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For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000

Incarceration of black men in South Africa before ANC rule, and in
contemporary America

South Africa (1993) 851 per 100,000

U.S.A. (2002) 7150 per 100,000

Source U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics Prison Policy Initiative "The
International Use of Incarceration" By Marc Mauer The Sentencing Project.


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Quite the statistics.
What's going on? ...a general lack of respect for law & order?


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Damn, Bush sure caused a lot of incarcerations in a very short time. Sounds
more like it has been under several presidents. Your predjuice is showing.
Bigtime!

"Jim" wrote in message
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For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000

Incarceration of black men in South Africa before ANC rule, and in
contemporary America

South Africa (1993) 851 per 100,000

U.S.A. (2002) 7150 per 100,000

Source U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics Prison Policy Initiative "The
International Use of Incarceration" By Marc Mauer The Sentencing Project.




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Jim wrote:
For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000


Statistics for USA (2000) would be for William J Clinton's America, not
George W Bush's.

Steve

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Harry Krause
 
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Steven Shelikoff wrote:

Jim wrote:

For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000



Statistics for USA (2000) would be for William J Clinton's America, not
George W Bush's.

Steve



Yeah, I'd guess the rates are higher now.


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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000


Statistics for USA (2000) would be for William J Clinton's America, not
George W Bush's.

Steve


If the numbers were broken down by age, you might actually have a valid
point. Or not. Without that information, you can't pin this on any
particular president.


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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000


Statistics for USA (2000) would be for William J Clinton's America, not
George W Bush's.



If the numbers were broken down by age, you might actually have a valid
point. Or not. Without that information, you can't pin this on any
particular president.


The valid point is that Incarceration rates for 2000 can not be George W
Bush's rates, as the magazine claimed, since he didn't take office until
2001. If the magazine called "UTNE" can't even that that point of well
based fact correct, I wouldn't trust them for much else.

Just goes to show how easy it is to brainwash liberal Democrats, eh?

Steve

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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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If the numbers were broken down by age, you might actually have a valid
point. Or not. Without that information, you can't pin this on any
particular president.


The valid point is that Incarceration rates for 2000 can not be George W
Bush's rates, as the magazine claimed, since he didn't take office until
2001. If the magazine called "UTNE" can't even that that point of well
based fact correct, I wouldn't trust them for much else.

Just goes to show how easy it is to brainwash liberal Democrats, eh?


The libs in this group all goosestep to the liberal media. They are just
borg's running like lemmings for the cliff. ; )



Steve



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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...

Jim wrote:

For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000

Statistics for USA (2000) would be for William J Clinton's America, not
George W Bush's.



If the numbers were broken down by age, you might actually have a valid
point. Or not. Without that information, you can't pin this on any
particular president.


The valid point is that Incarceration rates for 2000 can not be George W
Bush's rates, as the magazine claimed, since he didn't take office until
2001. If the magazine called "UTNE" can't even that that point of well
based fact correct, I wouldn't trust them for much else.

Just goes to show how easy it is to brainwash liberal Democrats, eh?

Steve


UTNE Reader is a compilation of articles published elsewhere, often from
academic journals most people would not normally have access to.


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Jim wrote:

For reasons I don't understand I am getting sample copies of a magazine
called "UTNE", sort of a combo new age, liberal, holistic thing.

Anyhow page 15 has a small insert titled "Land of the free?"

Incarceration rates in George W Bush's America and Stalin's USSR

U.S.S.R (1950) 1423 per 100,000

U.S.A (2000) 2298 per 100,000

Incarceration of black men in South Africa before ANC rule, and in
contemporary America

South Africa (1993) 851 per 100,000

U.S.A. (2002) 7150 per 100,000

Source U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics Prison Policy Initiative "The
International Use of Incarceration" By Marc Mauer The Sentencing Project.



Yeah, we have a well-deserved rep in this country for being the
imprisonment capital of the universe, along with one of the few capital
punishment nations among western democracies. Oh...we also have a a dumb
ass as POTUS.


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