JimH,

Don't take any of the crap in here seriously. Sometimes I think you take it
way too seriously.

This is mindless entertainment.

Harry cut and pasting articles so he can pick fights with conservatives.

Kevin missing 3/4 of what is going on, living in a fog.

Chuck pretending this is serious discussion, trying to pretend he is not in
the mud with the rest of us.

I would not let anything anyone said in here upset you.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:45:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


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*JimH* wrote:
I would think that the person you are talking about would love
to
get
a
copy
of this post and thread to his lawyer.

Shame on you for spreading rumors about someone without any
basis
of
fact
Chuck.


Great idea. If you know who it is, why not send him one?
If you don't, then it would appear that there isn't sufficient
information in the post to identify anyone, right?

In fact, the only people who would know who the post referred to
would
be people who had seen the specific photograph and who happen to
know
the individual it appears to depict. That photo exists without my
comment upon it- and as I said I do hope that if the guy is
married
it's to the woman on the foredeck. That goes for any man
shirtless
man
photographed on a boat with a shapely young woman in a bathing
suit.

So sue me. :-)

I'm so glad to see that you subscribe to a standard opposed to
making
statements about people without any basis in fact.



Are you saying you would like for me to send a copy of your post
via
email
to the dozen or so greater Seattle boat dealers who do not sell
Bayliners,
or are you saying that you made a mistake in posting this?

I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would
not
want
to
be sent?


Fire away, JimH.

I stated that the party on the cover is either an individual
associated
with a non-Bayliner dealership or a dead ringer for that person- and
it
is.

I stated that if it is the individual it appears to be, there is a
good
chance he did not know he was being photographed in a competitor's
boat. I stated that if the gentleman did not know he was being
photogrpahed, I certainly hope that if he is married it is to the
woman
in the bathing suit on the foredeck.

Let's see- first you hope I get sued for slander

Where did I say that Chuck? A lie and an exaggeration.


..............and you now suggest
that my comments be sent to every non-Bayliner dealer in the area?

Nope, all I asked is if you would approve of it being sent and being
proud
of what you said. Again, more lies and exaggerations on your
part...but
not
surprising.

Are
you OK today? No fever, or anything, I hope?


I am fine. I am not the one starting girlie gossips about a boat
dealership
owner/executive I know and work with. I am also not in the boating
business
nor do I do rely on relationships with boat dealership owners in the
Seattle
area with my business.



Question: Who has been damaged by the observation and my comments in
this thread? What is the party's name? What boat dealership or
product
line is he associated with? What remarks were made that would
reflect
in any way on persons or firms not depicted in the photo?

Just because you consider me a major asshole, that doesn't mean that
a
post carefully crafted to *avoid* specfically identifying the person
by
name has done anybody any harm. People who see the cover shot and
know
the individual it appears to feature may draw the same amused
conclusion as I have- others will wonder who it is, just as you are
doing, and if they don't know who it is- or appears to be- they
won't
hear the name from me.


I repeat my original question Chuck, a question you never answered:

"I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would not
want
to
be sent?"

Seems like a simple enough question for you to answer.


I thought "fire away" would have been plain enough for you.

There is nothing in any portion of this thread that identifies a
specific individual or business. If I had said "Joe Blow of Joe Blow
Watercraft appears to be on the cover of a competing magazine piloting
a brand of boat he doesn't sell, and as far as I know he's screwing
around on his wife,"
you'd have an issue. But I didn't, you don't, and there's nothing to
apologize for because I have not damaged anybody. The post reports a
funny situation, without identifying the individual invovled any more
specifically than the fact that he is not a Bayliner dealer. As the
original post states, there's also a chance it could just be a dead
ringer for the individual in question, (which would almost make it even
funnier). There's nothing to retract.

If the answer still seem obscure, let me know.


I figured that a spin such as the one you posted would be your final
answer.
Fair enough.

Facts: The publication in question is regional (as you stated). However
you chose to make it an international story by posting it to this
NG......and you posted your name (and reputation) to it by posting it
here.....bad call Chuck. Real bad call.

But at least we now know where you stand on spreading rumors about folks
that you work with that could ruin their life.

What a guy you are!


Jim, you're starting to sound a lot like Kevin with this stuff.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

That is the 2nd time you said that (or something similar). Are you going
to go for a 3rd John?

I am entitled to my opinion and I stated it. Chuck is as guilty as I am
for drawing the stupid discussion out to the point that he did.

End of story for me....go ahead Chuck.....you always have to have the last
word.

Harry,
You are correct, but they do know my comments about you are very accurate.
Everyone, including those who agree with your position on issues, know you
have a real problem with the truth.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
JimH,

Don't take any of the crap in here seriously.

Indeed, Smithers. That's why no one in here should take you seriously.

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
You are correct, but they do know my comments about you are very accurate.
Everyone, including those who agree with your position on issues, know you
have a real problem with the truth.

The funny thing is that you can go back 6-7 years and find posts pointing
out harry's lies..........it is a real sickness with him, and progressively
getting worse.




"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
JimH,

Don't take any of the crap in here seriously.

Indeed, Smithers. That's why no one in here should take you seriously.

Harry,
Why do you spend so much time trying to make up a imaginary persona in
rec.boats?

I see you are now going for the nicer sweeter Harry who takes care of
animals. That is much more becoming.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:
"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
You are correct, but they do know my comments about you are very
accurate.
Everyone, including those who agree with your position on issues, know
you
have a real problem with the truth.

The funny thing is that you can go back 6-7 years and find posts pointing
out harry's lies..........it is a real sickness with him, and
progressively
getting worse.


Shouldn't you be meeting with your self-help friends, Paul, trying to find
out where you went wrong as a husband and father?

Harry,
I only have one ID, this is me and has always been me.

Did you see where Kevin thinks only an idiot would make up a story about
being a Dr. Dr.?



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Why do you spend so much time trying to make up a imaginary persona in
rec.boats?

You're the expert in that area, dip. How many IDs have you used in here to
date? 60?

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
Why do you spend so much time trying to make up a imaginary persona in
rec.boats?

Poor harry is projecting his own shortcomings again.


I see you are now going for the nicer sweeter Harry who takes care of
animals. That is much more becoming.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:
"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
You are correct, but they do know my comments about you are very
accurate.
Everyone, including those who agree with your position on issues, know
you
have a real problem with the truth.

The funny thing is that you can go back 6-7 years and find posts
pointing
out harry's lies..........it is a real sickness with him, and
progressively
getting worse.


Shouldn't you be meeting with your self-help friends, Paul, trying to
find
out where you went wrong as a husband and father?

Harry,

You and everyone else have always known who I am, so obviously I have only
one ID.

When you change your nick to hkrause or h_krause and many other spin-offs
were you changing your ID? Of course not, everyone knew who you were. The
same with me any my nicks, they are always me.

Now when you changed your name to a fictious boater on the Chesapeake and
carried on a online conversation between Harry Krause and this new fictious
boater. This new person in rec.boats loved Harry Krause's Lobster Boat.
It just looked so great.

Too bad you didn't realize you and your fake sock puppet had the exact same
IP.

Now that is using a fake ID. and you used it very poorly. ; )






"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
I only have one ID, this is me and has always been me.

Liar. You use multiple IDs in this newsgroup. Probably 50 at least.

What about the guy you made up so you could try to "prove" you owned a
Lobster Boat? You know they guy who was using your computer to chat with
you in rec.boats. ; )

I love the way you post pictures of YoHo, but the infamous Lobster Boat is
never seen.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,

You and everyone else have always known who I am, so obviously I have
only one ID.

The boring boor?

Sorry, your dog won't hunt. You have used about 50 different IDs in here.
For you to claim something contrary is a lie.

Harry,
Do you think anyone in rec.boats believes any of your lies? You are
struggling to hold onto a tale that has died a long time ago. Give it up.
It will make you feel better to fess up to your sins. ; )


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:

I love the way you post pictures of YoHo, but the infamous Lobster Boat
is never seen.


I'm glad you love it.

I'm also glad that my refusal to post certain photos so aggravates so many
of you dipsticks.

By the way, I also have not posted photos of my canoe, my old motor
scooter, my even older sports cars, my everyday car, my wife's car, my
Maryland house, my Florida house, the commercial property we own, my bank
pin numbers or even my pets. Too bad, eh?

And I won't. I have, however, posted precise locations from time to time
where said lobster-like boat may be seen. Right now, she's up at a marina
in the Deale, Maryland, area, for a spot of scheduled maintenance.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:27:47 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:45:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
I would think that the person you are talking about would love to
get
a
copy
of this post and thread to his lawyer.

Shame on you for spreading rumors about someone without any basis
of
fact
Chuck.


Great idea. If you know who it is, why not send him one?
If you don't, then it would appear that there isn't sufficient
information in the post to identify anyone, right?

In fact, the only people who would know who the post referred to
would
be people who had seen the specific photograph and who happen to
know
the individual it appears to depict. That photo exists without my
comment upon it- and as I said I do hope that if the guy is
married
it's to the woman on the foredeck. That goes for any man shirtless
man
photographed on a boat with a shapely young woman in a bathing
suit.

So sue me. :-)

I'm so glad to see that you subscribe to a standard opposed to
making
statements about people without any basis in fact.



Are you saying you would like for me to send a copy of your post via
email
to the dozen or so greater Seattle boat dealers who do not sell
Bayliners,
or are you saying that you made a mistake in posting this?

I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would not
want
to
be sent?


Fire away, JimH.

I stated that the party on the cover is either an individual
associated
with a non-Bayliner dealership or a dead ringer for that person- and
it
is.

I stated that if it is the individual it appears to be, there is a
good
chance he did not know he was being photographed in a competitor's
boat. I stated that if the gentleman did not know he was being
photogrpahed, I certainly hope that if he is married it is to the
woman
in the bathing suit on the foredeck.

Let's see- first you hope I get sued for slander

Where did I say that Chuck? A lie and an exaggeration.


..............and you now suggest
that my comments be sent to every non-Bayliner dealer in the area?

Nope, all I asked is if you would approve of it being sent and being
proud
of what you said. Again, more lies and exaggerations on your
part...but
not
surprising.

Are
you OK today? No fever, or anything, I hope?


I am fine. I am not the one starting girlie gossips about a boat
dealership
owner/executive I know and work with. I am also not in the boating
business
nor do I do rely on relationships with boat dealership owners in the
Seattle
area with my business.



Question: Who has been damaged by the observation and my comments in
this thread? What is the party's name? What boat dealership or
product
line is he associated with? What remarks were made that would reflect
in any way on persons or firms not depicted in the photo?

Just because you consider me a major asshole, that doesn't mean that
a
post carefully crafted to *avoid* specfically identifying the person
by
name has done anybody any harm. People who see the cover shot and
know
the individual it appears to feature may draw the same amused
conclusion as I have- others will wonder who it is, just as you are
doing, and if they don't know who it is- or appears to be- they won't
hear the name from me.


I repeat my original question Chuck, a question you never answered:

"I am not saying that I would send the link of your post to the
dealers,
but
asking if you think there was anything you posted that you would not
want
to
be sent?"

Seems like a simple enough question for you to answer.


I thought "fire away" would have been plain enough for you.

There is nothing in any portion of this thread that identifies a
specific individual or business. If I had said "Joe Blow of Joe Blow
Watercraft appears to be on the cover of a competing magazine piloting
a brand of boat he doesn't sell, and as far as I know he's screwing
around on his wife,"
you'd have an issue. But I didn't, you don't, and there's nothing to
apologize for because I have not damaged anybody. The post reports a
funny situation, without identifying the individual invovled any more
specifically than the fact that he is not a Bayliner dealer. As the
original post states, there's also a chance it could just be a dead
ringer for the individual in question, (which would almost make it even
funnier). There's nothing to retract.

If the answer still seem obscure, let me know.


I figured that a spin such as the one you posted would be your final
answer.
Fair enough.

Facts: The publication in question is regional (as you stated). However
you chose to make it an international story by posting it to this
NG......and you posted your name (and reputation) to it by posting it
here.....bad call Chuck. Real bad call.

But at least we now know where you stand on spreading rumors about folks
that you work with that could ruin their life.

What a guy you are!


Jim, you're starting to sound a lot like Kevin with this stuff.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

That is the 2nd time you said that (or something similar). Are you going to
go for a 3rd John?

I am entitled to my opinion and I stated it. Chuck is as guilty as I am for
drawing the stupid discussion out to the point that he did.

End of story for me....go ahead Chuck.....you always have to have the last
word.


I don't think I made the same, or similar, comment to the *same* post. As you
say, I am entitled to my opinion and I stated it.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD