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Michael Shaffer July 14th 05 04:02 PM

DMV fees :(
 
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates

P. Fritz July 14th 05 04:05 PM


"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates



Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky



[email protected] July 14th 05 04:48 PM



P. Fritz wrote:
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates



Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky


I consider myself lucky every day that I don't live in Michigan.


*JimH* July 14th 05 04:51 PM


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P. Fritz wrote:
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates



Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky


I consider myself lucky every day that I don't live in Michigan.


So do the folks in Michigan.



P. Fritz July 14th 05 04:57 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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P. Fritz wrote:
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates


Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky


I consider myself lucky every day that I don't live in Michigan.


So do the folks in Michigan.


LMAO.....next we will hear about that 'world class city' Atlanta, .....sll
that great boating (in kevin's case 'tubin the hooch') is supposed to
compare to the Great Lakes BWAHAHAHA





[email protected] July 14th 05 07:34 PM



P. Fritz wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
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P. Fritz wrote:
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates


Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky

I consider myself lucky every day that I don't live in Michigan.


So do the folks in Michigan.


LMAO.....next we will hear about that 'world class city' Atlanta, .....sll
that great boating (in kevin's case 'tubin the hooch') is supposed to
compare to the Great Lakes BWAHAHAHA


Yeah, sure, asshole. I've proven over and over to you that, indeed,
Atlanta IS a world class city. But, you're too stupid to know and
comprehend when you've been taught a lesson.


[email protected] July 14th 05 07:35 PM



*JimH* wrote:
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P. Fritz wrote:
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
news:j8vBe.78771$oK.44106@okepread02...
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates


Michigan permanent trailer plates are $75. consider yourself lucky


I consider myself lucky every day that I don't live in Michigan.


So do the folks in Michigan.


Really? Are you really so ****ing stupid that you think everyone in
Michigan knows me? How ignorant ARE you, anyway?


John H. July 14th 05 07:43 PM

On 14 Jul 2005 11:35:05 -0700, wrote:


Really? Are you really so ****ing stupid that you think everyone in
Michigan knows me? How ignorant ARE you, anyway?


Was that posted by an adult?

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

P. Fritz July 14th 05 07:56 PM


"John H." wrote in message
...
On 14 Jul 2005 11:35:05 -0700, wrote:


Really? Are you really so ****ing stupid that you think everyone in
Michigan knows me? How ignorant ARE you, anyway?


Was that posted by an adult?


That is what kevin believes is witty repartee


--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD




Dan Krueger July 15th 05 01:11 AM

What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.

wrote:

Yeah, sure, asshole. I've proven over and over to you that, indeed,
Atlanta IS a world class city. But, you're too stupid to know and
comprehend when you've been taught a lesson.


John H. July 15th 05 01:24 AM

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:11:36 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.

wrote:

Yeah, sure, asshole. I've proven over and over to you that, indeed,
Atlanta IS a world class city. But, you're too stupid to know and
comprehend when you've been taught a lesson.


Well, Washington DC wouldn't cut it then.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

[email protected] July 15th 05 12:33 PM



John H. wrote:
On 14 Jul 2005 11:35:05 -0700, wrote:


Really? Are you really so ****ing stupid that you think everyone in
Michigan knows me? How ignorant ARE you, anyway?


Was that posted by an adult?

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD



It's much more adult than posting hundreds of times the same sentence:
"Harry, you're a ****ing liar".


[email protected] July 15th 05 12:51 PM



Dan Krueger wrote:
What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.


Why, murder rates in Atlanta are their lowest since 1965. Rape, lowest
since 1972, robbery, losest since 1972, Burglary lowest since 1967,
Larceny lowest since 1974, with total number of Part 1 crimes the
lowest since 1971

Now, MOST people realize that Atlanta is THE economic powerhouse of the
south. MOST people also know that Atlanta is often called the Big Apple
of the South, because of its many cultural venues.

For you and your butt buddy Fritz, from Leisure Travel Magazine:

"First-time visitors may envision Atlanta as having a serene antebellum
ambience, with dogwood-framed mansions inhabited by ladies in lace
dresses who serve mint juleps to slow-talking southern gentlemen. On
the contrary, Georgia's capital, fondly known as "HOTlanta" to locals,
is now a bustling, world-class city, with a skyline full of impressive
architectural designs that complement rolling hills and abundant
foliage. Atlanta is consistently ranked as one of the best places to do
business in the U.S., and more than 750 of Fortune's Top 1,000
businesses have offices there.

A fast-paced, ready-for-the-future attitude is evident in its booming
convention business, pulsing nightlife, showplace museums,
sophisticated fine-arts facilities and painstakingly restored
historical landmarks.
Atlantans are fiercely proud of their city. They bubble over with
enthusiasm for Braves baseball, Hawks basketball, Thrashers hockey and
Falcons football. The city has hosted two Super Bowls. News of
Atlanta's special formula for friendliness combined with pride emerged
during the 1996 Olympics, when the city opened its doors and made the
world feel welcome.

Downtown Atlanta has several hubs of activity: the World Congress
Convention Center; CNN Center, home of Ted Turner's 24-hour Cable News
Network; and Peachtree Center, a combination of grand hotels, upscale
retail and modern businesses. Cultural events include a myriad of
outdoor fairs, festivals and concerts."

And this from Art Business News:
Atlanta is a city rich in history and culture, offering residents and
visitors much to explore. World-class museums, gardens, parks, and
Civil War monuments dot the Atlanta landscape, offering interesting and
engaging experiences for all ages.

So, I've given you and Fritz some examples of why Atlanta IS a world
class city, let's see some of your reasons why it's not. Fritz is
especially good at being an annoying little bitch, but never ever
offering anything to back up his position. Perhaps you are the same?


P. Fritz July 15th 05 01:25 PM


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.


Kevin is still affected by the bitch slapping he received.......his
"proof" was a laser light show, some run of the mill science labs, and one
theater........LMAO



wrote:

Yeah, sure, asshole. I've proven over and over to you that, indeed,
Atlanta IS a world class city. But, you're too stupid to know and
comprehend when you've been taught a lesson.




Dan Krueger July 16th 05 01:15 AM

wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.



Why, murder rates in Atlanta are their lowest since 1965. Rape, lowest
since 1972, robbery, losest since 1972, Burglary lowest since 1967,
Larceny lowest since 1974, with total number of Part 1 crimes the
lowest since 1971

Now, MOST people realize that Atlanta is THE economic powerhouse of the
south. MOST people also know that Atlanta is often called the Big Apple
of the South, because of its many cultural venues.

For you and your butt buddy Fritz, from Leisure Travel Magazine:


I don't know Fritz, Kevin. Check this link about your crime stats...

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime6.aspx

And traffic...

http://www.tripnet.org/state/Atlanta052903.htm


"First-time visitors may envision Atlanta as having a serene antebellum
ambience, with dogwood-framed mansions inhabited by ladies in lace
dresses who serve mint juleps to slow-talking southern gentlemen. On
the contrary, Georgia's capital, fondly known as "HOTlanta" to locals,
is now a bustling, world-class city, with a skyline full of impressive
architectural designs that complement rolling hills and abundant
foliage. Atlanta is consistently ranked as one of the best places to do
business in the U.S., and more than 750 of Fortune's Top 1,000
businesses have offices there.

A fast-paced, ready-for-the-future attitude is evident in its booming
convention business, pulsing nightlife, showplace museums,
sophisticated fine-arts facilities and painstakingly restored
historical landmarks.
Atlantans are fiercely proud of their city. They bubble over with
enthusiasm for Braves baseball, Hawks basketball, Thrashers hockey and
Falcons football. The city has hosted two Super Bowls. News of
Atlanta's special formula for friendliness combined with pride emerged
during the 1996 Olympics, when the city opened its doors and made the
world feel welcome.

Downtown Atlanta has several hubs of activity: the World Congress
Convention Center; CNN Center, home of Ted Turner's 24-hour Cable News
Network; and Peachtree Center, a combination of grand hotels, upscale
retail and modern businesses. Cultural events include a myriad of
outdoor fairs, festivals and concerts."

And this from Art Business News:
Atlanta is a city rich in history and culture, offering residents and
visitors much to explore. World-class museums, gardens, parks, and
Civil War monuments dot the Atlanta landscape, offering interesting and
engaging experiences for all ages.


Whatever. You can Google rhetoric like this for Toledo or even Gary,
Indiana.

So, I've given you and Fritz some examples of why Atlanta IS a world
class city, let's see some of your reasons why it's not. Fritz is
especially good at being an annoying little bitch, but never ever
offering anything to back up his position. Perhaps you are the same?


You are calling someone else annoying? Do you read our own posts?

P. Fritz July 18th 05 03:12 PM


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

What is a "world class city", Kevin? Who decides that a city is "world
class"? They must exclude crime and traffic in their equation.



Why, murder rates in Atlanta are their lowest since 1965. Rape, lowest
since 1972, robbery, losest since 1972, Burglary lowest since 1967,
Larceny lowest since 1974, with total number of Part 1 crimes the
lowest since 1971

Now, MOST people realize that Atlanta is THE economic powerhouse of the
south. MOST people also know that Atlanta is often called the Big Apple
of the South, because of its many cultural venues.

For you and your butt buddy Fritz, from Leisure Travel Magazine:


I don't know Fritz, Kevin. Check this link about your crime stats...

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime6.aspx

And traffic...

http://www.tripnet.org/state/Atlanta052903.htm



They have been working on I-75/85 since I lived there in the 80's



"First-time visitors may envision Atlanta as having a serene antebellum
ambience, with dogwood-framed mansions inhabited by ladies in lace
dresses who serve mint juleps to slow-talking southern gentlemen. On
the contrary, Georgia's capital, fondly known as "HOTlanta" to locals,
is now a bustling, world-class city, with a skyline full of impressive
architectural designs that complement rolling hills and abundant
foliage. Atlanta is consistently ranked as one of the best places to do
business in the U.S., and more than 750 of Fortune's Top 1,000
businesses have offices there.

A fast-paced, ready-for-the-future attitude is evident in its booming
convention business, pulsing nightlife, showplace museums,
sophisticated fine-arts facilities and painstakingly restored
historical landmarks.
Atlantans are fiercely proud of their city. They bubble over with
enthusiasm for Braves baseball, Hawks basketball, Thrashers hockey and
Falcons football. The city has hosted two Super Bowls. News of
Atlanta's special formula for friendliness combined with pride emerged
during the 1996 Olympics, when the city opened its doors and made the
world feel welcome.

Downtown Atlanta has several hubs of activity: the World Congress
Convention Center; CNN Center, home of Ted Turner's 24-hour Cable News
Network; and Peachtree Center, a combination of grand hotels, upscale
retail and modern businesses. Cultural events include a myriad of
outdoor fairs, festivals and concerts."

And this from Art Business News:
Atlanta is a city rich in history and culture, offering residents and
visitors much to explore. World-class museums, gardens, parks, and
Civil War monuments dot the Atlanta landscape, offering interesting and
engaging experiences for all ages.


Whatever. You can Google rhetoric like this for Toledo or even Gary,
Indiana.


That is about it........kevin lists a bunch of average items and thinks that
make it world class.......of course if you don't get out much, it probably
does seem like that.

With minor editing of a names, I could replace Detroit for Atlanta and use
the same verbage.......


So, I've given you and Fritz some examples of why Atlanta IS a world
class city, let's see some of your reasons why it's not. Fritz is
especially good at being an annoying little bitch, but never ever
offering anything to back up his position. Perhaps you are the same?


You are calling someone else annoying? Do you read our own posts?


Kevin has problems with basic reading comprehension.




Camilo July 18th 05 08:54 PM



Michael Shaffer wrote:
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates


Michael - which of these fees seems excessive to you? One by one, they
don't seem excessive and looking at the list, I don't see anything
unusual or unreasonable for the first time registration. I also see
that subsequent registrations will be $10 -$27, depending on wt. What
is unreasonable other than having to title it and register it?


Bill McKee July 18th 05 10:07 PM

If it is home built, the use tax should not be there. And when I made my
custom racecar trailer, there was not extra charge for "Custom trailer
application" And this is in Calif, the state who loves to tax. And the
plates come with the registration. If you have to replace damaged plates,
is about $10.

"Camilo" wrote in message
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Michael Shaffer wrote:
All these fees just to get a custom 200lb trailer on the road.

$5 Custom trailer application form VSA 88
$10 titling fee
$35 sales and use tax
$10-$27.50 Registration fee based on weight
$52 Permanent plates


Michael - which of these fees seems excessive to you? One by one, they
don't seem excessive and looking at the list, I don't see anything
unusual or unreasonable for the first time registration. I also see
that subsequent registrations will be $10 -$27, depending on wt. What
is unreasonable other than having to title it and register it?





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