When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame. Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget). Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

You likely would not recognize much of the area with the development
that has taken place. Paso Robles still gets over 100 degrees in the
summer and into the low 30s in the winter. Some things haven't
changed...
The downtown are has been revitalized with a lot of tourist based
business, IE, upscale resturants and boutiques, etc. The earthquake in
2003 took out several of the old buildings, but rebuilding is
progressing nicely. They still haven't figured out how to plug the
smelly spring that started up in the parking lot of the city hall. They
have diverted the water down to the Salinas river, so the sulphur stink
has been removed from the downtown area, unless the wind is from the
east. If you drive through on 101 you would think that Paso Robles has
a bad sewer plant.

There are something like 70 wineries in the area now.

http://www.pasowine.com

has a bunch of info if you are interested.

Thanks again for the info on the DF140.



John H wrote:
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame. Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget). Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Was stationed at Camp Roberts 63. I was in the 59th Engineer Company
(Combat/Seperate) attached to the 194th Armored Bde which had a tank Bn at
Roberts. This was a Regular Army outfit

Spent seven months there and TDY to Hunter Ligget to run experiments. Our
unit was tested for endurance wearing a gas mask for several days and nights
at a time. Yes, we slept in them. We did get to remove them for meals
only. We all were required to wear sanitary pads with little bulb
thermometers up our U NO whats. Guys with white coats and clip boards would
take our temps from time to time by plugging into a lead attached to our
shirt collars.

We were required to do things like build timber trestle bridges under these
conditions. Several men per day would pass out after the first couple of
days. At least there was plenty of medical attention available.

I spent seven months in that unit. Out of over 35 years of active duty that
was the only assignment I absolutely hated.

Butch
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame.
Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget).
Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship
any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training
planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:13:45 GMT, "Butch Davis" wrote:

Was stationed at Camp Roberts 63. I was in the 59th Engineer Company
(Combat/Seperate) attached to the 194th Armored Bde which had a tank Bn at
Roberts. This was a Regular Army outfit

Spent seven months there and TDY to Hunter Ligget to run experiments. Our
unit was tested for endurance wearing a gas mask for several days and nights
at a time. Yes, we slept in them. We did get to remove them for meals
only. We all were required to wear sanitary pads with little bulb
thermometers up our U NO whats. Guys with white coats and clip boards would
take our temps from time to time by plugging into a lead attached to our
shirt collars.

We were required to do things like build timber trestle bridges under these
conditions. Several men per day would pass out after the first couple of
days. At least there was plenty of medical attention available.

I spent seven months in that unit. Out of over 35 years of active duty that
was the only assignment I absolutely hated.

Butch
"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame.
Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget).
Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship
any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training
planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Even an hour in a protective mask at Roberts would be a bitch. My commendation
on putting up with such ****! That had to be rough.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:13:45 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:

Was stationed at Camp Roberts 63. I was in the 59th Engineer Company
(Combat/Seperate) attached to the 194th Armored Bde which had a tank Bn
at
Roberts. This was a Regular Army outfit

Spent seven months there and TDY to Hunter Ligget to run experiments.
Our
unit was tested for endurance wearing a gas mask for several days and
nights
at a time. Yes, we slept in them. We did get to remove them for meals
only. We all were required to wear sanitary pads with little bulb
thermometers up our U NO whats. Guys with white coats and clip boards
would
take our temps from time to time by plugging into a lead attached to
our
shirt collars.

We were required to do things like build timber trestle bridges under
these
conditions. Several men per day would pass out after the first couple
of
days. At least there was plenty of medical attention available.

I spent seven months in that unit. Out of over 35 years of active duty
that
was the only assignment I absolutely hated.

Butch
"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time
frame.
Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget).
Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the
relationship
any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with
training
planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Even an hour in a protective mask at Roberts would be a bitch. My
commendation
on putting up with such ****! That had to be rough.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

He wasn't at hungry maggot lifer reservation? Home of Combat Development
Experimentation Command.

Yes Del. The CDEC mask experiments were conducted at Hunter Ligget (sp??).
At least we got most weekends off and many were three day weekends. Family
housing for the troops was at Fort Ord so guys only saw the families on the
weekends. Divorce rate was very high.

Due to heat our workdays started about 0330 for breakfast and I seem to
remember most days finishing with the noon meal also known as LRC.

Those were not the good old days. Morale was lower than whale manure.

Butch
"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:13:45 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:

Was stationed at Camp Roberts 63. I was in the 59th Engineer Company
(Combat/Seperate) attached to the 194th Armored Bde which had a tank Bn
at
Roberts. This was a Regular Army outfit

Spent seven months there and TDY to Hunter Ligget to run experiments. Our
unit was tested for endurance wearing a gas mask for several days and
nights
at a time. Yes, we slept in them. We did get to remove them for meals
only. We all were required to wear sanitary pads with little bulb
thermometers up our U NO whats. Guys with white coats and clip boards
would
take our temps from time to time by plugging into a lead attached to our
shirt collars.

We were required to do things like build timber trestle bridges under
these
conditions. Several men per day would pass out after the first couple of
days. At least there was plenty of medical attention available.

I spent seven months in that unit. Out of over 35 years of active duty
that
was the only assignment I absolutely hated.

Butch
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time
frame.
Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget).
Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the
relationship
any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training
planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Even an hour in a protective mask at Roberts would be a bitch. My
commendation
on putting up with such ****! That had to be rough.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

He wasn't at hungry maggot lifer reservation? Home of Combat Development
Experimentation Command.

"Butch Davis" wrote in message
ink.net...
Yes Del. The CDEC mask experiments were conducted at Hunter Ligget
(sp??). At least we got most weekends off and many were three day
weekends. Family housing for the troops was at Fort Ord so guys only
saw the families on the weekends. Divorce rate was very high.

Due to heat our workdays started about 0330 for breakfast and I seem to
remember most days finishing with the noon meal also known as LRC.

Those were not the good old days. Morale was lower than whale manure.

Butch
At least in Computer division, the computers needed air conditioned
trailers. So we got them too. Our motto was "we won't fight and you
can't make us" :-) at least that was the enlisted draftee motto. I
commuted to Salinas. We had a carpool and worked 730 to 430

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:08:43 -0500, "Del Cecchi" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:13:45 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:

Was stationed at Camp Roberts 63. I was in the 59th Engineer Company
(Combat/Seperate) attached to the 194th Armored Bde which had a tank Bn
at
Roberts. This was a Regular Army outfit

Spent seven months there and TDY to Hunter Ligget to run experiments.
Our
unit was tested for endurance wearing a gas mask for several days and
nights
at a time. Yes, we slept in them. We did get to remove them for meals
only. We all were required to wear sanitary pads with little bulb
thermometers up our U NO whats. Guys with white coats and clip boards
would
take our temps from time to time by plugging into a lead attached to
our
shirt collars.

We were required to do things like build timber trestle bridges under
these
conditions. Several men per day would pass out after the first couple
of
days. At least there was plenty of medical attention available.

I spent seven months in that unit. Out of over 35 years of active duty
that
was the only assignment I absolutely hated.

Butch
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time
frame.
Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget).
Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the
relationship
any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with
training
planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Even an hour in a protective mask at Roberts would be a bitch. My
commendation
on putting up with such ****! That had to be rough.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

He wasn't at hungry maggot lifer reservation? Home of Combat Development
Experimentation Command.


Guess you're right. The weather is the same. Miserable. Although the evenings
were pretty nice as I recall.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."