John H wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:39:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


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*JimH* wrote:

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(WSB Radio) -- Cherokee County authorities are investigating a scary
summer trend of teens apparently randomly shooting at passing vehicles.

WSB's Veronica Waters reports a mailman escaped injury when two boys,
13 and 14, shot up his truck with an air rifle Monday. But Cherokee
Sheriff's Spokeswoman Nicole Ebbeskotte says detectives are still
hoping to get x-rays which might help determine what injured a
14-year-old girl who was hit in the head as she rode in the car with
her mom on Ball Ground Highway June 8.

"Because of the way it struck the juvenile, we are not able to get full
access to the projectile," Ebbeskotte tells WSB. "So we might not ever
know if it was truly a bullet or what it actually was."

Police haven't found the weapon the 15-year-old suspect allegedly used
in the girl's shooting, though he is reportedly cooperating with the
investigation. All three teens are charged with terroristic acts, and
were released into their parents' custody.

Thursday, 16 June 2005


So what does this have to do with federal authorities and homeland security
Kevin?

And how about a link to that story?


I looked and looked, but could find nothing in the story relating to the
Department of Homeland Security. Did I miss something?

Are the Cherokee County police an undercover unit of DHS? Or is someone just
making up some crap?
--
John H

I just KNEW I'd have to explain it ad nauseum to YOU!! The charge!!!!
The CHARGE!!! It is a charge that is NOT a state law, BUT IS a Federal
charge under the DHS. Jeesh......like trying to get a cat to understand
the theory of relativity.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0700, atl_man2 wrote:


I just KNEW I'd have to explain it ad nauseum to YOU!! The charge!!!!
The CHARGE!!! It is a charge that is NOT a state law, BUT IS a Federal
charge under the DHS. Jeesh......like trying to get a cat to understand
the theory of relativity.


Sorry, but many states have a "Terroristic Threat" Law. Most are related
to terrorizing a person, and predate Homeland Security. New Jersey's is
typical:

Terroristic threats


2C:12-3. Terroristic threats
a. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another or
to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of
public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public
inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such
terror or inconvenience.

b. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to kill another with purpose to put him in imminent fear of death
under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the
immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried
out.

L.1978, c. 95, s. 2C:12-3, eff. Sept. 1, 1979; L.1981, c. 290, s. 15,
eff. Sept. 24, 1981.


http://www.jfrlaw.com/criminal_statutes/2c123.htm

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0700, atl_man2 wrote:


I just KNEW I'd have to explain it ad nauseum to YOU!! The charge!!!!
The CHARGE!!! It is a charge that is NOT a state law, BUT IS a Federal
charge under the DHS. Jeesh......like trying to get a cat to understand
the theory of relativity.


Sorry, but many states have a "Terroristic Threat" Law. Most are related
to terrorizing a person, and predate Homeland Security. New Jersey's is
typical:

Terroristic threats


2C:12-3. Terroristic threats
a. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another or
to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of
public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public
inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such
terror or inconvenience.

b. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to kill another with purpose to put him in imminent fear of death
under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the
immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried
out.

L.1978, c. 95, s. 2C:12-3, eff. Sept. 1, 1979; L.1981, c. 290, s. 15,
eff. Sept. 24, 1981.


http://www.jfrlaw.com/criminal_statutes/2c123.htm


Georgia isn't New Jersey.

Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0700, atl_man2 wrote:

John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?

Kevin,
Are you really too stupid to figure out how to use Google?

http://www.abtlaw.com/violent-crime-definitions.html

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...de/G/16/11/160


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?

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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?


Site? I think you mean *cite*. And you are making fun of others for typos?
My my.

BTW: I see you corrected your little mistake with another post.

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...ode/G/16/11/37


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?

John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.

Nice try.....cite?

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...ode/G/16/11/37


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.

Nice try.....cite?