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A Letter to Mankind
A Letter to Mankind
Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org |
rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Out of context excerpts from the Quran are no more indicative of Islam than are the commands of Jehovah to Joshua ("kill all the men, women, children, and beasts of the field when you conquer the city, leave nobody alive....") as detailed in the Old Testament, representative of Judaism or Christianity. Posting crap like yours all over the internet certainly indicates you have a burning desire for peace and reconciliation among all people. Not. |
wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:43:30 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
-- Let's pray the United States survives the rest of Bush's term. ***************** Let's pray your computer doesn't! -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. And, as Chuck stated, the same as the KKK does their nasty deeds for Christ. |
And, as Chuck stated, the same as the KKK does their nasty deeds for
Christ. Falsly in the name of Christ. Nothing "Christian" about the KKK whatsoever |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? From a klan website- (notice the final sentence) Quote: The IKA is a private Christian organization. In the past the KKK received a Charter from US Congress because of our great moral and good Christian behavior. We will continue to love one another of our own race, culture and future no matter what the devil and his world says about us. Much slander and Hollywood drama has nothing to do with the facts. Look where the slander comes from, Foreign Israeli registered and Criminal ADL is the main source of all the information against us. This is a criminal and terrorist organization aligned with the JDL who historically has bombed more places in the United States than any other known group. As the foreign criminal ADL lobbies the Senate and the House to pass more bills and laws, the news media publishes their Slander and Lies to sell more newspapers and get more donations to the ADL, which are all partners in the same crimes against Americans. The media goes to court on telling lies all the time, but in their defense they say they have a First Amendment right to lie on the media. This is what all the Television and Newspaper companies say as they feed you with their lies and more Hollywood fantasy propaganda. The Klan always has to back up what we say with facts, while the media says they have a right to lie and are protected Alien Jew Owners from the international jewish banking cartel who run satan's world and system. We come in the name of THE LORD God JESUS CHRIST, Amen. ****** Question: Why is a criminal terrorist car-bomber professing faith in Allah more representative of all Islam than a bunch of night riding "n****r" lynchers declaring "We come in the name of the Lord God Jesus Christ" representative of all Christianity? Is it because you prefer to assume that the worst possible examples actually typify the behavior of individuals or groups you dislike or distrust? If not, then why? If you don't believe the KKK represents all of Christendom, be slow to believe that the car bombers and other terrorists represent all of Islam. |
On 15 Jul 2005 16:30:04 -0700, " wrote:
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? From a klan website- (notice the final sentence) Quote: The IKA is a private Christian organization. In the past the KKK received a Charter from US Congress because of our great moral and good Christian behavior. We will continue to love one another of our own race, culture and future no matter what the devil and his world says about us. Much slander and Hollywood drama has nothing to do with the facts. Look where the slander comes from, Foreign Israeli registered and Criminal ADL is the main source of all the information against us. This is a criminal and terrorist organization aligned with the JDL who historically has bombed more places in the United States than any other known group. As the foreign criminal ADL lobbies the Senate and the House to pass more bills and laws, the news media publishes their Slander and Lies to sell more newspapers and get more donations to the ADL, which are all partners in the same crimes against Americans. The media goes to court on telling lies all the time, but in their defense they say they have a First Amendment right to lie on the media. This is what all the Television and Newspaper companies say as they feed you with their lies and more Hollywood fantasy propaganda. The Klan always has to back up what we say with facts, while the media says they have a right to lie and are protected Alien Jew Owners from the international jewish banking cartel who run satan's world and system. We come in the name of THE LORD God JESUS CHRIST, Amen. ****** Question: Why is a criminal terrorist car-bomber professing faith in Allah more representative of all Islam than a bunch of night riding "n****r" lynchers declaring "We come in the name of the Lord God Jesus Christ" representative of all Christianity? Is it because you prefer to assume that the worst possible examples actually typify the behavior of individuals or groups you dislike or distrust? If not, then why? If you don't believe the KKK represents all of Christendom, be slow to believe that the car bombers and other terrorists represent all of Islam. Gotta go with ya on this one. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? From a klan website- (notice the final sentence) Quote: The IKA is a private Christian organization. In the past the KKK received a Charter from US Congress because of our great moral and good Christian behavior. We will continue to love one another of our own race, culture and future no matter what the devil and his world says about us. Much slander and Hollywood drama has nothing to do with the facts. Look where the slander comes from, Foreign Israeli registered and Criminal ADL is the main source of all the information against us. This is a criminal and terrorist organization aligned with the JDL who historically has bombed more places in the United States than any other known group. As the foreign criminal ADL lobbies the Senate and the House to pass more bills and laws, the news media publishes their Slander and Lies to sell more newspapers and get more donations to the ADL, which are all partners in the same crimes against Americans. The media goes to court on telling lies all the time, but in their defense they say they have a First Amendment right to lie on the media. This is what all the Television and Newspaper companies say as they feed you with their lies and more Hollywood fantasy propaganda. The Klan always has to back up what we say with facts, while the media says they have a right to lie and are protected Alien Jew Owners from the international jewish banking cartel who run satan's world and system. We come in the name of THE LORD God JESUS CHRIST, Amen. ****** Question: Why is a criminal terrorist car-bomber professing faith in Allah more representative of all Islam than a bunch of night riding "n****r" lynchers declaring "We come in the name of the Lord God Jesus Christ" representative of all Christianity? Is it because you prefer to assume that the worst possible examples actually typify the behavior of individuals or groups you dislike or distrust? If not, then why? If you don't believe the KKK represents all of Christendom, be slow to believe that the car bombers and other terrorists represent all of Islam. So? ------------------------ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm --------------------------- Who knows for sure? Life goes on Chuck. Don't get your shorts in a knot about it. |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? |
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*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? Sign on forehead: Try to be sure brain is in motion before putting mouth or keyboard in gear. Works like this, JimH 1. You offered a quote from a Muslim terrorist, calling upon Allah, as proof that Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west. 2. I disagreed, and offered a quote from the KKK calling on the name of Christ as proof that extremists in *any* faith do not represent the mainstream. How you think that even corresponds to your "bull" post, is way beyond my ability to figure out. |
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On 15 Jul 2005 22:54:21 -0700, " wrote:
wrote: wrote: I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? You are obviously and remarkably ignorant, showing conclusively you know nothing concerning any of these faiths, and foghorning the empty results of your vain imagination. Naw, I wouldn't say I'm all that ignorant but I do admit that I haven't learned the finer points of comparative religion and philosophy from the Rush Limbaugh comedy hour, like so many seem to have done. Perhaps if I pay more careful attention to RW hate radio and less to the Quran I'll learn a lot more about Islam. Riddle me this: If Islam is so fundamentally false and evil, should the passages in the Quran that recognize Jesus as a divine messenger from God, acknowledge Mary and the virgin birth, and acknowledge the miracles and resurrection of Jesus be rejected as false teachings? Was Mohammed wrong to revere the Torah and the Gospels? Is the God professed by Mohammed, (the God of Abraham- the same God that Jews address as Jehovah, Muslims address as Allah, and Christians address as Our Father and a variety of other terms), a false god? Here are a few references to such issues, and from a Christian, not Muslim, site: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/quran-jesus.html Unfortunately for those who seek a simplistic view of the world, Muslim extremists are no more representative of mainstream Islam than the KKK is representative of mainstream Christianity. Spend a little less time hurling insults and calling names, and a little more time studying actual sources- (listening to radio rabble rousers with an agenda doesn't count). You may be surprised at what you can learn. How the hell did Rush Limbaugh get into this? Limbaugh has not, to my knowledge, been down on Islam, per se. He gets down on the Muslim extremists. Your comments so far have rung very truthful. Why interject party affiliations into them? -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? Sign on forehead: Try to be sure brain is in motion before putting mouth or keyboard in gear. Works like this, JimH 1. You offered a quote from a Muslim terrorist, calling upon Allah, as proof that Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west. Really. My quote was proof that "Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west"? Hitting the bottle again Chuckie? It sounds like it. I am getting a bit tired of the way you misrepresent and spin what I *actually* said. This is another of your MO's now, besides the "who, me?" position you normally take when nailed on something. The bull comment was in response to your comment of : "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions." I offered a quote from an actual terrorist suicide bomber who made it clear his main reason was for seeing Allah. It is all about Allah for them. So yes, bull. I am tired of playing your little game Chuckles. Let me know when you will finally stop the lies and spins.....maybe then we can have an honest discussion. |
JimH,
I thought you might want to read some of the Presbyterian Church's thoughts concerning Islam and Muslims. http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/2004/04125.htm http://www.pcusa.org/september11/worship/islam.htm http://www.pcusa.org/listeningproject/ http://www.pcusa.org/pcusa/wmd/eir/muslim.htm From the Presbyterian Church of the United States. Support the search to promote understanding. a.. Get to know and become friends with Muslim neighbors. Plan reciprocal visits, as appropriate. b.. Identify and counteract prejudicial and abusive behavior toward Muslims in your community and our society. c.. Be sensitive to stereotypical characterizations of Islam and Muslims. d.. Consider questions arising from key dialogue issues facing Christians and Muslims. e.. Study about Islam. Support the search for cooperation. a.. Promote relationships and dialogue with Muslims, giving attention to practical, theological, and historical dimensions. b.. Identify common concerns with Muslims. Explore ways to address concerns cooperatively and to engage in joint efforts. c.. Recognize that Muslims' perceptions of the United States' role in the Islamic world often affect their response to Christians. d.. Work together with Muslims for world peace and social justice. e.. As possible, work with Muslims and Jews to find common ethical grounds within our three Abrahamic communities that enable solidarity for justice, peace, and the sustainability of creation. Support the search for faithful witness. a.. Affirm continuation of the long Presbyterian history of witness in word and deed among Muslims. b.. Participate in considering appropriate forms of Christian witness for our time. c.. Work for full religious freedom (including the right to practice the faith of one's choice) and for equality of citizenship for all persons in their societies -- whether Muslims or Christians or others, whether in the U.S. or elsewhere. d.. Identify the political use of religion for purposes of power and oppression. e.. Pray for partner churches in predominantly Muslim areas. f.. Work through ecumenical and interfaith channels and organizations whenever possible "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? Sign on forehead: Try to be sure brain is in motion before putting mouth or keyboard in gear. Works like this, JimH 1. You offered a quote from a Muslim terrorist, calling upon Allah, as proof that Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west. Really. My quote was proof that "Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west"? Hitting the bottle again Chuckie? It sounds like it. I am getting a bit tired of the way you misrepresent and spin what I *actually* said. This is another of your MO's now, besides the "who, me?" position you normally take when nailed on something. The bull comment was in response to your comment of : "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions." I offered a quote from an actual terrorist suicide bomber who made it clear his main reason was for seeing Allah. It is all about Allah for them. So yes, bull. I am tired of playing your little game Chuckles. Let me know when you will finally stop the lies and spins.....maybe then we can have an honest discussion. |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? Sign on forehead: Try to be sure brain is in motion before putting mouth or keyboard in gear. Advice you should follow Chuck. Some more information from you, again straight from the horses mouth: ========================================== In what sense were the World Trade Centre bombers members of Islam? This question has been sidelined by many Western analysts impatient with the niceties of theology; but it may be the key to understanding the recent attacks, and assessing the long-term prospects for peace in the Muslim world. Certainly, neither bin Laden nor his principal associate, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are graduates of Islamic universities or seminaries. And so their proclamations ignore 14 centuries of Muslim scholarship, and instead take the form of lists of anti-American grievances and of Koranic quotations referring to early Muslim wars against Arab idolators. These are followed by the conclusion that all Americans, civilian and military, are to be wiped off the face of the Earth. This sort of radical move leads to liberal re-readings of the Koran, as in the case of the South African theologian Farid Esack, who has horrified traditionalists by advocating homosexual rights among Muslims. Much more commonly, however, it allows young men whose anger has been aroused by American policy in the Middle East to ignore the scholarly consensus about the meaning of the Koran, and read their own frustrations into the text. Another result of this rejection of traditional Islam has been the notion that political power should be in the hands of men of religion. http://www.islamfortoday.com/murad04.htm ========================================== The fact is, although being extremists, the terrorists are indeed Muslims and followers of Islamic teachings (as they interpret them). |
Understand that I never believed all Muslims are terrorists, nor that all
followers of Islamic faith are terrorists. As I told Chuck, the terrorists are Muslims and followers of Islam....but in an extreme and warped way. It is time for the Muslim population to weed out the bad apples. "Real Name" wrote in message ... JimH, I thought you might want to read some of the Presbyterian Church's thoughts concerning Islam and Muslims. http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/2004/04125.htm http://www.pcusa.org/september11/worship/islam.htm http://www.pcusa.org/listeningproject/ http://www.pcusa.org/pcusa/wmd/eir/muslim.htm From the Presbyterian Church of the United States. Support the search to promote understanding. a.. Get to know and become friends with Muslim neighbors. Plan reciprocal visits, as appropriate. b.. Identify and counteract prejudicial and abusive behavior toward Muslims in your community and our society. c.. Be sensitive to stereotypical characterizations of Islam and Muslims. d.. Consider questions arising from key dialogue issues facing Christians and Muslims. e.. Study about Islam. Support the search for cooperation. a.. Promote relationships and dialogue with Muslims, giving attention to practical, theological, and historical dimensions. b.. Identify common concerns with Muslims. Explore ways to address concerns cooperatively and to engage in joint efforts. c.. Recognize that Muslims' perceptions of the United States' role in the Islamic world often affect their response to Christians. d.. Work together with Muslims for world peace and social justice. e.. As possible, work with Muslims and Jews to find common ethical grounds within our three Abrahamic communities that enable solidarity for justice, peace, and the sustainability of creation. Support the search for faithful witness. a.. Affirm continuation of the long Presbyterian history of witness in word and deed among Muslims. b.. Participate in considering appropriate forms of Christian witness for our time. c.. Work for full religious freedom (including the right to practice the faith of one's choice) and for equality of citizenship for all persons in their societies -- whether Muslims or Christians or others, whether in the U.S. or elsewhere. d.. Identify the political use of religion for purposes of power and oppression. e.. Pray for partner churches in predominantly Muslim areas. f.. Work through ecumenical and interfaith channels and organizations whenever possible "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... rebel wrote: A Letter to Mankind Dear fellow human, Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not! The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed. Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence. Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam. Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history. If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran. We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand. We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity. We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people. Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it. The ex-Muslim Movement www.faithfreedom.org Shove this hateful crap someplace. The "terrorists" represent Islam just about the same way that the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions. Bull. Why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people Chuck? It is indeed being done for their Allah. I'm certain that you must be correct. How could my poorly expressed point hope to withstand your concise and shattering counter argument, ("Bull"!)? Unlike you I don't need to write an essay to express a thought or opinion. So answer the question.....why do you think terrorists are strapping bombs to their bodies and killing innocent people? I think that the desperate, the hungry, the poor, the ignorant, zealots of any persuaion, and the hateful can be easily manipulated by people professing any number of justifications. The Islamic "terrorists" are no more motivated by true Islam than the KKK is motivated by true Christianity, (or than the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany and the purity of the Aryan "race" was justified by Christianity). The party spreading this filth calls upon all Muslims to abandon their faith due to the actions of some terrorist criminals. Assuming you are a Christian, will you soon be abandoning your faith due to the terrorist actions of the Ku Klux Klan, or is it possible to repudiate the Klan without repudiating Christianity? Would you feel that Black, Jewish, and Catholic Americans were well justified if they declared war on all WASPS due to the criminal terrorist activities of splinter groups professing protestant Christianity in the US? If not, why do we now hear so many defending these calls for wars to "stamp out Islam" in response to the criminal terrorist activities of an extremist minority? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Inside the mind of an Iraqi Suicide Bomber" Time Magazine "While he waits, he spends much of his time rehearsing that last prayer. "First I will ask Allah to bless my mission with a high rate of casualties among the Americans," he says, speaking softly in a matter-of-fact monotone, as if dictating a shopping list. "Then I will ask him to purify my soul so I am fit to see him, and I will ask to see my mujahedin brothers who are already with him." He pauses to run the list through his mind again, then resumes: "The most important thing is that he should let me kill many Americans." http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9327.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So? And you busted my balls about my previous "bull" comment? How absolutely funny. "Who, me?"....eh? Sign on forehead: Try to be sure brain is in motion before putting mouth or keyboard in gear. Works like this, JimH 1. You offered a quote from a Muslim terrorist, calling upon Allah, as proof that Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west. Really. My quote was proof that "Islam is a violent religion and all Muslims believe they should rise up against the west"? Hitting the bottle again Chuckie? It sounds like it. I am getting a bit tired of the way you misrepresent and spin what I *actually* said. This is another of your MO's now, besides the "who, me?" position you normally take when nailed on something. The bull comment was in response to your comment of : "Kill an infidel for Allah" rings just as hollow as "Lynch a ****** for Christ". Both are sick and hateful corruptions." I offered a quote from an actual terrorist suicide bomber who made it clear his main reason was for seeing Allah. It is all about Allah for them. So yes, bull. I am tired of playing your little game Chuckles. Let me know when you will finally stop the lies and spins.....maybe then we can have an honest discussion. |
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:10:04 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:
Understand that I never believed all Muslims are terrorists, nor that all followers of Islamic faith are terrorists. As I told Chuck, the terrorists are Muslims and followers of Islam....but in an extreme and warped way. It is time for the Muslim population to weed out the bad apples. Jim, your support of the original essay posted by 'rebel' seemed to indicate agreement with its arguments. In the essay, the phrase, "Defeat Islam and stop terrorism" was used to summarize the position of the author. Note that the author didn't say, "Defeat Muslim extremists and stop terrorism." He (or she) referred to 'Islam' (all Muslims) just as a reference to 'Catholicism' would refer to all Catholics. Perhaps this is the source of the confusion between what you really think and what it 'appeared' that you really think! -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:10:04 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: Understand that I never believed all Muslims are terrorists, nor that all followers of Islamic faith are terrorists. As I told Chuck, the terrorists are Muslims and followers of Islam....but in an extreme and warped way. It is time for the Muslim population to weed out the bad apples. Jim, your support of the original essay posted by 'rebel' seemed to indicate agreement with its arguments. In the essay, the phrase, "Defeat Islam and stop terrorism" was used to summarize the position of the author. Note that the author didn't say, "Defeat Muslim extremists and stop terrorism." He (or she) referred to 'Islam' (all Muslims) just as a reference to 'Catholicism' would refer to all Catholics. Perhaps this is the source of the confusion between what you really think and what it 'appeared' that you really think! -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD I posted that only to show that the terrorists are indeed Muslims and followers of Islam.....and in an extreme way. The article clearly pointed that out. I did not post it to show that all Muslims and followers of Islam are terrorists...the article clearly shows that not to be the case. There is no confusion John, other than perhaps on your end. |
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:57:50 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:10:04 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: Understand that I never believed all Muslims are terrorists, nor that all followers of Islamic faith are terrorists. As I told Chuck, the terrorists are Muslims and followers of Islam....but in an extreme and warped way. It is time for the Muslim population to weed out the bad apples. Jim, your support of the original essay posted by 'rebel' seemed to indicate agreement with its arguments. In the essay, the phrase, "Defeat Islam and stop terrorism" was used to summarize the position of the author. Note that the author didn't say, "Defeat Muslim extremists and stop terrorism." He (or she) referred to 'Islam' (all Muslims) just as a reference to 'Catholicism' would refer to all Catholics. Perhaps this is the source of the confusion between what you really think and what it 'appeared' that you really think! -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD I posted that only to show that the terrorists are indeed Muslims and followers of Islam.....and in an extreme way. The article clearly pointed that out. I did not post it to show that all Muslims and followers of Islam are terrorists...the article clearly shows that not to be the case. There is no confusion John, other than perhaps on your end. Perhaps we're talking about different articles. I was referring to the initial post which was against *all* Muslims. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
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