On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

I believe you can buy 30 deg elbows.



"Ignoramus32489" wrote in message
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I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Any suggestions?

i

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Later,

Tom

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:12:38 -0700, Garth Almgren
wrote:

Around 6/14/2005 11:35 AM, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Or if, as in my case, he has a trailer made out of some extremely light
gauge rust.

Good point...

Around 6/14/2005 11:35 AM, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

Or if, as in my case, he has a trailer made out of some extremely light
gauge rust.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity
210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Maybe. Some trailers, like mine, have beams which are not 4-sided. The
beams
on mine are open on the inside. U-bolts will bend the frame. Not humorous.

Unless you have extremely light gauge steel, a Ubolt will break or
strip before it bends the steel.

I must have the light gauge steel, As Seen on TV. The guides I have attach
like the ones at this link, although these are not the guides I own:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...276&hasJS=true

Mine have been temporarily removed until I can have a bar of aluminum cut to
fit inside the frame and prevent bending.

Elbow


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 14 Jun 2005 15:40:48 GMT, Ignoramus32489
wrote:

I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Ubolts?

Fiberglass

IBNFSHN wrote:

I believe you can buy 30 deg elbows.

"Ignoramus32489" wrote in message
...
I have a 21 foot, very HEAVY, 21 year old old 20 foot boat Celebrity 210.

I often go boating on a local river and retrieving the boat is a HUGE
PAIN due to strong cross current.

I bought some PVC Fulton guides, which were a total pain and
completely worthless.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).

I can make them from straight sections, that would have to attach to
the 2x4" rectangular galvanized frame, and slope at the rate of 1/3,
that is: for 38 inches of rise, they would have to move away from the
bottom by about 12 inches.

It should be relatively straightforward, except that I am not sure how
to attach the pipe to the frame with a 30 degree angle.

I do not have access to a welding machine.

Any suggestions?

i

Maybe make a "cradle" type structure with the pipe/elbows threaded together
(maybe you have a buddy that's a plumber?) to match your trailer width, and
bolt that (Ubolts) to the trailer.

I would like to make my own boat guides, preferably from regular water
pipe (say 2" pipe).