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NOYB June 21st 05 02:56 AM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


In the end, some form of Social Security reform will also be
implemented. Perhaps it will be an older age to collect benefits.
Perhaps it will be lower benefits for the affluent. Perhaps it will be
partial privatization for people under age 35. In any case, Bush's
strategy will have been responsible for the change.

Wonderful rationalization for upcoming backpedaling, but b.s



You obviously don't know much about negotiations...particularly
negotiations in which you hold all the cards.


The sort of political arrogance your side exhibits is what is leading to
its downfall


Downfall? Republicans have won the last two Presidential elections, have
added seats in the House and Senate in 2000, 2002, and 2004, and have
increased the number of Governors in each of those same years.

You better look up the definition of "downfall".



Don White June 21st 05 03:19 AM

HarryKrause wrote:
snip..

So, Bertie, tell us all about the titty clubs you visited while you were
defending American from saggy breasts.


Now there's an idea. Bert could help the recruiting program. He could
list all his activities while in the USMC R and suck those poor
impressionable high school kids in.

Bert Robbins June 21st 05 12:24 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
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HarryKrause wrote:
snip..

So, Bertie, tell us all about the titty clubs you visited while you were
defending American from saggy breasts.


Now there's an idea. Bert could help the recruiting program. He could
list all his activities while in the USMC R and suck those poor
impressionable high school kids in.


Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed military service
you served in.




[email protected] June 21st 05 01:20 PM



NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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N.L. Eckert wrote:


Very well said, my feelings exactly....
==================================
Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers ********* The war, along
with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap. The young men and women who do their
duty there are heroic. Each one
killed, wounded, or separated on multiple extended tours from home and
family is a national tragedy. Screw the war, but honor the troops. It
is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are
forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the war itself are
all
wrong.



And a pox on all of those who are making a monetary profit off this
war.



Does that include the businesses which are able to turn profits only
because oil hasn't hit $100/barrel?


Are you referring to the price Bush and the neocons hope their actions
will lead to?



I'm referring to the price that oil would climb to if we never went into
Iraq, withdrew from Saudi Arabia, and let bin Laden overthrow the Saudi
royals and control all of the oil in the Middle East.



Climb? It would be lower.


Really? If bin Laden controlled the Middle East oil, it would lower oil
prices?

I'm fascinated to hear your reasoning.


His reasoning is simple, you have no idea whether or not bin Laden
would control mid east oil. Pure speculation. And ignorance.


NOYB June 21st 05 03:36 PM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


NOYB wrote:



In the end, some form of Social Security reform will also be
implemented. Perhaps it will be an older age to collect benefits.
Perhaps it will be lower benefits for the affluent. Perhaps it will
be partial privatization for people under age 35. In any case, Bush's
strategy will have been responsible for the change.

Wonderful rationalization for upcoming backpedaling, but b.s


You obviously don't know much about negotiations...particularly
negotiations in which you hold all the cards.

The sort of political arrogance your side exhibits is what is leading to
its downfall



Downfall? Republicans have won the last two Presidential elections, have
added seats in the House and Senate in 2000, 2002, and 2004, and have
increased the number of Governors in each of those same years.

You better look up the definition of "downfall".




You have nowhere to go but...down.


Sure we do. Can you say "filibuster-busting supermajority"?



NOYB June 21st 05 03:38 PM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


N.L. Eckert wrote:


Very well said, my feelings exactly....
==================================
Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and
women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers ********* The war,
along
with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap. The young men and women who do their
duty there are heroic. Each one
killed, wounded, or separated on multiple extended tours from home
and
family is a national tragedy. Screw the war, but honor the troops.
It
is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are
forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the war itself
are
all
wrong.



And a pox on all of those who are making a monetary profit off this
war.



Does that include the businesses which are able to turn profits only
because oil hasn't hit $100/barrel?


Are you referring to the price Bush and the neocons hope their actions
will lead to?



I'm referring to the price that oil would climb to if we never went
into
Iraq, withdrew from Saudi Arabia, and let bin Laden overthrow the
Saudi
royals and control all of the oil in the Middle East.


Climb? It would be lower.


Really? If bin Laden controlled the Middle East oil, it would lower oil
prices?

I'm fascinated to hear your reasoning.


His reasoning is simple, you have no idea whether or not bin Laden
would control mid east oil. Pure speculation. And ignorance.


Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.



Don White June 21st 05 04:26 PM

Bert Robbins wrote:

Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed military service
you served in.



If I told you...I'd have to terminate you! Somethings are best left unsaid.

Shortwave Sportfishing June 21st 05 04:30 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:27 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed military service
you served in.


If I told you...I'd have to terminate you! Somethings are best left unsaid.


I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.


Don White June 21st 05 04:33 PM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.


Yeah..but having that nice horse to snuggle up to on cold
nights...priceless!

Shortwave Sportfishing June 21st 05 04:46 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:31:48 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:27 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:

Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed military service
you served in.

If I told you...I'd have to terminate you! Somethings are best left unsaid.



I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.


Serving as a uniformed meter reader in some cities is more dangerous
than serving stateside as a marine.


In Bert's defense he is exactly the same as me - a former Marine. The
fact that he didn't have the chance to kill people and break stuff
isn't relevant.

Sorry. I've been reading this comment for a while now and felt it was
time to speak up.

Carry on.

Shortwave Sportfishing June 21st 05 04:47 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:33:24 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.


Yeah..but having that nice horse to snuggle up to on cold
nights...priceless!


Good point.

Shortwave Sportfishing June 21st 05 05:09 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:00:21 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:31:48 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:27 GMT, Don White
wrote:



Bert Robbins wrote:


Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the

last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed

military service
you served in.


If I told you...I'd have to terminate you! Somethings are best

left unsaid.



I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.



Serving as a uniformed meter reader in some cities is more dangerous
than serving stateside as a marine.



In Bert's defense he is exactly the same as me - a former Marine. The
fact that he didn't have the chance to kill people and break stuff
isn't relevant.

Sorry. I've been reading this comment for a while now and felt it was
time to speak up.

Carry on.

In your defense, you're a former Marine, but you're not an asshole. Bert
is.


Well, I could introduce you to somebody who thinks that way of me,
unfortunately she's married to me. :)


*JimH* June 21st 05 05:12 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:00:21 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:31:48 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:27 GMT, Don White
wrote:



Bert Robbins wrote:


Don, why is it that you always post after Harry. When was the

last time you
had and original thought?

Oh, you and Harry still haven't told anyone whcih uniformed

military service
you served in.


If I told you...I'd have to terminate you! Somethings are best

left unsaid.



I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

You served with Dudley Doright.

Serving with him had to be hazardous duty.


Serving as a uniformed meter reader in some cities is more dangerous
than serving stateside as a marine.



In Bert's defense he is exactly the same as me - a former Marine. The
fact that he didn't have the chance to kill people and break stuff
isn't relevant.

Sorry. I've been reading this comment for a while now and felt it was
time to speak up.

Carry on.

In your defense, you're a former Marine, but you're not an asshole. Bert
is.




But Krause.....you are not a former Marine but you are an asshole. Batting
1000 in the loser category once again.



[email protected] June 21st 05 05:16 PM



NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.


Childish name calling will always help the simple when they can't
further explain themselves.


[email protected] June 21st 05 05:18 PM



NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?


*JimH* June 21st 05 05:20 PM


wrote in message
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Childish name calling will always help the simple when they can't
further explain themselves.


Are you explaining *your* MO Kevin? After all, you did some name calling in
that reply of yours.



*JimH* June 21st 05 05:22 PM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb??


More so than even a rock.



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NOYB June 21st 05 06:56 PM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.


Childish name calling will always help the simple when they can't
further explain themselves.


That's not name calling. That's a casual observation. Among those who
affiliate themselves with left-of-center political ideology, you are the
dumbest of the bunch.



NOYB June 21st 05 06:57 PM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?


It would be impossible to explain to your feeble mind.



NOYB June 21st 05 07:01 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...


NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?


From bin Laden's 1996 declaration of war against America:

" I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the
nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle as
it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for the
soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace. "

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm




NOYB June 21st 05 07:14 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?


From bin Laden's 1996 declaration of war against America:

" I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the
nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle
as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for
the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace.
"

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm



More from bin Laden:

" Moreover, the presence of the world largest oil reserve makes the land of
the two Holy Places an important economical power in the Islamic world"

--------------------------------------------------------------
Are you still convinced he wasn't after the region's oil supply, Kevin?



[email protected] June 21st 05 09:47 PM



NOYB wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.

I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?


From bin Laden's 1996 declaration of war against America:

" I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the
nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle
as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for
the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace.
"

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm



More from bin Laden:

" Moreover, the presence of the world largest oil reserve makes the land of
the two Holy Places an important economical power in the Islamic world"

--------------------------------------------------------------
Are you still convinced he wasn't after the region's oil supply, Kevin?


NOYB, first I'm not Kevin, second I never, EVER said he "wasn't after
the region's oil supply". You can't understand a damned THING, can you?
What I said was "how do you know that bin Laden would now control all
of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't gone to war with Iraq"???? Now,
care to answer that? You have nothing but YOUR speculation. Would he
have TRIED to take complete control of the mideast? Hell, even that
question is a *maybe* at best. So, EVEN IF he tried, and we weren't at
war with Iraq, we could have done something then. Remember Kuwait?????


NOYB June 22nd 05 04:17 AM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup
trying
to
explain Harry out of a jam.

I'm dumb?? Then, do tell the group, NOYB, how do you know that bin
Laden would now control all of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't
invaded Iraq?

From bin Laden's 1996 declaration of war against America:

" I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of
the
nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the
battle
as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential
for
the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and
Grace.
"

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm



More from bin Laden:

" Moreover, the presence of the world largest oil reserve makes the land
of
the two Holy Places an important economical power in the Islamic world"

--------------------------------------------------------------
Are you still convinced he wasn't after the region's oil supply, Kevin?


NOYB, first I'm not Kevin, second I never, EVER said he "wasn't after
the region's oil supply". You can't understand a damned THING, can you?
What I said was "how do you know that bin Laden would now control all
of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't gone to war with Iraq"???? Now,
care to answer that? You have nothing but YOUR speculation. Would he
have TRIED to take complete control of the mideast? Hell, even that
question is a *maybe* at best. So, EVEN IF he tried, and we weren't at
war with Iraq, we could have done something then. Remember Kuwait?????


Your analogy is extremely flawed as usual.

First of all, Kuwait was attacked by another country...not from within by a
home-grown fundamentalist uprising

Secondly, we had troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, etc. at the
time Kuwait was invaded. If we had not had troops there, many speculate
that Saddam would have kept pushing into Saudi Arabia.

If bin Laden got us to leave Saudi Arabia following 9/11, we would had
virtually no militarty presence in the Middle East. His goal of
overthrowing the Saudis and creating a radical Islamic state utilizing the
wealth from the Saudi oil would have come to fruition...and we wouldn't have
had the resources in place to stop it.

Instead, we now have 130,000+ troops setting up bases smack dab in the
middle of the world's second largest oil supply...and right on the doorstep
of the world's largest oil supply. We could move on the fundamentalists in
a heartbeat if bin Laden successfully overthrew the Saudi government.

What you forget about Kuwait is that it took nearly half a year to get the
troops in place to toss Saddam out of there. Imagine Saudi oil supply was
interrupted for 6 months *and* there was no Iraqi oil supply (like we have
today). We'd have an instant meltdown of our economy. We couldn't afford
to wait 6 months to get troops in place to toss out the fundamentalists.

bin Laden greatly misjudged Bush's response. Instead of staying on the
defensive and holding our bases in Saudi Arabia (which would have become
more and more difficult due to the tremendous pressure the Saudi royals were
feeling from within), Bush made a brilliant strategic move to preempt bin
Laden's powergrab. He invaded Iraq and put 130,000+ troops in the
region...and did it in the name of liberating a country from tyranny.

The Saudis were able to relieve some of their internal strife by asking the
US to leave...and we were able to keep a foothold in the Middle East.

The reason al Qaeda has focused all their toperations in Iraq is because
they realize that none of bin Laden's plans to grab Saudi oil will ever
happen as long as the US has a strong military presence on the Saudi border.
They must first get us out of Iraq. And the liberals in the US want to help
'em do it!












[email protected] June 22nd 05 03:39 PM



NOYB wrote:


Your analogy is extremely flawed as usual.



Well, then do tell, answer the question I asked. How do you know that
if the United States hadn't invaded Iraq, that binLaden would now be in
control of all of the mideast oil? ANSWER IT, you are the one who
stated it. It's nothing but speculation, and you know it, or else you'd
answer. So, to try to make it look like you actually know something,
instead of answering the bigger picture, you took a ****ing two word
sentence and gave a long winded diatribe filled with more
speculation!!!!! And you have the audacity to call other people dumb!
Now, care to try again? Here are the questions I asked in direct
response to YOU saying that if we hadn't invaded Iraq, bin Laden would
be in control of mideast oil:
What I said was "how do you know that bin Laden would now control all
of the oil in the mideast if we hadn't gone to war with Iraq"???? Now,
care to answer that? You have nothing but YOUR speculation. Would he
have TRIED to take complete control of the mideast? Hell, even that
question is a *maybe* at best. So, EVEN IF he tried, and we weren't at
war with Iraq, we could have done something then. Remember Kuwait?????


It's simple really, just answer the questions.


NOYB June 22nd 05 08:38 PM


wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


Your analogy is extremely flawed as usual.



Well, then do tell, answer the question I asked. How do you know that
if the United States hadn't invaded Iraq, that binLaden would now be in
control of all of the mideast oil?


You snipped my answer, so here it is again:


If bin Laden got us to leave Saudi Arabia following 9/11, we would had
virtually no military presence in the Middle East. His goal of
overthrowing the Saudis and creating a radical Islamic state utilizing the
wealth from the Saudi oil would have come to fruition...and we wouldn't have
had the resources in place to stop it.

Instead, we now have 130,000+ troops setting up bases smack dab in the
middle of the world's second largest oil supply...and right on the doorstep
of the world's largest oil supply. We could move on the fundamentalists in
a heartbeat if bin Laden successfully overthrew the Saudi government.

What you forget about Kuwait is that it took nearly half a year to get the
troops in place to toss Saddam out of there. Imagine Saudi oil supply was
interrupted for 6 months *and* there was no Iraqi oil supply (unlike we have
today). We'd have an instant meltdown of our economy. We couldn't afford
to wait 6 months to get troops in place to toss out the fundamentalists.

bin Laden greatly misjudged Bush's response. Instead of staying on the
defensive and holding our bases in Saudi Arabia (which would have become
more and more difficult due to the tremendous pressure the Saudi royals were
feeling from within), Bush made a brilliant strategic move to preempt bin
Laden's powergrab. He invaded Iraq and put 130,000+ troops in the
region...and did it in the name of liberating a country from tyranny.

The Saudis were able to relieve some of their internal strife by asking the
US to leave...and we were able to keep a foothold in the Middle East.

The reason al Qaeda has focused all their toperations in Iraq is because
they realize that none of bin Laden's plans to grab Saudi oil will ever
happen as long as the US has a strong military presence on the Saudi border.
They must first get us out of Iraq. And the liberals in the US want to help
'em do it!













Don White June 22nd 05 09:47 PM

HarryKrause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...


NOYB wrote:


Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup
trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.


I'm dumb??




More so than even a rock.



He's brighter than you are, Hertvik.

.....and at least he boats!
How would we go about setting up a 'boaters only' criteria? It would
do wonders for the tone in this newsgroup.

[email protected] June 23rd 05 01:39 PM



NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


Your analogy is extremely flawed as usual.



Well, then do tell, answer the question I asked. How do you know that
if the United States hadn't invaded Iraq, that binLaden would now be in
control of all of the mideast oil?


You snipped my answer, so here it is again:


If bin Laden got us to leave Saudi Arabia following 9/11, we would had
virtually no military presence in the Middle East. His goal of
overthrowing the Saudis and creating a radical Islamic state utilizing the
wealth from the Saudi oil would have come to fruition...and we wouldn't have
had the resources in place to stop it.

Instead, we now have 130,000+ troops setting up bases smack dab in the
middle of the world's second largest oil supply...and right on the doorstep
of the world's largest oil supply. We could move on the fundamentalists in
a heartbeat if bin Laden successfully overthrew the Saudi government.

What you forget about Kuwait is that it took nearly half a year to get the
troops in place to toss Saddam out of there. Imagine Saudi oil supply was
interrupted for 6 months *and* there was no Iraqi oil supply (unlike we have
today). We'd have an instant meltdown of our economy. We couldn't afford
to wait 6 months to get troops in place to toss out the fundamentalists.

bin Laden greatly misjudged Bush's response. Instead of staying on the
defensive and holding our bases in Saudi Arabia (which would have become
more and more difficult due to the tremendous pressure the Saudi royals were
feeling from within), Bush made a brilliant strategic move to preempt bin
Laden's powergrab. He invaded Iraq and put 130,000+ troops in the
region...and did it in the name of liberating a country from tyranny.

The Saudis were able to relieve some of their internal strife by asking the
US to leave...and we were able to keep a foothold in the Middle East.

The reason al Qaeda has focused all their toperations in Iraq is because
they realize that none of bin Laden's plans to grab Saudi oil will ever
happen as long as the US has a strong military presence on the Saudi border.
They must first get us out of Iraq. And the liberals in the US want to help
'em do it!


So that is your criteria for KNOWING that if we hadn't gone to Iraq,
that bin Laden would have succeeded in taking over all of the mideast's
oil supplies??????!!!!!!!! You have GOT to be kidding.........
So, now that I've quit laughing, let me get this straight. You KNOW FOR
A FACT, that because bin Laden said he wanted to control the oil
supply, that if we hadn't invaded Iraq, that he would have
succeeded????? Oh, my god......


Newsgroup Reader June 23rd 05 10:37 PM

Can i see a copy of the pink slip for your 36' Lobster Boat?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
HarryKrause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup
trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.



I'm dumb??




More so than even a rock.



He's brighter than you are, Hertvik.

....and at least he boats!
How would we go about setting up a 'boaters only' criteria? It would do
wonders for the tone in this newsgroup.



Pink slips or something else showing current registration!

--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




*JimH* June 23rd 05 10:50 PM



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
HarryKrause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


Oh, this is a gem! Here we have dumbest leftie on the newsgroup
trying to
explain Harry out of a jam.



I'm dumb??




More so than even a rock.



He's brighter than you are, Hert.

....and at least he boats.


I went boating on Tuesday. When was the last time you took your boat out
Krause?


How would we go about setting up a 'boaters only' criteria? It would
do wonders for the tone in this newsgroup.



One can be a boater and still not own a boat. But that sort of logic is
beyond that hockey puck dented brain of yours.....eh Don?

And is boat ownership some sort of status thing for you? If so, I earned my
25 year membership. If I recall, you just saved up enough money (and you
are retired and living with your mother if I recall) to finally buy a little
sailing boat.

You could not even afford a decent snowblower if I recall also and settled
for the $79 red light special at KMart.....an electric broom type. How
brilliant for someone living up north.



Pink slips or something else showing current registration!

--



Yep, let's see the pink slip for that custom made 32 foot lobster boat.

Oh................I forgot......................you don't own one.

How funny.



John H June 24th 05 01:48 AM

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:17:56 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

....and at least he boats.



I went boating on Tuesday. When was the last time you took your boat out
Krause?


Someone took you for a boat ride. How nice.
I take my boats out several times a week. Since I live close by them,
there is no need for me to spend the entire day on them when I go
boating. We'll be out again Saturday or Sunday, if the weather is decent.

Oh...don't look back, Hertvik. Some kid on a Big Wheels might be
stalking you.




If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.


Harry, Harry, Harry....
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

*JimH* June 24th 05 01:57 AM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:17:56 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

....and at least he boats.


I went boating on Tuesday. When was the last time you took your boat
out
Krause?


Someone took you for a boat ride. How nice.


Yep.


I take my boats out several times a week.


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since I live close by them,


I thought you previously said you moved your mysterious custom made 32
footer further away.

Another lie?

Why am I not surprised?


there is no need for me to spend the entire day on them when I go
boating. We'll be out again Saturday or Sunday, if the weather is decent.


Do tell us about those adventures and which boat you chose to take out.

He-he-he.



Oh...don't look back, Hertv. Some kid on a Big Wheels might be
stalking you.



So when did you last take out that luxurious 23 foot fishing boat Krause?

Yo........Whore?

What where your winterization and winter storage charges for that boat last
year compared to "Yo-Whore"?



Newsgroup Reader June 24th 05 04:30 AM

Harry does not allow Google to archive" his posts because someone once
showed that during the hours of 7 am and 12 am, he was never away from his
keyboard for more than 30 min. It makes it hard to talk about all your
boating experiences when you never leave your keyboard.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:17:56 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

....and at least he boats.


I went boating on Tuesday. When was the last time you took your boat
out
Krause?

Someone took you for a boat ride. How nice.


Yep.


I take my boats out several times a week.


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since I live close by them,


I thought you previously said you moved your mysterious custom made 32
footer further away.

Another lie?

Why am I not surprised?


there is no need for me to spend the entire day on them when I go
boating. We'll be out again Saturday or Sunday, if the weather is decent.


Do tell us about those adventures and which boat you chose to take out.

He-he-he.



Oh...don't look back, Hertv. Some kid on a Big Wheels might be
stalking you.



So when did you last take out that luxurious 23 foot fishing boat Krause?

Yo........Whore?

What where your winterization and winter storage charges for that boat
last year compared to "Yo-Whore"?




Charles June 24th 05 01:50 PM

HarryKrause wrote:

Naw, nowadays I do it because it gives boatless, pus-filled rectal
fissures like you and Hertvik something to whine about...


Naw, the real reason you no longer archive your posts is because you
were getting tangled up in your own lies. You don't want others to be
able to google and see what a nasty, self-centered, egotistical
individual you really are, and how your stories change over time.

It's hard to comprehend an individual so self-absorbed he would
gratitiously post links to pictures of his driveway being paved in a
boating newsgroup.

Twerp.

-- Charlie

Newsgroup Reader June 24th 05 02:02 PM

I am not sure what a wakeboard boat is, but I didn't sell it.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Newsgroup Reader wrote:
Harry does not allow Google to archive" his posts because someone once
showed that during the hours of 7 am and 12 am, he was never away from
his keyboard for more than 30 min. It makes it hard to talk about all
your boating experiences when you never leave your keyboard.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:17:56 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:


....and at least he boats.


I went boating on Tuesday. When was the last time you took your boat
out
Krause?

Someone took you for a boat ride. How nice.

Yep.



I take my boats out several times a week.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Since I live close by them,

I thought you previously said you moved your mysterious custom made 32
footer further away.

Another lie?

Why am I not surprised?



there is no need for me to spend the entire day on them when I go
boating. We'll be out again Saturday or Sunday, if the weather is
decent.

Do tell us about those adventures and which boat you chose to take out.

He-he-he.



Oh...don't look back, Hertv. Some kid on a Big Wheels might be
stalking you.



So when did you last take out that luxurious 23 foot fishing boat Krause?

Yo........Whore?

What where your winterization and winter storage charges for that boat
last year compared to "Yo-Whore"?





Naw, nowadays I do it because it gives boatless, pus-filled rectal
fissures like you and Hertvik something to whine about...

When did you sell that wakeboard boat, Smithers?




--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




N.L. Eckert June 25th 05 03:25 PM

N.L. Eckert wrote:
Very well said, my feelings exactly....
==================================
Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers
*********
The war, along with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap.
The young men and women who do their duty there are heroic. Each one
killed, wounded, or separated on multiple extended tours from home and
family is a national tragedy.
Screw the war, but honor the troops. It is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the war itself are all
wrong.
And a pox on all of those who are making a monetary profit off this war.
--
==================================
Well, I feel that I can relate to this and I"m sure there are some
others in this group that can do the same. I was called back to
active duty when the Korean War broke out. I was told that it would
be for one years service and no more than 6 months in Korea. I spent
about 7 months in North Korea because of my spec. no., I had to train a
new man to take my place. But true to their word, I was on my way back
home after my 7 month tour of duty and was treated royally in the States
when I returned. I still remember having filet for dinner in the mess
hall. The closest thing to gormet food I ever had in the Army.

These people in Iraq are having their tours extended constantly because
Bush is running out of "cannon fodder". They are fighting a fanatical
group of people that care not if they live or die. The government
tends to hide the fact that there have been a number of suicides by
troops that when they find that they are not to be rotated out, just
can't face another tour in this armpit of the world.

I maintain that LBJ (58,000 dead GIs and for what????) was the worst
prez of the 20th Century, but Bush is running a close second........



John H June 25th 05 04:51 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:25:50 -0400, (N.L. Eckert) wrote:

N.L. Eckert wrote:
Very well said, my feelings exactly....
==================================
Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers
*********
The war, along with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap.
The young men and women who do their duty there are heroic. Each one
killed, wounded, or separated on multiple extended tours from home and
family is a national tragedy.
Screw the war, but honor the troops. It is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the war itself are all
wrong.
And a pox on all of those who are making a monetary profit off this war.


It's a shame there wasn't a decent alternative in the last election.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Bert Robbins June 25th 05 07:09 PM


"N.L. Eckert" wrote in message
...
N.L. Eckert wrote:
Very well said, my feelings exactly....
==================================
Despite your feelings about the war please keep all our men and women
serving in our Armed Forces in your prayers
*********
The war, along with the people who deliberately lied us into it and are
now profiting from it is crap.
The young men and women who do their duty there are heroic. Each one
killed, wounded, or separated on multiple extended tours from home and
family is a national tragedy.
Screw the war, but honor the troops. It is possible to do both at once.
People who feel that we must despise the troops because they are forced
to serve in a bogus war as well as people who feel that we cannot
respect and value the troops without cheering for the war itself are all
wrong.
And a pox on all of those who are making a monetary profit off this war.
--
==================================
Well, I feel that I can relate to this and I"m sure there are some
others in this group that can do the same. I was called back to
active duty when the Korean War broke out. I was told that it would
be for one years service and no more than 6 months in Korea. I spent
about 7 months in North Korea because of my spec. no., I had to train a
new man to take my place. But true to their word, I was on my way back
home after my 7 month tour of duty and was treated royally in the States
when I returned. I still remember having filet for dinner in the mess
hall. The closest thing to gormet food I ever had in the Army.

These people in Iraq are having their tours extended constantly because
Bush is running out of "cannon fodder". They are fighting a fanatical
group of people that care not if they live or die. The government
tends to hide the fact that there have been a number of suicides by
troops that when they find that they are not to be rotated out, just
can't face another tour in this armpit of the world.

I maintain that LBJ (58,000 dead GIs and for what????) was the worst
prez of the 20th Century, but Bush is running a close second........


I agree that Johnson was the worst president we have ever had. The great
society program has proven to be the worst money pit, besides Social
Security. Johnson treated the Vietnam war as his personal play thing.





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