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Yet another irrelevant link. Why do you keep posting links to high school
physics experiments, rather than acknowledging the information from the leading manufacturers and experts? Way back at the beginning of this thread, the argument began when I commented that a battery consists of 6 cells at 2.2 volts per cell, or 13.2 total volts. Several geniuses corrected me, stating that the number is only 2.1 volts per cell, not 2.2. Is the number no longer 2.2, as it has been since the invention of the battery because a battery company and Nigel Calder say that's the case? What other laws of physics are vetoed by claims on a commercial web site? It would be handy to have a list. The folks who believe that there is no "actual charge" above 12.6 volts are free to manage their 12-volt systems accordingly. Perhaps Nigel Calder or the Trojan Battery guys will come tow them. |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Yet another irrelevant link. Why do you keep posting links to high school physics experiments, rather than acknowledging the information from the leading manufacturers and experts? Way back at the beginning of this thread, the argument began when I commented that a battery consists of 6 cells at 2.2 volts per cell, or 13.2 total volts. Several geniuses corrected me, stating that the number is only 2.1 volts per cell, not 2.2. Is the number no longer 2.2, as it has been since the invention of the battery because a battery company and Nigel Calder say that's the case? What other laws of physics are vetoed by claims on a commercial web site? It would be handy to have a list. The folks who believe that there is no "actual charge" above 12.6 volts are free to manage their 12-volt systems accordingly. Perhaps Nigel Calder or the Trojan Battery guys will come tow them. BWAHAHAHAHA! Now its a conspiracy! Trojan, Rolls, and Calder are ganging up on poor Gould! |
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BWAHAHAHAHA! Now its a conspiracy! Trojan, Rolls, and Calder are ganging
up on poor Gould! First characteristic of a losing argument, switch to personal attack. Or, was that several posts back when you assumed I was a 'bozo" that ran a gen set all night? Damn, it's hard to keep the insults straight any more. 2.2 X 6 = 13.2. |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
... BWAHAHAHAHA! Now its a conspiracy! Trojan, Rolls, and Calder are ganging up on poor Gould! First characteristic of a losing argument, switch to personal attack. First characteristic of a losing argument: claiming all of the experts are wrong, all of the manufacturers have a hidden agenda, and everyone is ignoring the "science." Or, was that several posts back when you assumed I was a 'bozo" that ran a gen set all night? No - you seemed to imply that not running a charging system was unnatural for a boater. You called a "working environment" one that has a charger running. Damn, it's hard to keep the insults straight any more. 2.2 X 6 = 13.2. The first sign of dementia is mumbling the same nonsense over and over. |
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First characteristic of a losing argument: claiming all of the experts are
wrong, Your experts disagree with my experts. Surely you noticed that? No - you seemed to imply that not running a charging system was unnatural for a boater. You called a "working environment" one that has a charger running. Normally a battery works in an environment where there is a charger, or an alternator. Neither the charger nor the alternator runs all the time, but one or the other will be running when the battery is being charged, which has a direct bearing on a question regarding the voltage reading of a battery that has reached a full charge state. From your perspective, on a sailboat, that may not be true. If you don't have an auxiliary and you're charging the battery at home in your garage, you're probably never going to see anything above 12.6 on the boat. |
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Actually, I'm not sure they disagreed. All of my experts were talking about
marine batteries in a practical environment. Two are the manufacturers of the batteries we each happen to use, the other is the acknowledged expert in cruising boat systems. None of your "experts" ever mentioned marine batteries; in fact, I don't think they mentioned production batteries hardly at all. Several weren't even talking about flooded cells. One actually gave numbers closer to mine than yours. Also, your "experts" mention an approximate value in passing, without a discussion of charging, measuring state of charge, and surface charge. My experts were all talking specifically about these subjects, and were unequivocal that your approach to measuring state of charge is flawed. "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... First characteristic of a losing argument: claiming all of the experts are wrong, Your experts disagree with my experts. Surely you noticed that? No - you seemed to imply that not running a charging system was unnatural for a boater. You called a "working environment" one that has a charger running. Normally a battery works in an environment where there is a charger, or an alternator. Neither the charger nor the alternator runs all the time, but one or the other will be running when the battery is being charged, which has a direct bearing on a question regarding the voltage reading of a battery that has reached a full charge state. From your perspective, on a sailboat, that may not be true. If you don't have an auxiliary and you're charging the battery at home in your garage, you're probably never going to see anything above 12.6 on the boat. |
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