"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
om...

medical marijuana,

Rumor has it that the DEA is taking a close look at chamomile tea, chicken
soup and apple sauce, which it considers to be indicators of a nasty trend
toward self-medication. I'm hoarding ammunition, just in case. Not sure if I
should tip off my former mother-in-law, who, in the past, had a homemade
apple sauce lab operating in her kitchen. Very bad. She was dealing the
stuff to minors, specifically my son when he was little. I wanted to
complain, but she coerced me to keep quiet by babysitting for free. I was
afraid to say anything to the proper authorities.

Peter Aitken wrote:
You have put your finger on an important point. Most of today's
"conservatives" are not really conservative. Traditional conservative values
include

- Fiscal responsibility.
- Reluctance to send troops overseas unless really justified.
- Competence.
- Honesty.
- Individual responsibility.
- Individual freedoms and rights.


Bullseye! A good post, exactly the kind that infuriates the Bush/Cheney
cheerleaders because there is NO answer...

But I am curious, Peter: since you identify yourself as a left-of-center
moderate, do you disagree with any of the above values?

Regards
Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Peter Aitken wrote:
You have put your finger on an important point. Most of today's
"conservatives" are not really conservative. Traditional conservative
values include

- Fiscal responsibility.
- Reluctance to send troops overseas unless really justified.
- Competence.
- Honesty.
- Individual responsibility.
- Individual freedoms and rights.


Bullseye! A good post, exactly the kind that infuriates the Bush/Cheney
cheerleaders because there is NO answer...

But I am curious, Peter: since you identify yourself as a left-of-center
moderate, do you disagree with any of the above values?

Didn't you see the post about his new boat? He fiscally irresponsible. :-)

But I am curious, Peter: since you identify yourself as a left-of-center
moderate, do you disagree with any of the above values?


Doug Kanter wrote:
Didn't you see the post about his new boat? He fiscally irresponsible. :-)


Oh, right... OOPS!

I've avoided the stigma of 'fiscally irresponsible' because I've never
bought a boat at a cost which exceeded my stock portfolio's capital
gains for the year ;)

Can I be in the club?

DSK

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
om...

medical marijuana,

Rumor has it that the DEA is taking a close look at chamomile tea,
chicken soup and apple sauce, which it considers to be indicators of a
nasty trend toward self-medication. I'm hoarding ammunition, just in
case. Not sure if I should tip off my former mother-in-law, who, in the
past, had a homemade apple sauce lab operating in her kitchen.


How much ammo are you hoarding? I got a "deal" at Natchez some weeks ago,
to go along with a couple of recent purchases.

Ammo's something I always buy from one of the local gun shops. The owner's
done everything possible to keep my business. I like to keep maybe 50,000
rounds of .40 caliber hollow point around the house, just in case. Usually
another 5000 rounds of the cheaper Speer Lawman FMV, for target practice or
neighborhood dogs.

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Three


ROFL! :-)

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Peter Aitken wrote:
You have put your finger on an important point. Most of today's
"conservatives" are not really conservative. Traditional conservative
values include

- Fiscal responsibility.
- Reluctance to send troops overseas unless really justified.
- Competence.
- Honesty.
- Individual responsibility.
- Individual freedoms and rights.


Bullseye! A good post, exactly the kind that infuriates the Bush/Cheney
cheerleaders because there is NO answer...

But I am curious, Peter: since you identify yourself as a left-of-center
moderate, do you disagree with any of the above values?


In the broad sense I agree with all of them. But then one person's
"Individual freedoms and rights" will be different from another person's. I
could argue one position based on "individual freedoms and rights" and
another person could argue the opposite position also based on "individual
freedoms and rights." It's a complicated business, no? At least it is if you
keep your mind open and think about things. The problem with most Bush
supporters - and some liberals too it must be said - is that their mind is
made up and they are unwilling to consider other possibilities. It's easy to
be dogmatic, but not good for anyone.

Peter Aitken


--
Peter Aitken

"Kevin Noble" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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and now am
able to enjoy my first love... teaching. For me, academia is a choice,
not a station of last resort.

11 beers for you. :-) Teachers who like to teach are a precious asset.
What
do you teach?


Hey Doug, did you ever teach your punk son to sober up?


Uh oh. The toilet's backed up again.

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Peter Aitken" wrote in message
om...

medical marijuana,
Rumor has it that the DEA is taking a close look at chamomile tea,
chicken soup and apple sauce, which it considers to be indicators of a
nasty trend toward self-medication. I'm hoarding ammunition, just in
case. Not sure if I should tip off my former mother-in-law, who, in the
past, had a homemade apple sauce lab operating in her kitchen.

How much ammo are you hoarding? I got a "deal" at Natchez some weeks
ago, to go along with a couple of recent purchases.

Ammo's something I always buy from one of the local gun shops. The
owner's done everything possible to keep my business. I like to keep
maybe 50,000 rounds of .40 caliber hollow point around the house, just in
case. Usually another 5000 rounds of the cheaper Speer Lawman FMV, for
target practice or neighborhood dogs.

50,000 rounds ??!!!?`

Just in case of what? Are you expecting a horde of Tuuks?

Harry, go back to my original message, and scroll ALL the way to the end.
:-)

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:04:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..

Maybe, after careful study & deliberation, their decisions are wiser
than
you give them credit for. Many people criticise Justice O'Connor for her
unwillingness to overturn 'Roe vs Wade.'


Justice O'Connor was the progenitor of a number of wise decisions and
she could clearly see beyond pop-politics.

The current terms "liberal" and "conservative" are, in my mind, merely
dogmatic, counterproductive, inaccurate pop-politics terms for groups
for which one either wishes to (1) assign as a reference group or (2)
assign as a group to hate that espouses a belief system of wrong
positions. In popular usage, it makes it easy to separate people out
because there are only two boxes, good guys and bad guys.....
everybody clearly fits in one or the other.

"Counterproductive" is right. Look at my attitudes toward Bush and the war,
and I sound like Abbie Hoffman. Explore my views on guns and law
enforcement, and I sound like a hanging judge. No labels work well.


Sounds to me like she trusts MOST people to make the right decisions for
themselves, with the least amount of government "help". Wait...that sounds
familiar. Isn't that a pillar of conservative thinking?


No, it isn't. It might be an interesting dictionary assignment to look
up "conservative" and see if it means this. Forget the pop-politics
talking points of recent years.

Here's a start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative

Interesting how a certain crowd has latched onto the "less government"
mantra and claimed ownership.

Anyway, I keep maybe a hundred rounds of the fancy .40 cal (because it's
expensive), and couple thousand of the Speer Lawman when I find it on sale
(or when I can find it at all). I'll go through no more than 20-30 rounds a
month. I do more dry fire practice now. Much better for your targeting
acquisition techniques, believe it or not.