On Sat, 22 May 2004 14:16:49 GMT, wrote:

It is a lost cause... A few people here just use this as their own
playground, and the topic of cleaning up comes up every few months.

Actually, the topic is brought up more on a weekly basis.

In the end, the only comments you will receive are around "Well, YOU
seem to be posting off topic,

Oh, I see plenty of people who agree with the complaints about off
topic posts.

or What about YOU...."

Well, that's a valid question to the complainers. What have they done
to improve the group? How many on topic posts have they made before
complaining?

Well, I think it's kinda rude for these folks to jump up and tell the
majority of posters here to stfu. Heck, take a little personal
responsibility before trying to make everyone else change. Use a
filter. Have a little will power and not read the posts you find
offensive. It's not that hard to spot the off topic posts, or those
who consistently have nothing but vinegar to spew.

I suspect new ones come in, see the
mess, and leave.

That's how things work. All groups can't be all things to all people.
This group is what it is and it's not going to change because some
newby stumbles on in and doesn't like the dynamics of the group. If
it did change to satisfy the newby, the next newby to stumble on in
wouldn't like what they found and would want things to change to
satisfy their view of what rec.boats should be.

It is what it is. If you don't like what's here, and can't modify
your own behavior so you get something positive from it, it's best to
keep looking among the other 30,000 or so groups to choose from.

bb

bb wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2004 14:16:49 GMT, wrote:


It is a lost cause... A few people here just use this as their own
playground, and the topic of cleaning up comes up every few months.


Actually, the topic is brought up more on a weekly basis.


In the end, the only comments you will receive are around "Well, YOU
seem to be posting off topic,


Oh, I see plenty of people who agree with the complaints about off
topic posts.


or What about YOU...."


Well, that's a valid question to the complainers. What have they done
to improve the group? How many on topic posts have they made before
complaining?



Very few if any. Most of the whiners want to suck down whatever
knowledge there may be here about boats, without donating anything they
know, assuming tney know anything worth knowing. Which is doubtful,
since they don't contribute, for the most part.

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
bb wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2004 14:16:49 GMT, wrote:


It is a lost cause... A few people here just use this as their own
playground, and the topic of cleaning up comes up every few months.


Actually, the topic is brought up more on a weekly basis.


In the end, the only comments you will receive are around "Well, YOU
seem to be posting off topic,


Oh, I see plenty of people who agree with the complaints about off
topic posts.


or What about YOU...."


Well, that's a valid question to the complainers. What have they done
to improve the group? How many on topic posts have they made before
complaining?



Very few if any. Most of the whiners want to suck down whatever
knowledge there may be here about boats, without donating anything they
know, assuming tney know anything worth knowing. Which is doubtful,
since they don't contribute, for the most part.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:01:29 -0400, "Jay" wrote:

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j

Nothing wrong with that. Nobody was born knowing about boats, and
none of us know it all (I'm being humble here). There's lots of good
information available on rec.boats.

bb

There is nothing new under the sun, so they say. The same is true for
wrecked boats. Every boating subject has been hashed and rehashed a dozen
times. Therefore, if you need info, do a google search on the subject wanted
on rec.boats and read the results, therefore avoiding the remarks of a few
incredibly ignorant people.
Gordon

"bb" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:01:29 -0400, "Jay" wrote:

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j

Nothing wrong with that. Nobody was born knowing about boats, and
none of us know it all (I'm being humble here). There's lots of good
information available on rec.boats.

bb

Gordon wrote:

There is nothing new under the sun, so they say. The same is true for
wrecked boats. Every boating subject has been hashed and rehashed a dozen
times. Therefore, if you need info, do a google search on the subject wanted
on rec.boats and read the results, therefore avoiding the remarks of a few
incredibly ignorant people.
Gordon

"bb" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:01:29 -0400, "Jay" wrote:


Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j

Nothing wrong with that. Nobody was born knowing about boats, and
none of us know it all (I'm being humble here). There's lots of good
information available on rec.boats.

bb





You're right, Gordon...I've been reading some of your recent
boating-oriented posts here and I found...well, I didn't find anything
of interest.

bb wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:01:29 -0400, "Jay" wrote:

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j

Nothing wrong with that. Nobody was born knowing about boats, and
none of us know it all (I'm being humble here).


Calif Bill THINKS he does! Just ask him!!

On 24 May 2004 11:55:19 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:


Calif Bill THINKS he does! Just ask him!!

Yeah, well, Calif Bill thinks he's a democrat also.

bb

bb wrote:

On 24 May 2004 11:55:19 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:



Calif Bill THINKS he does! Just ask him!!


Yeah, well, Calif Bill thinks he's a democrat also.

bb



Yeah, that's the silliest part of his reactionary posturing. A Democrat
votes for mostly Democratic Party candidates at every level. A
Republican votes for only Republican candidates at every level. In the
last eight years, one wonders how many Democrats Bill has voted for...
My guess is he's voted straight GOP.

Jay wrote:

Everybody's gotta start somewhere.. that's one of the reasons *I* started
using this group.. ; )

-j


"


Well, good. Stay in the water...it's just wet!