Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you will
probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm



"Ignoramus15786" wrote in message
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I have had incredible success using fantastic on everything except I
have not tried using it on vinyl.

i

"Real Name" wrote in message
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Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm



According to your link bleach will only degrade fiberglass with long term
exposure, meaning leaving the bleach sit on the fiberglass for a long time
without rinsing.

According to your link "Short contact and thorough rinsing should not cause
damage..".

I take that to mean that even if you were to use bleach on the boat every
week, but did not leave it sitting long and flushed it with water thoroughly
there would be no harm to the fiberglass.

Myth busted IMO.

As noted, my experience is that bleach products seem to cause
a temporary yellowing of white surfaces.





On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:39:34 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm



According to your link bleach will only degrade fiberglass with long term
exposure, meaning leaving the bleach sit on the fiberglass for a long time
without rinsing.

According to your link "Short contact and thorough rinsing should not cause
damage..".

I take that to mean that even if you were to use bleach on the boat every
week, but did not leave it sitting long and flushed it with water thoroughly
there would be no harm to the fiberglass.

Myth busted IMO.

"frank1492" wrote in message
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As noted, my experience is that bleach products seem to cause
a temporary yellowing of white surfaces.

What kind of "white surfaces" ?? Fiberglass ?
gelcoated fiberglass ? Plastic? vinyl ?





On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:39:34 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm



According to your link bleach will only degrade fiberglass with long term
exposure, meaning leaving the bleach sit on the fiberglass for a long
time
without rinsing.

According to your link "Short contact and thorough rinsing should not
cause
damage..".

I take that to mean that even if you were to use bleach on the boat every
week, but did not leave it sitting long and flushed it with water
thoroughly
there would be no harm to the fiberglass.

Myth busted IMO.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm



According to your link bleach will only degrade fiberglass with long term
exposure, meaning leaving the bleach sit on the fiberglass for a long time
without rinsing.

According to your link "Short contact and thorough rinsing should not
cause
damage..".

I take that to mean that even if you were to use bleach on the boat every
week, but did not leave it sitting long and flushed it with water
thoroughly
there would be no harm to the fiberglass.

Myth busted IMO.

Agreed, but for different reasons. I don't buy that
bleach attacks fiberglass. Keytones, yes, bleach? no.

"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will
probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm

No offence, but I don't buy it. First off, he says bleach will
attack polyester fibers. Fiberglass is just that: fibers of "glass",
not 'esters' (or poly-esters). And I don't know of any resin
used on fiberglass that contains "polyester", but who knows.
Chlorine bleach is used in swimming pools, and swiming pool
related apparatus all the time. As I understand it, it will attack
cotton, paper products, and other "organic" matter, thus why
it is a good cleaner of mold, moss, blood, but bad on cotton,
cloth, paper, etc. BTW, the sticthing on boat upolostry isn't
cotton based, is it ? I'd want more, verifiable proof of what
this guy says before believing it. Maybe a materials safety
handling sheet on bleach will be more helpfull ?




"Ignoramus15786" wrote in message
...
I have had incredible success using fantastic on everything except I
have not tried using it on vinyl.

i

Fiberglass term as used in boats is really Fiber reinforced Plastic (FRP).
And the plastic can be a polyester resin. But if bleach was that degrading,
most hottubs would be bad in 12 years, and my pool sweep would have to be
replaced a lot more often than 15 years

"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message
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"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Fantastic is a great cleaner for vinyl, and is recommended by many boat
builders. Bleach will degrade vinyl and the stitching thread.

Bleach will degrade fiberglass, but if it is only used once a year you
will
probably not notice it.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00615.htm

No offence, but I don't buy it. First off, he says bleach will
attack polyester fibers. Fiberglass is just that: fibers of "glass",
not 'esters' (or poly-esters). And I don't know of any resin
used on fiberglass that contains "polyester", but who knows.
Chlorine bleach is used in swimming pools, and swiming pool
related apparatus all the time. As I understand it, it will attack
cotton, paper products, and other "organic" matter, thus why
it is a good cleaner of mold, moss, blood, but bad on cotton,
cloth, paper, etc. BTW, the sticthing on boat upolostry isn't
cotton based, is it ? I'd want more, verifiable proof of what
this guy says before believing it. Maybe a materials safety
handling sheet on bleach will be more helpfull ?




"Ignoramus15786" wrote in message
...
I have had incredible success using fantastic on everything except I
have not tried using it on vinyl.

i