselves, but the way doctors practice, keep
records, staffing, etc etc. And then throw in the cost of malpractice
insurance.

Peter needs to support reading comprehension for liebrals like himself


You really are a moron, aren't you? You have made a claim that may or not
be true - I do not know one way or the other. I ask for evidence and all
you can do is call names. This is what passes for "dialog" among
right-wing nitwits.


--
Peter Aitken


Seems to be what passes for "dialog" among Left-wing nitwits also.


Are you serious? Is this the most intelligent response you could come up
with? Are you interested in the issues or in high-school "gotcha?"

Jesus H. Christ, and these people are allowed to vote.


--
Peter Aitken




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