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What is the White House hiding NOW?
According to JimH's analogy, this is on topic, because it may be of
concern to someone who owns a boat!!! White House won't let Democrats look at some of Roberts' writings Paul Richter, Los Angeles Times Monday, July 25, 2005 Printable Version Email This Article Washington -- Defying Senate Democrats, the Bush administration will withhold some documents written by Supreme Court nominee John Roberts while he worked for earlier Republican administrations, advisers to the White House said Sunday. The documents, written while Roberts worked in President Ronald Reagan's White House and President George H.W. Bush's Justice Department, will be withheld on grounds of attorney-client privilege, they said on Sunday news shows. But some Democratic senators disputed the need to keep them secret, and argued that precedent suggests they should be released. Roberts, 50, worked in the Reagan White House counsel's office from 1982- 86. He served in the Justice Department of the first President Bush as principal deputy solicitor general. Fred Thompson, a lawyer, actor and former Republican senator who is advising the nominee, said that releasing documents written while Roberts was deputy solicitor general would bring to light "internal documents, memos about ongoing recommendations and positions." He compared them to privileged conversations with a priest, a physician or a spouse. "There are lots of good reasons why (making them public) is a bad idea," Thompson said on NBC's "Meet the Press." Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, appearing on three of the Sunday news shows, warned that releasing internal documents written by Justice Department lawyers "does chill communications between line attorneys and their superiors within the Department of Justice." On "Fox News Sunday" he characterized the documents as "very sensitive, very deliberative information, not something that the administration or any White House would be inclined to share, because it is so sensitive." Thompson, who served three decades ago as the chief counsel to the Republicans on the Senate Watergate Committee, contended that leaders in both parties, from "(Watergate special prosecutor) Archibald Cox on down," have believed that such documents should be withheld. But Sen. Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, disputed that there was a lawyer-client privilege. "It's a total red herring to say, oh, we can't show this," he said on ABC's "This Week." He said Chief Justice William Rehnquist, former federal appeals court judge Robert Bork, former Attorney General Edwin Meese III and others had given up documents written while they worked for the Justice Department. "Those working in the solicitor general's office are not working for the president," Leahy said. "They're working for you and me, and all the American people." He said there was much precedent for providing such documents. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., appearing on ABC, said he believed the administration might be able to release material written by Roberts when he was in the solicitor general's office, but not when he was in the White House counsel's organization. |
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"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. A special prosecutor will be appointed to investigate Bush and Cheney, they'll be indicted by a federal grand jury, and Bush will have to write on a blackboard 1000 times, "I lied about WMDs and I knew I was lying." Cheney will do the perp walk right out of Halliburton's board room, and be forced to live with a poor Mexican family on the Texas-Mexico border and be forced to shuck corn for a living, his assets having been seized and divided up among the families of those US troops killed in Bush's war. Dream...the impossible dream. |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. A special prosecutor will be appointed to investigate Bush and Cheney, they'll be indicted by a federal grand jury, and Bush will have to write on a blackboard 1000 times, "I lied about WMDs and I knew I was lying." Cheney will do the perp walk right out of Halliburton's board room, and be forced to live with a poor Mexican family on the Texas-Mexico border and be forced to shuck corn for a living, his assets having been seized and divided up among the families of those US troops killed in Bush's war. Dream...the impossible dream. It is more proof that harry is living in an alternate reality and needs psychiatric help. |
HarryKrause wrote: Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. A special prosecutor will be appointed to investigate Bush and Cheney, Not likely. If the R's still held a majority in Congress, a special prosecutor would be appointed the day after her inauguration to plague HC with innuendos and investigate a series of ridiculous, trumped up charges for the rest of her administration. Maybe Ken Starr is still available. (It makes wonderful grist for the right wing hate radio hosts). |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. A special prosecutor will be appointed to investigate Bush and Cheney, they'll be indicted by a federal grand jury, and Bush will have to write on a blackboard 1000 times, "I lied about WMDs and I knew I was lying." Cheney will do the perp walk right out of Halliburton's board room, and be forced to live with a poor Mexican family on the Texas-Mexico border and be forced to shuck corn for a living, his assets having been seized and divided up among the families of those US troops killed in Bush's war. No Harry, after this latest episode in the continuing Muslim war on the rest of us (10-15 years and 2-3 presidents from now) maybe he can then come out with the real reasons for this war. I suspect that even that won't convince you of it's legitimacy. You will just become quiet on this issue when a democrat president continues the same policy. Hopefully the democrat party is moving to the center. The loss of many (13) labor unions to the AFL-CIO because of their support for the democrat party regardless of the political payback means that the democrat party is going to have to work harder for the mainstream support they garnered from the AFL-CIO union. Their policies now have to move center or they are finished as a political party. Because congress has passed legislation that limits new spending, they can't buy the vote, they have to earn it with a rational policy that looks to the LONG term interests of the country. When Hillary becomes president she hopefully, because of what Bush does now, will have the confidence that her private conversations on policy matters with her solicitor general will remain private. |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. No Harry, after this latest episode in the continuing Muslim war on the rest of us (10-15 years and 2-3 presidents from now) maybe he can then come out with the real reasons for this war. I suspect that even that won't convince you of it's legitimacy. You will just become quiet on this issue when a democrat president continues the same policy. Are you saying there are "real" reasons for Bush's war that he hasn't claimed? Jeez...what's left? A military Staging base in the area so that we can respond to threats to the worlds oil as well as threats of state sponsored terrorism. That should be understood by anyone, look at a map. Why do you think we attracted so much fire by being there? Example of a democracy in that region thriving and having on-air (televison and radio news) reports of the happenings in the region not filtered thru a state sponsored station (propaganda). A ready supply of soldiers that will fight for US. Before you scoff at that idea, think of all the children whose parents or siblings have been killed by terrorists. When they grow up they will want revenge against the terrorists. Give them a gun and point them in the right direction. Striking fear into dictatorships in that region and around the world. "Look how easy you can be toppled". etc etc. Hopefully the democrat party is moving to the center. The loss of many (13) labor unions to the AFL-CIO because of their support for the democrat party regardless of the political payback means that the democrat party is going to have to work harder for the mainstream support they garnered from the AFL-CIO union. The unions pulling out temporarily right now are not doing so because of labor support for democrats. There is no AFL-CIO union, by the way. The federation is just that. Individuals are not members of the AFL-CIO. When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. |
Of course. Everyone knows Bush can't spell well enough to write at the
blackboard. ..." Possibly so, but I bet he knows what "is" , is |
Tim wrote: Of course. Everyone knows Bush can't spell well enough to write at the blackboard. ..." Possibly so, but I bet he knows what "is" , is How do you know that? |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: Imagine what will happen when Hillary becomes president. A special prosecutor will be appointed to investigate Bush and Cheney, they'll be indicted by a federal grand jury, and Bush will have to write on a blackboard 1000 times, "I lied about WMDs and I knew I was lying." Cheney will do the perp walk right out of Halliburton's board room, and be forced to live with a poor Mexican family on the Texas-Mexico border and be forced to shuck corn for a living, his assets having been seized and divided up among the families of those US troops killed in Bush's war. No Harry, after this latest episode in the continuing Muslim war on the rest of us (10-15 years and 2-3 presidents from now) maybe he can then come out with the real reasons for this war. I suspect that even that won't convince you of it's legitimacy. You will just become quiet on this issue when a democrat president continues the same policy. I hope you realize my post was made in fun. I really don't expect any self-respecting family of Mexicans to take in a loser like Bush. Are you saying there are "real" reasons for Bush's war that he hasn't claimed? Jeez...what's left? A military Staging base in the area so that we can respond to threats to the worlds oil as well as threats of state sponsored terrorism. That should be understood by anyone, look at a map. Why do you think we attracted so much fire by being there? Example of a democracy in that region thriving and having on-air (televison and radio news) reports of the happenings in the region not filtered thru a state sponsored station (propaganda). Striking fear into dictatorships in that region and around the world. "Look how easy you can be toppled". Hopefully the democrat party is moving to the center. The loss of many (13) labor unions to the AFL-CIO because of their support for the democrat party regardless of the political payback means that the democrat party is going to have to work harder for the mainstream support they garnered from the AFL-CIO union. The unions pulling out temporarily right now are not doing so because of labor support for democrats. There is no AFL-CIO union, by the way. The federation is just that. Individuals are not members of the AFL-CIO. They pulled out because the AFL-CIO was spending too much time supporting an ideology (the democrat left) and not enough time supporting the unions. Membership is down, many of the union members are red state democrats and are more centrist if not decidedly right of the democrat party and they balk at their money being spent on the current democrat party. I expect that the 13 unions that split from the federation of unions will support ANY politition that is good for the union rather than just democrats. Thats as it should be. These 13 unions will probably get more done for the unions than the AFL-CIO does. When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. It's possible for a conservative democrat to win election next term. More than possible I'd say all things being equal. But if the democrats put up another liberal the republicans will win. |
"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
... Are you saying there are "real" reasons for Bush's war that he hasn't claimed? Jeez...what's left? A military Staging base in the area so that we can respond to threats to the worlds oil as well as threats of state sponsored terrorism. That should be understood by anyone, look at a map. Why do you think we attracted so much fire by being there? While this idea is logical, it still doesn't mean Nookular Boy gets a pass for lying about it. It really is insulting when he tries to turn the truth into a fairy tale because the truth is somewhat distasteful. It's like the stories we sometimes concoct for little kids when they ask where someone goes when they die. "They're either put in the ground where the worms eat them, or they're burnt and their ashes go in a jar". That would fly, right? It really should make you sick to your stomach when the president refuses to speak to the citizens of this country like adults. |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. It's possible for a conservative democrat to win election next term. More than possible I'd say all things being equal. But if the democrats put up another liberal the republicans will win. What's a liberal, Jeff? Seriously. Most Americans, and most politicians, are somewhere around the middle. Bush isn't a liberal, but he certainly isn't a conservative, not by the standard definitions. Mrs. Clinton is left of center, but not that far left. The Republican Congress seems to have various litmus tests to determine who is and who is not a conservative. It's a moving target for them, and full of hypocrisy. Our new attorney general is a conservative. He's not a nut case like the last guy, but he is a conservative. But apparently not conservative enough for the congressional conservative nutcases. Yeah, but he's Hispanical, so they will all pretend he's their best friend. :-) Especially Bush. |
What is Hispanical?
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. It's possible for a conservative democrat to win election next term. More than possible I'd say all things being equal. But if the democrats put up another liberal the republicans will win. What's a liberal, Jeff? Seriously. Most Americans, and most politicians, are somewhere around the middle. Bush isn't a liberal, but he certainly isn't a conservative, not by the standard definitions. Mrs. Clinton is left of center, but not that far left. The Republican Congress seems to have various litmus tests to determine who is and who is not a conservative. It's a moving target for them, and full of hypocrisy. Our new attorney general is a conservative. He's not a nut case like the last guy, but he is a conservative. But apparently not conservative enough for the congressional conservative nutcases. Yeah, but he's Hispanical, so they will all pretend he's their best friend. :-) Especially Bush. |
"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
... What is Hispanical? It's one of Bush's invented words. I'm surprised you hadn't lurnt it yet. It's rekwired fer partie membership. Am you a party member? |
Obviously not.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... What is Hispanical? It's one of Bush's invented words. I'm surprised you hadn't lurnt it yet. It's rekwired fer partie membership. Am you a party member? |
Many people think these grammatical horrors are fictional, invented by
people who simply don't like Bush. The party likes to deny he ever said these things. So, this site, which used to include only quotes, now has video as well. Break out the Pepto Bismol, and enjoy the show: http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/ "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... Obviously not. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... What is Hispanical? It's one of Bush's invented words. I'm surprised you hadn't lurnt it yet. It's rekwired fer partie membership. Am you a party member? |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. It's possible for a conservative democrat to win election next term. More than possible I'd say all things being equal. But if the democrats put up another liberal the republicans will win. What's a liberal, Jeff? Seriously. Most Americans, and most politicians, are somewhere around the middle. Bush isn't a liberal, but he certainly isn't a conservative, not by the standard definitions. Mrs. Clinton is left of center, but not that far left. The Republican Congress seems to have various litmus tests to determine who is and who is not a conservative. It's a moving target for them, and full of hypocrisy. Our new attorney general is a conservative. He's not a nut case like the last guy, but he is a conservative. But apparently not conservative enough for the congressional conservative nutcases. Yeah, but he's Hispanical, so they will all pretend he's their best friend. :-) Especially Bush. I get it! Poor John McCain, a real conservative but a pariah among the dumbed-down conservatives of today. Maybe if he became a Hispanical, and changed his name to Carlos McCain the Republicans would like him better. He'd also need to invent a family history involving a dangerous border crossing, followed by time in the landscaping business. |
Doug,
I didn't bother to click the link, because I know he is even worse than his dad with syntax and grammar. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Many people think these grammatical horrors are fictional, invented by people who simply don't like Bush. The party likes to deny he ever said these things. So, this site, which used to include only quotes, now has video as well. Break out the Pepto Bismol, and enjoy the show: http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/ "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... Obviously not. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... What is Hispanical? It's one of Bush's invented words. I'm surprised you hadn't lurnt it yet. It's rekwired fer partie membership. Am you a party member? |
Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Do a google search, idiot. |
Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. |
wrote in message ups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Do a google search, idiot. Why must you constantly insult folks here when replying to them Kevin? |
Kevin,
Wow, I thought Bush was an idiot. Since you pointed this out to me, I now know Harry and Doug are the idiots. Thanks for your help. Dr. Dr. R. Name PS - As a Dr. Dr. I wish you would seek help concerning your FAS and Drug Abuse Problem (DAP) wrote in message oups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. |
Harry,
Did you see where Kevin thinks you are an idiot? I would have thought he would be been nicer to you. "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... wrote: Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. That's interesting. Never heard the term before Bush slaughtered it. My OED has Hispanian, but not Hispanical. |
wrote in message oups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. Not in the 3 dictionaries I have here. And, "online" is pretty much meaningless. |
If you type in Hispanic, there is 20,000,000 hits.
If you type in Hispanical there is 225. In Kevin's mind that makes it the truth. Did you see where Kevin thinks you are an idiot? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. Not in the 3 dictionaries I have here. And, "online" is pretty much meaningless. |
Of course I saw it. Does it matter? :-)
"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... If you type in Hispanic, there is 20,000,000 hits. If you type in Hispanical there is 225. In Kevin's mind that makes it the truth. Did you see where Kevin thinks you are an idiot? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. Not in the 3 dictionaries I have here. And, "online" is pretty much meaningless. |
Harry,
I am not the person who tried to make up an imaginary degree from a college i did not attend. I am happy with my Alma Mater. I did not make up my wife's imaginary degree. I am happy with my wife and her choice of careers. You are the person who tried to use your degree and your wife's degrees as a means of being superior. Aren't you embarrassed in the least bit? "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: Harry, Did you see where Kevin thinks you are an idiot? I would have thought he would be been nicer to you. Yawn. You combine the worst attributes of a bore and a boor. |
Nah ; )
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Of course I saw it. Does it matter? :-) "Mr. R. Name" wrote in message ... If you type in Hispanic, there is 20,000,000 hits. If you type in Hispanical there is 225. In Kevin's mind that makes it the truth. Did you see where Kevin thinks you are an idiot? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Taken directly from an online Literature site: The literature of the Philippines started with fables and legends of pre-colonial Philippines down to the Mexican( New Spain) and Spanish influences, but there was a pre-hispanical Writing System. Not in the 3 dictionaries I have here. And, "online" is pretty much meaningless. |
Harry,
You stated here you received your master degree from Yale. Do a quick Google and you will see where you screwed up. "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: Harry, I am not the person who tried to make up an imaginary degree from a college i did not attend. I'm fairly certain I have never stated here where I received my college degrees. Therefore, all you can do is guess. You guessed wrong. |
I would believe you if you said you received your master mason in New Haven.
But you did not receive your Master's degree from Yale. The only reason this is so funny, is because you wanted everyone to believe you and Bush went to the same school. too cute. "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: Harry, You stated here you received your master degree from Yale. Do a quick Google and you will see where you screwed up. Master degree? Is that like "master mason?" |
Yes, but the Alumni Association will. They have never heard of you.
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: I would believe you if you said you received your master mason in New Haven. But you did not receive your Master's degree from Yale. You have no way of knowing that. No one in the registrar's office at any major university is going to tell you dick without a legitimate authorization. |
Harry,
Let's not forget your story of your wife the MD who used to provide you with medical diagnosis concerning the mental health of regulars in rec.boats. The only problem is the AMA has never heard of your wife, but someone with your wife's name works at the same company as you do, except she is a social worker. Would that be considered a lie, or just an exaggeration? "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: I would believe you if you said you received your master mason in New Haven. But you did not receive your Master's degree from Yale. You have no way of knowing that. No one in the registrar's office at any major university is going to tell you dick without a legitimate authorization. |
Harry,
Well your wife works for the Bricklayers Union as their in house social worker. You work for the Bricklayers Union as a private contractor writing PR pieces for them. PS - just for you I changed my nick again. While my nick changed, my ID didn't. ; ) "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Mr. R. Name wrote: Harry, someone with your wife's name works at the same company as you do, except she is a social worker. Someone with my wife's name works at the same company as I do? B.S. I employ two writers and two graphics artists, and we all share an assistant. None of my employees are related to me. |
Harry,
Your wife is the in house social worker for the bricklayers union. "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Dr. Dr. . R. Name wrote: Harry, You work for the Bricklayers Union as a private contractor writing PR pieces for them. Wrong again, dicquehead. I've had no business relationship with the Bricklayers Union for nearly a decade. So you're wrong about that, too. You should have checked with the alumni office. |
Harry,
She is not a Dr.Dr. or even a Dr. ; ) "Dr. Dr. . R. Name" wrote in message ... Harry, Your wife is the in house social worker for the bricklayers union. "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Dr. Dr. . R. Name wrote: Harry, You work for the Bricklayers Union as a private contractor writing PR pieces for them. Wrong again, dicquehead. I've had no business relationship with the Bricklayers Union for nearly a decade. So you're wrong about that, too. You should have checked with the alumni office. |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: When Hillary becomes president she hopefully That's an interesting comment. I don't see hillary becoming president. But if she runs, I certainly will vote for her. It's possible for a conservative democrat to win election next term. More than possible I'd say all things being equal. But if the democrats put up another liberal the republicans will win. What's a liberal, Jeff? Seriously. To answer that simply, Anyone left of the views held by the majority in this country. And that does shift, it's a moving target. Personally, I believe that anyone who has a good handle on cause and effect and a decent memory is probably a conservative. Among conservatives there are differences ie; Social, Fiscal, Constitutional. Most Americans, and most politicians, are somewhere around the middle. Bush isn't a liberal, but he certainly isn't a conservative, not by the standard definitions. Mrs. Clinton is left of center, but not that far left. The Republican Congress seems to have various litmus tests to determine who is and who is not a conservative. It's a moving target for them, and full of hypocrisy. Our new attorney general is a conservative. He's not a nut case like the last guy, but he is a conservative. But apparently not conservative enough for the congressional conservative nutcases. |
Harry,
I completely agree with you the fact that you wife is a social worker is nothing to be ashamed of. Why were you? "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Dr. Dr. . R. Name wrote: Harry, Your wife is the in house social worker for the bricklayers union. Yawn. |
Dr. Dr. . R. Name wrote: Harry, I completely agree with you the fact that you wife is a social worker is nothing to be ashamed of. Why were you? Get scared and had to change you handle again, huh, you little **** stain? |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Mr. R. Name wrote: What is Hispanical? Do a google search, idiot. Why must you constantly insult folks here when replying to them Kevin? I'm not Kevin |
Mr. R. Name wrote: Harry, I am not the person who tried to make up an imaginary degree from a college i did not attend. Yes you did. You tried to tell people here that you had a PhD in Psychology. I am happy with my Alma Mater. I did not make up my wife's imaginary degree. I am happy with my wife and her choice of careers. Then why did you say SHE too, had a Phd in Psychology? |
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