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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
I would think that the person you are talking about would love
to
get
a
copy
of this post and thread to his lawyer.

Shame on you for spreading rumors about someone without any
basis
of
fact
Chuck.


Great idea. If you know who it is, why not send him one?
If you don't, then it would appear that there isn't sufficient
information in the post to identify anyone, right?

In fact, the only people who would know who the post referred to
would
be people who had seen the specific photograph and who happen to
know
the individual it appears to depict. That photo exists without my
comment upon it- and as I said I do hope that if the guy is
married
it's to the woman on the foredeck. That goes for any man
shirtless
man
photographed on a boat with a shapely young woman in a bathing
suit.

So sue me. :-)

I'm so glad to see that you subscribe to a standard opposed to
making
statements about people without any basis in fact.



Are you saying you would like for me to send a copy of your post
via
email
to the dozen or so greater Seattle boat dealers who do not sell
Bayliners,
or are you saying that you made a mistake in posting this?

I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would
not
want
to
be sent?


Fire away, JimH.

I stated that the party on the cover is either an individual
associated
with a non-Bayliner dealership or a dead ringer for that person- and
it
is.

I stated that if it is the individual it appears to be, there is a
good
chance he did not know he was being photographed in a competitor's
boat. I stated that if the gentleman did not know he was being
photogrpahed, I certainly hope that if he is married it is to the
woman
in the bathing suit on the foredeck.

Let's see- first you hope I get sued for slander

Where did I say that Chuck? A lie and an exaggeration.


..............and you now suggest
that my comments be sent to every non-Bayliner dealer in the area?

Nope, all I asked is if you would approve of it being sent and being
proud
of what you said. Again, more lies and exaggerations on your
part...but
not
surprising.

Are
you OK today? No fever, or anything, I hope?


I am fine. I am not the one starting girlie gossips about a boat
dealership
owner/executive I know and work with. I am also not in the boating
business
nor do I do rely on relationships with boat dealership owners in the
Seattle
area with my business.



Question: Who has been damaged by the observation and my comments in
this thread? What is the party's name? What boat dealership or
product
line is he associated with? What remarks were made that would
reflect
in any way on persons or firms not depicted in the photo?

Just because you consider me a major asshole, that doesn't mean that
a
post carefully crafted to *avoid* specfically identifying the person
by
name has done anybody any harm. People who see the cover shot and
know
the individual it appears to feature may draw the same amused
conclusion as I have- others will wonder who it is, just as you are
doing, and if they don't know who it is- or appears to be- they
won't
hear the name from me.


I repeat my original question Chuck, a question you never answered:

"I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would not
want
to
be sent?"

Seems like a simple enough question for you to answer.


I thought "fire away" would have been plain enough for you.

There is nothing in any portion of this thread that identifies a
specific individual or business. If I had said "Joe Blow of Joe Blow
Watercraft appears to be on the cover of a competing magazine piloting
a brand of boat he doesn't sell, and as far as I know he's screwing
around on his wife,"
you'd have an issue. But I didn't, you don't, and there's nothing to
apologize for because I have not damaged anybody. The post reports a
funny situation, without identifying the individual invovled any more
specifically than the fact that he is not a Bayliner dealer. As the
original post states, there's also a chance it could just be a dead
ringer for the individual in question, (which would almost make it even
funnier). There's nothing to retract.

If the answer still seem obscure, let me know.


I figured that a spin such as the one you posted would be your final
answer.
Fair enough.

Facts: The publication in question is regional (as you stated). However
you chose to make it an international story by posting it to this
NG......and you posted your name (and reputation) to it by posting it
here.....bad call Chuck. Real bad call.

But at least we now know where you stand on spreading rumors about folks
that you work with that could ruin their life.

What a guy you are!


Round and round we go.

Please provide a straight answer here. Who is the "rumor" about?


As you surmised so would the person him/herself as would the many of the
boat dealership salespersons and executives in your area.

In
order to "ruin a life" one would have to know which life to ruin,
correct?

Yep. See my earlier comment.

If the *story* were kept to the magazine cover the *story* would be for the
regional reader to imagine and the responsibility of the magazine that
published it. You, however, narrowed the subject matter to a local Seattle
dealership executive who did not deal with Bayliners and then made the
allegation that the guy was perhaps cheating on his wife. ....a pretty
broad leap and (legally) a potentially damaging post. To make matters
worse you admitted that you have nothing to base your allegations on other
than rumor and assumptions....yet you made the allegations in a public NG
for the world to see.

OMG

You have set yourself up for one hell of a lawsuit Chuck. Rest assured
however that I will not be the origin of it, although I certainly can.

Think next time you post. Your initial post could indeed ruin a life and a
marriage.

Spin it any way you want....but I again say............shame on you Chuck.