Replacement for Moped
 

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/

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Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/


And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have one.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:51:59 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

It's an Urkle car!!

On 29 Jun 2005 22:42:54 -0700, wrote:



Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/

At Alexander's Lake down in Killingly there are a couple of the 20
footer's. I've been on one and frankly, I'm wasn't overly impressed
with the boat.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them on
the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Don, you reconsider "going out on your own" you are not ready to do it.

Why don't you wait for you idol, Harry, to verbally trash someone first and
then you can pile on.

Bill McKee wrote:
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Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/


And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have one.

Uh, Bill, Don's sailboat is quite energy efficient.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:20:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 22:42:54 -0700, wrote:



Don White wrote:

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/

At Alexander's Lake down in Killingly there are a couple of the 20
footer's. I've been on one and frankly, I'm wasn't overly impressed
with the boat.

Gee, they look kinda pretty.

Yes - it's just not my thing - kind of like pontoon boats - if it were
in my power, I'd sink every freakin' one of them - except for those
with decent power and speed.

Also, as an engineer, I wasn't happy with the quality of the wiring
and the routing.

Granted, I only saw one and I don't know if it had even been worked on
by a butcher.

I read that in the mid west they have a new kind of fuel, its 85% alcohol
and 15% gas. Only certain cars can use it at this point, you can tell by
your vin #. Its about 60 cents less per gallon. Im wondering if the marine
people are looking at alternative fuel sources like this for boating....

Ed
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them on
the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Bill McKee wrote:



And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have one.



Don sails.......very little fuel required for 6hp Evinrude used sparingly.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:51:59 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/


It's an Urkle car!!


Better...the one's here have little diesel engines.

ed wrote:
I read that in the mid west they have a new kind of fuel, its 85% alcohol
and 15% gas. Only certain cars can use it at this point, you can tell by
your vin #. Its about 60 cents less per gallon. Im wondering if the marine
people are looking at alternative fuel sources like this for boating....

Ed
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them on
the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

I burn a fuel called B20. It's 80% dinsosaur diesel, and 20% bio-diesel
created from vegetable oils. (The discarded oils from fast food fryers
are a primary course for the vegetable oil). Burning B20 reduces fossil
fuel consumption by 20%. It's possible to burn 100% bio-diesel in many
engines, but some of the fuel lines and other rubber items need to be
swapped out for different materials at higher concentrations of bio.
There's no need to swap hoses at the 20% level, and it's available at
the fuel dock. At this time, anybody wanting to use a higher
concentration of biodiesel has to haul it down the dock in cans- almost
practical for a small sailboat with a 15 gallon fuel tank, but not so
for a powerboat with a 300-gallon or larger fuel capacity.

Bert Robbins wrote:



Don, you reconsider "going out on your own" you are not ready to do it.
** No I don't!

Why don't you wait for you idol, Harry, to verbally trash someone first and
then you can pile on.

**We have a deal. Harry hooks the big fish, but leaves 'you' small fry
for me to cleanup....

HarryKrause wrote:


What do they sell for? Looks like the perfect vehicle to get to the
commuter depot.



Looks like they start under $ 17K and then upward to $ 20K
http://www.thesmart.ca/index.cfm?id=4723

HarryKrause wrote:
Don White wrote:

HarryKrause wrote:


What do they sell for? Looks like the perfect vehicle to get to the
commuter depot.



Looks like they start under $ 17K and then upward to $ 20K
http://www.thesmart.ca/index.cfm?id=4723



Wow. I can buy a new Toyota deathbox for kess than that.
Even if that is in Canadian dollars.

Yes...that's the problem. for that kind of cash you can choose between
two highly rated econo type cars...the Toyota Corolla or the Honda Civic.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:51:59 GMT, Don White wrote:

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Those little buggers, or ones just like it, were all over Rome a couple years
ago when I visited. They are cute!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:22:56 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:



Don, you reconsider "going out on your own" you are not ready to do it.

** No I don't!


Why don't you wait for you idol, Harry, to verbally trash someone
first and then you can pile on.

**We have a deal. Harry hooks the big fish, but leaves 'you' small fry
for me to cleanup....


In rec.boats, all the fish that swim to the right are small fry.

Let's be real he if we were Bushbots, the right-wing scumsuckers like
Hertvik, Herring, Robbins, Fritz, Smithers, et al, would be kissing our
buts and exchanging those "secret" back-channel emails with the daily
talking points.

Don't break your arm, Harry!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:22:56 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:



Don, you reconsider "going out on your own" you are not ready to do it.

** No I don't!


Why don't you wait for you idol, Harry, to verbally trash someone
first and then you can pile on.

**We have a deal. Harry hooks the big fish, but leaves 'you' small fry
for me to cleanup....


In rec.boats, all the fish that swim to the right are small fry.

Let's be real he if we were Bushbots, the right-wing scumsuckers like
Hert, Herring, Robbins, Fritz, Smithers, et al, would be kissing our
buts and exchanging those "secret" back-channel emails with the daily
talking points.

Don't break your arm, Harry!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I always lead the list with Krause. I am honored. But I am concerned with
his constant obsession with me and my boat ownership.

Perhaps his night nurse has been forgetting about his medications.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:51:59 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Those little buggers, or ones just like it, were all over Rome a couple
years
ago when I visited. They are cute!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

If you travel to Put-In-Bay on Lake Erie, you will see them all over there
also.

And they are fun to ride.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 29 Jun 2005 22:42:54 -0700, wrote:



Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/

At Alexander's Lake down in Killingly there are a couple of the 20
footer's. I've been on one and frankly, I'm wasn't overly impressed
with the boat.

Hard to ski behind them.

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Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car
that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/


And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have
one.

Uh, Bill, Don's sailboat is quite energy efficient.


We were talking of the Moped. Learn to follow the thread. Chuck posted the
Duffy part.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:



And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have
one.

Don sails.......very little fuel required for 6hp Evinrude used sparingly.


And what do you drive? How much oil to build the boat and sails?

Bill McKee wrote:
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Bill McKee wrote:

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Don White wrote:

Since JimH is ready to move up from his Moped, here's a little car
that
might be the next logical step. Starting to see quite a number of them
on the street here.
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/

Leaving JimH out of it, here's the nautical equivalent of your "smart
car". When and if oil hits $100/bbl, alternatives like this will
become more popular. Kiss water skiing goodbye.
We have a local dealer for these, and I've been out for a ride on Lake
Union in a Duffy. Absolutely quiet, about like sailing.

http://www.duffyboats.com/


And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have
one.

Uh, Bill, Don's sailboat is quite energy efficient.



We were talking of the Moped. Learn to follow the thread. Chuck posted the
Duffy part.


Ok since you asked Bill...In April of 2003 I purchased a Miele 'Comfort'
bike for transportation to & from work downtown. It was quite enjoyable
pedaling to work but the homeward journey was a bit uphill the whole way.

Bill McKee wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Bill McKee wrote:



And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have
one.

Don sails.......very little fuel required for 6hp Evinrude used sparingly.



And what do you drive? How much oil to build the boat and sails?


I'm still driving the mini-van I purchased just over 10 years ago. It
has the 3.0 liter six cylinder engine. Can't go smaller due to required
towing capacity. See other thread re bicycle transportation to work.

Bill McKee wrote:

And what is Don doing to conserve energy? See lots if Duffy's in Naples
area of Long Beach, California. Lots of the homes on the canals have
one.

Uh, Bill, Don's sailboat is quite energy efficient.


We were talking of the Moped. Learn to follow the thread. Chuck posted the
Duffy part.

Oh, so now you're claiming that if it doesn't involve a moped, that it
isn't conserving energy? You didn't ask what Don was driving on land to
conserve. You asked what Don is doing to conserve. He's sailboating.
Learn to follow a thread? I did follow it. YOU asked the wrong
question, is all.