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[email protected] June 17th 05 12:52 PM



thunder wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0700, atl_man2 wrote:


I just KNEW I'd have to explain it ad nauseum to YOU!! The charge!!!!
The CHARGE!!! It is a charge that is NOT a state law, BUT IS a Federal
charge under the DHS. Jeesh......like trying to get a cat to understand
the theory of relativity.



Sorry, but many states have a "Terroristic Threat" Law. Most are related
to terrorizing a person, and predate Homeland Security. New Jersey's is
typical:

Terroristic threats


2C:12-3. Terroristic threats
a. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another or
to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of
public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public
inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such
terror or inconvenience.

b. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens
to kill another with purpose to put him in imminent fear of death
under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the
immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried
out.

L.1978, c. 95, s. 2C:12-3, eff. Sept. 1, 1979; L.1981, c. 290, s. 15,
eff. Sept. 24, 1981.


http://www.jfrlaw.com/criminal_statutes/2c123.htm



Georgia isn't New Jersey.


[email protected] June 17th 05 12:53 PM



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?


Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


[email protected] June 17th 05 12:57 PM



John Jay wrote:
Kevin,
I know you know people could be prosecuted for terrorist acts way before
their was a Homeland Security Act. What makes you think this crime and the
prosecution of this crime has anything to do with the Homeland Security Act?


It's simple, try to follow along, okay? The Homeland Security Act
simply made it easier to convict persons. Do you HONESTLY think that
before the act, that they would arrest a couple of kids sitting on a
hill with a damned BB gun shooting at the sides of cars with
TERRORISTIC acts? Come on!!!!!

You must make liberals cringe whenever you open you mouth. You are an
embarrassment to liberals all over the world.


And because of your narrow mindedness, you're an embarrassment to
yourself! But, the Right Wing Circle Jerk Club will love you for it!


[email protected] June 17th 05 01:48 PM



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700, wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?


Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said, kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


John Jay June 17th 05 01:58 PM

Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0700, atl_man2 wrote:





John Jay June 17th 05 01:59 PM


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Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


Why does that not surprise me?




John Jay June 17th 05 02:08 PM

Kevin,

Yes they would have arrested anyone who shot at passing cars with any gun,
they would have arrested anyone who dropped something off a bridge on
passing cars. The law they charge the person with is "Terroristic Threats".
They have arrested and charged and people have been found guilty of such
crimes for many years. I can remember in the 60's when kids were arrested
and charged for Terroristic Threats for dropping pebbles off a bridge onto
passing cars. I can also remember a time in the 70's when people were
convicted of shooting a BB gun at the LI express.

The fact you do not believe the police would charge kids or anyone else for
shooting at cars with a BB gun speaks volumes about you. Anyone with a
brain are glad the police do not allow kids to shot BB guns at passing cars.


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,
I know you know people could be prosecuted for terrorist acts way before
their was a Homeland Security Act. What makes you think this crime and
the
prosecution of this crime has anything to do with the Homeland Security
Act?


It's simple, try to follow along, okay? The Homeland Security Act
simply made it easier to convict persons. Do you HONESTLY think that
before the act, that they would arrest a couple of kids sitting on a
hill with a damned BB gun shooting at the sides of cars with
TERRORISTIC acts? Come on!!!!!

You must make liberals cringe whenever you open you mouth. You are an
embarrassment to liberals all over the world.


And because of your narrow mindedness, you're an embarrassment to
yourself! But, the Right Wing Circle Jerk Club will love you for it!




John Jay June 17th 05 02:11 PM

Kevin,
No one is saying you should not be able to own a BB gun. No one is saying
you should not be able to pick up a stick. They are saying you should not
be able to shot a cars with a BB gun. They are saying you should not be
able to hit anyone with stick.

While you can be fun to play with, when you make it so easy, and you fail to
see the obvious, it can get old.



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Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700, wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.




Don White June 17th 05 03:24 PM

wrote:


Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


Kids do the dummest things with the bb guns. When they closed out the
old 'Seagull Fleet Club' on my city block, we found a way into the
building and played war, fighting room to room with BB guns. Then we
got a bit sillier... and shot a few people in the back as they walked
down the street from my 3rd floor bedrom window. I lost my Daisy BB gun
when my brother brought over a 'bad' friend and they shot out the
windshields of a couple of cars. The cops came and my rifle went. They
were illegal to use in the city.
I guess I'd have to say, without proper supervision, some kids can't be
trusted with them.

John Gaquin June 17th 05 05:04 PM


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Whew, you ARE stupid, aren't you?


Am I? You're the one who lives in Georgia and thinks Mark Morford is a
legitimate commentator.

:-)



Tim June 17th 05 05:05 PM

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Very safe fun, and brilliantly smart.

Duh


Tim June 17th 05 05:09 PM

Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal.

When it comes to somthing personal????

I'm deffinately pro-gun.
ALL firearms ( that includes BB and pellet OR maybe you exclude
those) should be used in a legal, lawful manner.


Shortwave Sportfishing June 17th 05 05:10 PM

On 17 Jun 2005 09:05:35 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Very safe fun, and brilliantly smart.

Duh


Piffle.

Really smart people use bottle rockets.

John H June 17th 05 05:40 PM

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:57:35 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

wrote:

Tim wrote:

They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?



Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


We used to have blackberry fights on my mother's aunt's farm somewhere
near Revere, Massachusetts. That's about all I remember of that place.


Harry, it is obvious from remarks you've made that you care a great deal for
basskisser, so why don't you tell him to email prospective posts to you for
review before he makes a fool of himself?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 17th 05 05:47 PM

On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said, kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock, going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts. Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] June 17th 05 06:23 PM



John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said, kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock, going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.

Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes, how about saying just that, John. You made a mistake.


[email protected] June 17th 05 06:24 PM



John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:57:35 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

wrote:

Tim wrote:

They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?


Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


We used to have blackberry fights on my mother's aunt's farm somewhere
near Revere, Massachusetts. That's about all I remember of that place.


Harry, it is obvious from remarks you've made that you care a great deal for
basskisser, so why don't you tell him to email prospective posts to you for
review before he makes a fool of himself?
--
John H

How have I done so, John? You've got "acts" mixed up with "threats",
for starters.


[email protected] June 17th 05 06:28 PM



John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Yes they would have arrested anyone who shot at passing cars with any gun,
they would have arrested anyone who dropped something off a bridge on
passing cars. The law they charge the person with is "Terroristic Threats".
They have arrested and charged and people have been found guilty of such
crimes for many years. I can remember in the 60's when kids were arrested
and charged for Terroristic Threats for dropping pebbles off a bridge onto
passing cars. I can also remember a time in the 70's when people were
convicted of shooting a BB gun at the LI express.


Oh, horse****! I lived in those days too, and never heard of such ****.
Have any proof? Oh, and please, try to act like you know something, I'm
not Kevin.

The fact you do not believe the police would charge kids or anyone else for
shooting at cars with a BB gun speaks volumes about you.


Please show where I ever said such a thing! Quite the opposite. I said
that they would charge someone with something, but NOT TERRORISTIC
THREATS....please, try to follow....

Anyone with a
brain are glad the police do not allow kids to shot BB guns at passing cars.


Again, try to follow a train of thought, okay? Where to HELL did I say
that kids should "be allowed" to shoot bb guns at passing cars? Oh, and
it IS SHOOT, not shot.


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,
I know you know people could be prosecuted for terrorist acts way before
their was a Homeland Security Act. What makes you think this crime and
the
prosecution of this crime has anything to do with the Homeland Security
Act?


It's simple, try to follow along, okay? The Homeland Security Act
simply made it easier to convict persons. Do you HONESTLY think that
before the act, that they would arrest a couple of kids sitting on a
hill with a damned BB gun shooting at the sides of cars with
TERRORISTIC acts? Come on!!!!!

You must make liberals cringe whenever you open you mouth. You are an
embarrassment to liberals all over the world.


And because of your narrow mindedness, you're an embarrassment to
yourself! But, the Right Wing Circle Jerk Club will love you for it!



*JimH* June 17th 05 06:33 PM


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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.


No? I guess you don't even know what you initially posted. Here is one
sentence from that post of yours: "Now, a couple of young boys in northern
GA were arrested for "terroristic acts"."

Idiot.



Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes,


Good. Time to move on Kevin.



Bill McKee June 17th 05 07:11 PM


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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?



The kid could be on the side of the road in front of the vehicle, on an
overpass in front of the vehicle. I had a company car that got hit by a
quart bottle of liquid dropped from an overpass and there was major damage
to the window frame where it hit. Lucked out that he was a second slow in
dropping or it would have come through the windshield. We have had people
killed by people rocks dropped off overpasses, as well as snipers have
killed people. Is a serious case of terrorism to the drivers when there is
a sniper loose.



John Jay June 17th 05 07:56 PM

Kevin,
You have not heard of many things, you really are the king

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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Yes they would have arrested anyone who shot at passing cars with any
gun,
they would have arrested anyone who dropped something off a bridge on
passing cars. The law they charge the person with is "Terroristic
Threats".
They have arrested and charged and people have been found guilty of such
crimes for many years. I can remember in the 60's when kids were
arrested
and charged for Terroristic Threats for dropping pebbles off a bridge
onto
passing cars. I can also remember a time in the 70's when people were
convicted of shooting a BB gun at the LI express.


Oh, horse****! I lived in those days too, and never heard of such ****.
Have any proof? Oh, and please, try to act like you know something, I'm
not Kevin.

The fact you do not believe the police would charge kids or anyone else
for
shooting at cars with a BB gun speaks volumes about you.


Please show where I ever said such a thing! Quite the opposite. I said
that they would charge someone with something, but NOT TERRORISTIC
THREATS....please, try to follow....

Anyone with a
brain are glad the police do not allow kids to shot BB guns at passing
cars.


Again, try to follow a train of thought, okay? Where to HELL did I say
that kids should "be allowed" to shoot bb guns at passing cars? Oh, and
it IS SHOOT, not shot.


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,
I know you know people could be prosecuted for terrorist acts way
before
their was a Homeland Security Act. What makes you think this crime
and
the
prosecution of this crime has anything to do with the Homeland
Security
Act?

It's simple, try to follow along, okay? The Homeland Security Act
simply made it easier to convict persons. Do you HONESTLY think that
before the act, that they would arrest a couple of kids sitting on a
hill with a damned BB gun shooting at the sides of cars with
TERRORISTIC acts? Come on!!!!!

You must make liberals cringe whenever you open you mouth. You are an
embarrassment to liberals all over the world.

And because of your narrow mindedness, you're an embarrassment to
yourself! But, the Right Wing Circle Jerk Club will love you for it!





John Jay June 17th 05 08:00 PM

Here is the law about Terrorist threats: Terroristic Threats in the
Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.

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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.

Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes, how about saying just that, John. You made a mistake.




[email protected] June 17th 05 08:08 PM



*JimH* wrote:
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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.

I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.


No? I guess you don't even know what you initially posted. Here is one
sentence from that post of yours: "Now, a couple of young boys in northern
GA were arrested for "terroristic acts"."

Idiot.



Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes,


Good. Time to move on Kevin.


Oh, Jim, can you possibly get more childish?? I thought that sort of
**** was beneath you, and I was certainly correct in my assumptions
that you've reverted back to your childish actions. You should be
ashamed of yourself. You deliberately snipped my reply to make it sound
like I was admitting something. I thought for awhile that you'd
changed, but by doing the above childish actions, you've proven
yourself worthy of Fritz's charms. Too bad you don't have the mental
capacity to debate something without stooping so damned low.


[email protected] June 17th 05 08:13 PM



John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?


[email protected] June 17th 05 08:13 PM



John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than $
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.

Nice try.....cite?


John H June 17th 05 08:16 PM

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:57:35 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:


wrote:

Tim wrote:


They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?


Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!


We used to have blackberry fights on my mother's aunt's farm somewhere
near Revere, Massachusetts. That's about all I remember of that place.



Harry, it is obvious from remarks you've made that you care a great deal for
basskisser, so why don't you tell him to email prospective posts to you for
review before he makes a fool of himself?


John:

You're a retired officer and therefore I assume you have some expertise
with firearms. Why not drive around to the houses of the various
Conservatrashers who post here, and show them how to put themselves out
of their misery?


I don't think you need to take that extreme with beekay. Just show him the error
of his ways, in a nice way of course.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 17th 05 08:20 PM

On 17 Jun 2005 10:23:21 -0700, wrote:



John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700,
wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I said, kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to shoot at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out. Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to 600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.


I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car still be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock, going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.

Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at DHS will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes, how about saying just that, John. You made a mistake.


Trying to talk in a rational, non-threatening, non-namecalling manner with you
was a mistake. I should have kept my mouth shut. You are correct - I made a boo
boo!

You're an 'engineer'?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John Jay June 17th 05 08:20 PM

Kevin,
Are you really too stupid to figure out how to use Google?

http://www.abtlaw.com/violent-crime-definitions.html

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...de/G/16/11/160


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?




*JimH* June 17th 05 08:22 PM


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John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?


Site? I think you mean *cite*. And you are making fun of others for typos?
My my.

BTW: I see you corrected your little mistake with another post.



*JimH* June 17th 05 08:31 PM


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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I
said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to
shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little
Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out.
Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to
600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from
skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.

I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car
still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?

Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.

I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.


No? I guess you don't even know what you initially posted. Here is one
sentence from that post of yours: "Now, a couple of young boys in
northern
GA were arrested for "terroristic acts"."

Idiot.



Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at
DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes,


Good. Time to move on Kevin.


Oh, Jim, can you possibly get more childish?? I thought that sort of
**** was beneath you, and I was certainly correct in my assumptions
that you've reverted back to your childish actions. You should be
ashamed of yourself. You deliberately snipped my reply to make it sound
like I was admitting something. I thought for awhile that you'd
changed, but by doing the above childish actions, you've proven
yourself worthy of Fritz's charms. Too bad you don't have the mental
capacity to debate something without stooping so damned low.


You are correct Kevin. I should not have called you an idiot for not
knowing what you post within the same thread from one minute to another. I
should not have called you an idiot for starting this thread. I should not
have called you an idiot because you point out typos made by others when you
don't know the difference between the words 'they're" and 'there'.

Calling you an idiot was actually a compliment to you. I *should* have
called you brainless.



*JimH* June 17th 05 08:32 PM


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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I
said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to
shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when
it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at
passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little
Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out.
Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to
600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from
skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.

I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car
still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?

Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.

I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.

No? I guess you don't even know what you initially posted. Here is one
sentence from that post of yours: "Now, a couple of young boys in
northern
GA were arrested for "terroristic acts"."

Idiot.



Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at
DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes,

Good. Time to move on Kevin.


Oh, Jim, can you possibly get more childish?? I thought that sort of
**** was beneath you, and I was certainly correct in my assumptions
that you've reverted back to your childish actions. You should be
ashamed of yourself. You deliberately snipped my reply to make it sound
like I was admitting something. I thought for awhile that you'd
changed, but by doing the above childish actions, you've proven
yourself worthy of Fritz's charms. Too bad you don't have the mental
capacity to debate something without stooping so damned low.


You are correct Kevin. I should not have called you an idiot for not
knowing what you post within the same thread from one minute to another.
I should not have called you an idiot for starting this thread. I should
not have called you an idiot because you point out typos made by others
when you don't know the difference between the words 'they're" and
'there'.

Calling you an idiot was actually a compliment to you. I *should* have
called you brainless.


BTW I forgot to add: I should not have called you an idiot because you
point out typos made by others when you don't know when to use the word
*you're* instead of 'your'.



[email protected] June 17th 05 08:45 PM



John Gaquin wrote:
wrote in message

Whew, you ARE stupid, aren't you?


Am I? You're the one who lives in Georgia and thinks Mark Morford is a
legitimate commentator.

What does living in Georgia have to do with anything? If you'd like to
compare statistics, let's do so. I suppose, like so many other people
that are ignorant of the facts, that you think that GA is full of
inbred idiots, huh? Now, if you'd also like to debate Mark Morford, do
tell, what do you know of his education? What do you know of his
intellect? What do you know of his expertise in political reporting?
What has he said do you disagree with and why? Be specific. Oh, and
yes, you ARE stupid.


John Jay June 17th 05 08:45 PM

Harry,
It really is sad to see Kevin make sure a fool out of himself. We really
should feel sorry for him, and not point out his mistakes.

I for one will try to do better.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:


You are correct Kevin. I should not have called you an idiot for not
knowing what you post within the same thread from one minute to another.
I should not have called you an idiot for starting this thread. I should
not have called you an idiot because you point out typos made by others
when you don't know the difference between the words 'they're" and
'there'.

Calling you an idiot was actually a compliment to you. I *should* have
called you brainless.


Don't you, Ftitz, Herring, Smithers, et al, have anything more useful to
do with your time than continue your piling on Bass over and over and over
and over?

I mean, if any of you ever had anything clever to say, ok...but you four
can't seem to write a witty topical sentence.

Sheesh.




--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




[email protected] June 17th 05 08:47 PM



Tim wrote:
Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Very safe fun, and brilliantly smart.

Duh


I take it you must have led a sheltered life under mommy's apron, huh?
Was everything you done as a child "brilliantly smart"? If so, how did
you ever learn anything? Or....perhaps you never DID learn anything.


[email protected] June 17th 05 08:48 PM



John Jay wrote:
Here is the law about Terrorist threats: Terroristic Threats in the
Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

cite?


P. Fritz June 17th 05 08:49 PM


"John Jay" wrote in message
...
Kevin,

Yes they would have arrested anyone who shot at passing cars with any

gun,
they would have arrested anyone who dropped something off a bridge on
passing cars. The law they charge the person with is "Terroristic

Threats".
They have arrested and charged and people have been found guilty of such
crimes for many years. I can remember in the 60's when kids were

arrested
and charged for Terroristic Threats for dropping pebbles off a bridge

onto
passing cars. I can also remember a time in the 70's when people were
convicted of shooting a BB gun at the LI express.

The fact you do not believe the police would charge kids or anyone else

for
shooting at cars with a BB gun speaks volumes about you. Anyone with a
brain are glad the police do not allow kids to shot BB guns at passing

cars.

Don't you love the lame spin kevin is trying to put in play......now it is
"easier to convict" what a mar00n LMAO



wrote in message
oups.com...


John Jay wrote:
Kevin,
I know you know people could be prosecuted for terrorist acts way

before
their was a Homeland Security Act. What makes you think this crime

and
the
prosecution of this crime has anything to do with the Homeland

Security
Act?


It's simple, try to follow along, okay? The Homeland Security Act
simply made it easier to convict persons. Do you HONESTLY think that
before the act, that they would arrest a couple of kids sitting on a
hill with a damned BB gun shooting at the sides of cars with
TERRORISTIC acts? Come on!!!!!

You must make liberals cringe whenever you open you mouth. You are an
embarrassment to liberals all over the world.


And because of your narrow mindedness, you're an embarrassment to
yourself! But, the Right Wing Circle Jerk Club will love you for it!






John Jay June 17th 05 08:49 PM

Since you are from upstate NY, and your mental problems are the result of
inbreeding (and FAS), you disprove the theory that only Georgia is full of
inbreeds. When you consider how FAS added to your problems you should be
proud of what you have accomplished. You are the best you can be.




wrote in message
oups.com...


John Gaquin wrote:
wrote in message

Whew, you ARE stupid, aren't you?


Am I? You're the one who lives in Georgia and thinks Mark Morford is a
legitimate commentator.

What does living in Georgia have to do with anything? If you'd like to
compare statistics, let's do so. I suppose, like so many other people
that are ignorant of the facts, that you think that GA is full of
inbred idiots, huh? Now, if you'd also like to debate Mark Morford, do
tell, what do you know of his education? What do you know of his
intellect? What do you know of his expertise in political reporting?
What has he said do you disagree with and why? Be specific. Oh, and
yes, you ARE stupid.




John Jay June 17th 05 08:54 PM

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...ode/G/16/11/37


wrote in message
ups.com...


John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.

Nice try.....cite?




John Jay June 17th 05 08:55 PM

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/oco...ode/G/16/11/37


wrote in message
oups.com...


John Jay wrote:
Kevin,

Do you feel silly not understanding Terroristic Threat Laws have been
around
for years before 9/11? Here is the Georgia Law concerning Terroristic
Threats, and the law has been in effect for many many years before the
Homeland Security Act.
Terroristic Threats in the Official Code of Georgia Section 16-11-37:

(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she
threatens to commit any crime of violence, to release any hazardous
substance, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-8-92, or to burn or
damage property with the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the
evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public
transportation or otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in
reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.
No
person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated
testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated.

(b) A person commits the offense of a terroristic act when: (1) He or she
uses a burning or flaming cross or other burning or flaming symbol or
flambeau with the intent to terrorize another or another's household; (2)
While not in the commission of a lawful act, he or she shoots at or
throws
an object at a conveyance which is being operated or which is occupied by
passengers; or (3) He or she releases any hazardous substance or any
simulated hazardous substance under the guise of a hazardous substance
for
the purpose of terrorizing another or of causing the evacuation of a
building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation or
otherwise causing serious public inconvenience or in reckless disregard
of
the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of a terroristic threat shall be
punished by a fine of not more than $ 1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not
less than one nor more than five years, or both. A person convicted of
the
offense of a terroristic act shall be punished by a fine of not more than
$
5,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten
years,
or both; provided, however, that if any person suffers a serious physical
injury as a direct result of an act giving rise to a conviction under
this
Code section, the person so convicted shall be punished by a fine of not
more than $ 250,000.00 or imprisonment for not less than five nor more
than
40 years, or both.

(d) A person who commits or attempts to commit a terroristic threat or
act
with the intent to retaliate against any person for: (1) Attending a
judicial or administrative proceeding as a witness, attorney, judge, or
party or producing any record, document, or other object in a judicial or
official proceeding; or (2) Providing to a law enforcement officer, adult
or
juvenile probation officer, prosecuting attorney, or judge any
information
relating to the commission or possible commission of an offense under the
laws of this state or of the United States or a violation of conditions
of
bail, pretrial release, probation, or parole shall be guilty of the
offense
of a terroristic threat or act and, upon conviction thereof, shall be
punished, for a terroristic threat, by imprisonment for not less than
five
nor more than ten years or by a fine of not less than $ 50,000.00, or
both,
and, for a terroristic act, by imprisonment for not less than five nor
more
than 20 years or by a fine of not less than $ 100,000.00, or both.


Nice try....site?




P. Fritz June 17th 05 08:55 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 05:48:03 -0700, wrote:



Larry wrote:
On 17 Jun 2005 04:53:32 -0700,
wrote:



Tim wrote:
They were sitting on a small
hill by a state hwy. and took a couple of shots at passing cars
with a
Daisy BB gun!


No big deal unless that BB hit you, right?

Hell, we used to have BB gun wars on my uncle's farm!

Have 2 eyes now? If so, you are lucky. Other's were not. Like I

said,
kids
shooting bb guns has ruined a man's life. It is inexcusable to

shoot
at
passing cars.

So, you agree that they should be charged with Terroristic acts????
Hmm, I find it odd that you right wingers are pro gun, except when it
comes to something personal. And sure, it's wrong to shoot at passing
cars, who said it wasn't? But, I'll tell you this, with a little

Daisy,
by the time that bb gets to the car, it's going REAL SLOW. Should we
outlaw sticks, too? They've been known to take people's eyes out.

Hell,
maybe even more eyes have been lost to sticks. The Consumer Product
Safety Commission estimates that in 2003, there were 550,000 to

600,000
injuries associated with bicycles and 97,640 injuries from

skateboards
that required emergency room treatment, compared with 19,504 for air
guns -- including the high-powered air guns.

I know, I shouldn't say anything to you, so I'll be nice.

Even if the bb is going 'very' slow, wouldn't the speed of the car

still
be able
to cause the impact to be severe? Did you ever see what a small rock,
going very
slow, does to the windshield of a car going 60mph?


Oh, ****!!!! I spilled my water bottle laughing at that!!! Hmm, that
would mean that the kids would have to be in FRONT of the vehicle. If
they were behind then the car could be going faster than the bb. Would
that make the driver of the CAR guilty of terroristic threats?

The law in Georgia specifies terroristic acts.


I didn't say "terroristic acts", it's great how you twist things to
make it sound like you know what you're talking about. I said
"terroristic THREATS". Show me that GA law.


No? I guess you don't even know what you initially posted. Here is one
sentence from that post of yours: "Now, a couple of young boys in

northern
GA were arrested for "terroristic acts"."

Idiot.


You forgot "King of the NG"




Are you asking for
agreement/disagreement with the laws of Georgia? Why? So your slam at

DHS
will
make sense?

How about just saying, "OK, I made a mistake."
--
John H

Yes,


Good. Time to move on Kevin.






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