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Mr Wizzard July 19th 05 07:38 AM


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.


Is worthless on a boat motor.


Why would that be?



Bill McKee July 19th 05 08:18 AM


"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.


Is worthless on a boat motor.


Why would that be?



You get the big vacuum advance when slowing down. During engine braking.
When do you get this in a boat?



Netsock July 19th 05 01:53 PM


"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.


Is worthless on a boat motor.


Why would that be?


Because water is always level, and the same thickness. There is no long-term
varying load on a boat motor. Boats cant go "uphill"...or even "downhill".

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



nate July 19th 05 02:34 PM

Bill,

I think it is electronic ignition. Does that mean that I need to disconnect
one of the 2 wires that go into the distrubutor when I do the timing?


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...
Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance. Is worthless on a boat
motor. If it has the electronic ignition with computer, there is a wire
to remove the computer induced timing.

"Gudmundur" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

calhoun,

Sorry I left that out. That is a good point It's a 1997. Do I need to
disconnect anything when doing the timing?. The only 2 things I noticed
that were connected to the distributor was 2 wires. I know with both of
them unplugged it doesn't start.

One wire should be the +12vdc 'run' wire, and one should be to the tach.

At the base of the distributor should be a vacuum advance hose, but
some distributors don't have a vacuum advance, only the internal
weighted mechanical advance.

Normally, you remove and plug the advance hose while setting the
timing. If you have vacuum advance, and you didn't remove the hose
when setting your timing, your timing is way off, very late indeed!






Mr Wizzard July 24th 05 06:22 AM


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.


Is worthless on a boat motor.


Why would that be?



You get the big vacuum advance when slowing down. During engine braking.
When do you get this in a boat?


Ah! - good point, I never even thought of that!






Mr Wizzard July 24th 05 05:48 PM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.
Is worthless on a boat motor.
Why would that be?


Because water is always level, and the same thickness. There is no

long-term
varying load on a boat motor. Boats cant go "uphill"...or even

"downhill".



Only an inland boater with no experience on big open water would make
such an idiotic claim.


Hold up mate - I'm not sure calling his statement an
"idiotic claim" is warranted (or correct for that matter)
The idea that he is communicating is that water is
the same thickness, prop is always the same pitch,
and the boat is basically always pretty much level
(static friction, weight, etc) so therefore the torque
load on the motor is pretty much static, and always
the same (assuming that you don't break out into
cavitation often). i.e. in "gear-speak", there is
no "coast" - the drive train is always in "drive".
Further, (his downhill statement), the drivetrain never
has to race up, or "catch up" with an already moving
rotational load.



Water is always level....

Hohohohohohehehehehehahahaha.


So what are you saying here? Swells, chop,
yeah, suspose the boat can bob up/down for
a bit, and a few degrees here, and there, but
that doesn't make it non-level (addressing
basic static resistance). Bobing up/down in
a huge wake, swell, etc., even for short burts
doesn't really even change static resistance
(levelness) in my mind, because at thst point
all you are really doing is rolling fore/aft around
the CG point (center of gravity) of the vessel, no ?








--
Let's pray the United States survives the rest of Bush's term.


"Pray" ? (or maybe "prEy" ? hehe). Hey, lets keep
"Religion" out of Bush's term - isn't that what the
non-Bushies are always whining about anyhow ??




Real Name July 24th 05 05:57 PM

Wiz,
If you are in heavy seas or running an inlet the water is not level. If you
boat on a small lake, for the most part the water, is level.


"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.
Is worthless on a boat motor.
Why would that be?

Because water is always level, and the same thickness. There is no

long-term
varying load on a boat motor. Boats cant go "uphill"...or even

"downhill".



Only an inland boater with no experience on big open water would make
such an idiotic claim.


Hold up mate - I'm not sure calling his statement an
"idiotic claim" is warranted (or correct for that matter)
The idea that he is communicating is that water is
the same thickness, prop is always the same pitch,
and the boat is basically always pretty much level
(static friction, weight, etc) so therefore the torque
load on the motor is pretty much static, and always
the same (assuming that you don't break out into
cavitation often). i.e. in "gear-speak", there is
no "coast" - the drive train is always in "drive".
Further, (his downhill statement), the drivetrain never
has to race up, or "catch up" with an already moving
rotational load.



Water is always level....

Hohohohohohehehehehehahahaha.


So what are you saying here? Swells, chop,
yeah, suspose the boat can bob up/down for
a bit, and a few degrees here, and there, but
that doesn't make it non-level (addressing
basic static resistance). Bobing up/down in
a huge wake, swell, etc., even for short burts
doesn't really even change static resistance
(levelness) in my mind, because at thst point
all you are really doing is rolling fore/aft around
the CG point (center of gravity) of the vessel, no ?








--
Let's pray the United States survives the rest of Bush's term.


"Pray" ? (or maybe "prEy" ? hehe). Hey, lets keep
"Religion" out of Bush's term - isn't that what the
non-Bushies are always whining about anyhow ??






Mr Wizzard July 24th 05 09:02 PM


"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Wiz,
If you are in heavy seas or running an inlet the water is not level. If

you
boat on a small lake, for the most part the water, is level.


Gotcha, thanks for the info.




"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

Marine distributors do not have vacuum advance.
Is worthless on a boat motor.
Why would that be?

Because water is always level, and the same thickness. There is no

long-term
varying load on a boat motor. Boats cant go "uphill"...or even

"downhill".



Only an inland boater with no experience on big open water would make
such an idiotic claim.


Hold up mate - I'm not sure calling his statement an
"idiotic claim" is warranted (or correct for that matter)
The idea that he is communicating is that water is
the same thickness, prop is always the same pitch,
and the boat is basically always pretty much level
(static friction, weight, etc) so therefore the torque
load on the motor is pretty much static, and always
the same (assuming that you don't break out into
cavitation often). i.e. in "gear-speak", there is
no "coast" - the drive train is always in "drive".
Further, (his downhill statement), the drivetrain never
has to race up, or "catch up" with an already moving
rotational load.



Water is always level....

Hohohohohohehehehehehahahaha.


So what are you saying here? Swells, chop,
yeah, suspose the boat can bob up/down for
a bit, and a few degrees here, and there, but
that doesn't make it non-level (addressing
basic static resistance). Bobing up/down in
a huge wake, swell, etc., even for short burts
doesn't really even change static resistance
(levelness) in my mind, because at thst point
all you are really doing is rolling fore/aft around
the CG point (center of gravity) of the vessel, no ?








--
Let's pray the United States survives the rest of Bush's term.


"Pray" ? (or maybe "prEy" ? hehe). Hey, lets keep
"Religion" out of Bush's term - isn't that what the
non-Bushies are always whining about anyhow ??








Real Name July 24th 05 11:50 PM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

On the small lakes where Netscum is able to run his daddy's alleged jet
boat, I am sure the water is relatively flat. Has to be for the kinds of
speeds he is claiming.


Harry,
Why the insults directed towards Netsock? Not everyone has to fabricate
stories to prop (pun intended) up their weak ego.



P. Fritz July 25th 05 02:32 AM


"Real Name" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

On the small lakes where Netscum is able to run his daddy's alleged jet
boat, I am sure the water is relatively flat. Has to be for the kinds

of
speeds he is claiming.


Harry,
Why the insults directed towards Netsock? Not everyone has to fabricate
stories to prop (pun intended) up their weak ego.


What speed did that lobsta boat do?








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