JimH wrote:

I already told you. You chose not to listen.

*******

No, you didn't.

The only response you made in this thread was:


And you complain about *others* ruining perfectly fine threads Chuck?


This thread *was* about 2 young men, both Marines, that I am proud of
yet
you had to turn it into a political one about the war.


Pretty pathetic Chuck.


*********************

You stated that no matter how one felt about the war, they should
support the troops.
I agreed, and said that while I am against the war I honor the courage
and sacrifice of the troops being ordered to do their duty there. You
responded by charging me with turning your
off-topic thread into an off-topic political thread (thereby ruining
it), and classifying my behavior as pathetic.

So I repeat my question: Which statement did you find more pathetic?

And no, you haven't answered.

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JimH wrote:

I already told you. You chose not to listen.

*******

No, you didn't.

The only response you made in this thread was:


And you complain about *others* ruining perfectly fine threads Chuck?


This thread *was* about 2 young men, both Marines, that I am proud of
yet
you had to turn it into a political one about the war.


Pretty pathetic Chuck.


*********************

You stated that no matter how one felt about the war, they should
support the troops.
I agreed, and said that while I am against the war I honor the courage
and sacrifice of the troops being ordered to do their duty there. You
responded by charging me with turning your
off-topic thread into an off-topic political thread (thereby ruining
it), and classifying my behavior as pathetic.

So I repeat my question: Which statement did you find more pathetic?

And no, you haven't answered.


I find the fact the you ruined a nice thread pathetic.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:27:40 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:44:26 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


On 17 Jun 2005 21:32:26 -0700, wrote:


Screw the war, but honor the troops.

With all due respect Chuck, the troops are the war. You can't hate
one and love the other - they are one and the same.


On second thought, I have to disagree with you. I was not in favor of going to
war in Iraq, but I do think the troops are doing commendable work over there.
When fire fighters go to fight a fire, we don't have to be in favor of the fire
to commend the fire fighters.


You honor the troops by bringing them home alive.

- - -


Life in Lubbock Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you
and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most
awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you
love. - Butch Hancock


I came home alive, but sure didn't feel honored.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:31:03 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 21:32:26 -0700, wrote:


Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers

*********

The war, along with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap.

The young men and women who do their duty there
are heroic. Each one killed, wounded, or separated
on multiple extended tours from home and family is a national tragedy.

Screw the war, but honor the troops. It is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the
war itself are all wrong.


Deliberately lied? You're turning into a regular krausite!

You seem to forget:



"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002


D'oh. The evidence is mounting that Bush had the "intel" evidence
"cooked" to support his positions before he had it passed along to
members of Congress.

In other words, he had the "intel" changed to support his predisposition
to invade Iraq.

There is good coming out of Bush's dirty war. He's a half year into his
term and he's becoming a lame duck. Taht's good for America and good for
the world.

Duh...bull****.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:08:41 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"ed" wrote in message
...

This is just my opinion, but I disgree with the war in Iraq, think we were
lied to by our leaders and should have waited for the United Nations
backing. I do how ever support our troops, they have no choice in the
matter of being over there, putting their lifes in harms way every day
every minute while they are over there. Again, just my view on the war,
not asking anyone to agree or disagree.


All of our troops are volunteers. They are in Iraq because they willingly
signed on the dotted line.



D'oh, but if they are sent to Iraq, they have to go. Once you volunteer
for the military, it owns your ass.

Tell us about the dangers you faced as a stateside marine, bertie.

Harry, you're in no position to denigrate *anyone's* military service!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:58:31 -0400, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


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Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers

*********

The war, along with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap.

Everyone within the borders of the US has benefited from the war, currenlty
being hotly contested in Afganistan and Iraq.

The young men and women who do their duty there
are heroic. Each one killed, wounded, or separated
on multiple extended tours from home and family is a national tragedy.

It is a personal tradgedy for each family and a sacrifice to the greater
good of the US.

For the first ten years of my life my father, a naval officer, was at home,
ship in port or on shore duty, for of those years four years. Most of this
was prior to to Vietnam. Was this a national tragedy?

Screw the war, but honor the troops. It is possible to do both at once.

No, you can't do both at the same time. It is demoralizing to the men and
women fighting the war.

People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the
war itself are all wrong.

If you believe that the war is wrong then you must also believe that the
troops serving in that war are wrong.



If you believe a house fire is a bad thing, must you also believe the fire
fighters are bad?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 18 Jun 2005 08:52:04 -0700, wrote:

Now, go have a great day!

********

I will.

Tell me, John, which of the people on that carefully selected list of
Democrats was Commander in Chief and had the *power* to commit the
troops to battle?

Which of these people ran the Exectuive Branch and quote, "fixed" the
intelligence in the summer of 2002 to support the invasion of Iraq?

Which of these people represents the corporation that is raking in tens
of billions per month without contract, without competitive bid, etc?

I'd be very interested in your answer.

You have a nice day, too.

None, to my knowledge. So what?

Have a *better* day! And, thank God Kerry didn't get elected.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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I already told you. You chose not to listen.


*******


No, you didn't.


The only response you made in this thread was:


And you complain about *others* ruining perfectly fine threads Chuck?


This thread *was* about 2 young men, both Marines, that I am proud of
yet
you had to turn it into a political one about the war.


Pretty pathetic Chuck.


*********************


You stated that no matter how one felt about the war, they should
support the troops.
I agreed, and said that while I am against the war I honor the courage
and sacrifice of the troops being ordered to do their duty there. You
responded by charging me with turning your
off-topic thread into an off-topic political thread (thereby ruining
it), and classifying my behavior as pathetic.


So I repeat my question: Which statement did you find more pathetic?


And no, you haven't answered.



I find the fact the you ruined a nice thread pathetic.

*******

I "ruined" your thread by agreeing with you? Yeah, I guess that
probably would just about ruin it as far as you're concerned.

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JimH wrote:

I already told you. You chose not to listen.


*******


No, you didn't.


The only response you made in this thread was:


And you complain about *others* ruining perfectly fine threads Chuck?


This thread *was* about 2 young men, both Marines, that I am proud of
yet
you had to turn it into a political one about the war.


Pretty pathetic Chuck.


*********************


You stated that no matter how one felt about the war, they should
support the troops.
I agreed, and said that while I am against the war I honor the courage
and sacrifice of the troops being ordered to do their duty there. You
responded by charging me with turning your
off-topic thread into an off-topic political thread (thereby ruining
it), and classifying my behavior as pathetic.


So I repeat my question: Which statement did you find more pathetic?


And no, you haven't answered.



I find the fact the you ruined a nice thread pathetic.

*******

I "ruined" your thread by agreeing with you? Yeah, I guess that
probably would just about ruin it as far as you're concerned.


Spin, spin, spin. I knew it was coming.

Go find someone else to antagonize. You are a bitter man Chuck and need to
smell the roses.

Go find someone else to antagonize. You are a bitter man Chuck and need
to
smell the roses.


***********

No doubt the roses, and anything else that thrives on BS, grow
abundantly in Avon Lake. Funny, though, all that seems to waft down the
wind is the scent of fertilizer itself.