On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Later,

Tom

Around 6/14/2005 11:35 AM, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Or if, as in my case, he has a trailer made out of some extremely light
gauge rust.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:12:38 -0700, Garth Almgren
wrote:

Around 6/14/2005 11:35 AM, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Or if, as in my case, he has a trailer made out of some extremely light
gauge rust.

Good point...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity
210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The
beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

I must have the light gauge steel, As Seen on TV. The guides I have attach
like the ones at this link, although these are not the guides I own:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...276&hasJS=true

Mine have been temporarily removed until I can have a bar of aluminum cut to
fit inside the frame and prevent bending.

I believe you can buy 30 deg elbows.



"Ignoramus32489" wrote in message
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I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Any suggestions?

i

Fiberglass

IBNFSHN wrote:

I believe you can buy 30 deg elbows.

"Ignoramus32489" wrote in message
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I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Any suggestions?

i

Yes, 30 degree galvanized elbows, which will be threaded on each end, and
floor flanges or scutcheons, already drilled to bolt to the frame. Thread
the elbows in and work upwards from there.


"Dry" wrote in message
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Fiberglass

IBNFSHN wrote:

I believe you can buy 30 deg elbows.

"Ignoramus32489" wrote in message
...
I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity
210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Any suggestions?

i

Elbow


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?