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( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
"NOYB" wrote in message
... Are you a buffoon? You are trying to provide justification for the attacks against troops from your own country? Separate issues - please answer the first question, and don't combine it in any way with #2. 1) What behavior would you like to see from people who see us as an invader? A massive letter-writing campaign? 2) Keep in mind that our own military brass have said they don't believe that the bulk of the "insurgency" is coming from over the border. And, keep in mind, also, that they have better information to back up this belief than you or I will EVER have, at least until the history books are written. Do you feel YOU have information that they don't? |
( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
On Sun, 09 May 2004 11:32:48 -0400, NOYB wrote:
The insurgents who were piled naked in a pile, or leashed like a dog while lying naked on the floor, did not die. So how can you even compare those acts to what the terrorists did to those civilian contractors in Fallujah? It may be too early to be comparing. There are also allegations of rape and murder. If those allegations are true, dead is dead. |
( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... Are you a buffoon? You are trying to provide justification for the attacks against troops from your own country? Separate issues - please answer the first question, and don't combine it in any way with #2. 1) What behavior would you like to see from people who see us as an invader? A massive letter-writing campaign? It's been widely accepted that there are three groups that we're fighting: 1) former Baathists, 2) Shiites with Iranian backing, and 3) al Qaeda terrorists from the surrounding Middle Eastern countries. None of them are "lawful" combatants as defined by the Geneva Convention...and, thus, none are entitled its protections. 2) Keep in mind that our own military brass have said they don't believe that the bulk of the "insurgency" is coming from over the border. I've seen where *some* of the commanders have said that, but I wouldn't say that that's the general consensus. In fact, most of the top guys say that the majority of the organized terrorist/suicide attacks come from non-Iraqi combatants. And, keep in mind, also, that they have better information to back up this belief than you or I will EVER have, at least until the history books are written. Do you feel YOU have information that they don't? I guess that depends upon who you are talking about. Post just one or two reputable links where one of our top guys says that the majority of the enemy we're facing are Iraqi's...and I'll post half a dozen links in which one of our top guys says that the most severe attacks are coming from non-Iraqi terrorists. |
( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... Are you a buffoon? You are trying to provide justification for the attacks against troops from your own country? I recognize the buffoon here, It isn't Doug. Separate issues - please answer the first question, and don't combine it in any way with #2. 1) What behavior would you like to see from people who see us as an invader? A massive letter-writing campaign? It's been widely accepted that there are three groups that we're fighting: 1) former Baathists, 2) Shiites with Iranian backing, and 3) al Qaeda terrorists from the surrounding Middle Eastern countries. None of them are "lawful" combatants as defined by the Geneva Convention...and, thus, none are entitled its protections. 2) Keep in mind that our own military brass have said they don't believe that the bulk of the "insurgency" is coming from over the border. I've seen where *some* of the commanders have said that, but I wouldn't say that that's the general consensus. Based on your opinion. Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. In fact, most of the top guys say that the majority of the organized terrorist/suicide attacks come from non-Iraqi combatants. Bulls**t What top guys, the ones in the "Fourth Riech"? And, keep in mind, also, that they have better information to back up this belief than you or I will EVER have, at least until the history books are written. Do you feel YOU have information that they don't? I guess that depends upon who you are talking about. Who are you talking about? Some "suck ups" that thinks they can advance their career by being the "organ grinders monkey". Post just one or two reputable links where one of our top guys says that the majority of the enemy we're facing are Iraqi's...and I'll post half a dozen links in which one of our top guys says that the most severe attacks are coming from non-Iraqi terrorists. You ask for "reputable links" and offer links to what? More "organ grinder monkeys" sites with their opinion that supports your drivel. This is all opinions, backed by nothing but lies. Get your head out of the medicine chest. Wipe the spittle off your keyboard. Your posts don't deserve serious consideration anymore!!! Go to hell!!! -- _______m___õ¿~___m_________________________ "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." - oath of office - We need someone who understands this promise. |
( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
"NOYB" wrote in message news:eJidnYHYaoxzewPdRVn- I see from the post above that Mr. Oh-so-clever-anonymous-signature has taken up the "Krause method" of discourse. Yawn. |
( OT ) Geneva convention concerning treatment of prisioners doesn't apply to US
I will say one thing. Someday the whole truth will be known. However based on
the current evidence our treatment of the prisoners is wrong dead wrong. There can be no possible reason IMO to treat them that way. Right is right and wrong is wrong. There are no shades of gray here that I can see. This action is not anything that I as an American can be proud of. What we originally went in there to do I support and still do but those responsible for this need to be brought to justice. I know that Harry will jump in here and state that it is all Bush's fault. He has the right to state his opinion as do I but turnabout is fair play. The Democrats are not without their own skeletons in their closets either. As stated someday the truth will be known. |
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