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John H April 23rd 04 08:40 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
Left Deale at 8:00, headed across Herring Bay to 30' and started dropping the
lures in the water. Oldfart and Gimp were along to provide instructions,
companionship, expertise, and luck. Within 15 minutes of dropping the lines in
the water a rod bent and the line started singing. They let me bring the fish
in, a nice 35"er on a white, small umbrella rig, fished deep. The skunk was off
for the day.

About two hours later, still in Herring bay, the same thing happened. This time
Gimp, who just had two knees replaced, bravely took the rod and pulled in
another 35"er. This fish also hit the white umbrella, running deep.

It took about another two hours for the third hit, and Oldfart tugged in a 34"er
that filled our limit for the day. This one took a white parachute, again down
pretty deep.

As we were cleaning up, putting rods away, wiping blood off the boat, and so on,
the Maryland Police pulled up, checked our fish and all the other stuff, and
wished us well. It was the first time I'd seen any police on the water for about
two years, so it was a welcome sight, especially since we had all the right
stuff. They did point out that my flares expire in three months, so I was
grateful they stopped us now.

Great time, great company, and a great day on the Bay!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause April 24th 04 01:22 AM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:

Left Deale at 8:00, headed across Herring Bay to 30' and started dropping the
lures in the water. Oldfart and Gimp were along to provide instructions,
companionship, expertise, and luck. Within 15 minutes of dropping the lines in
the water a rod bent and the line started singing. They let me bring the fish
in, a nice 35"er on a white, small umbrella rig, fished deep. The skunk was off
for the day.

About two hours later, still in Herring bay, the same thing happened. This time
Gimp, who just had two knees replaced, bravely took the rod and pulled in
another 35"er. This fish also hit the white umbrella, running deep.

It took about another two hours for the third hit, and Oldfart tugged in a 34"er
that filled our limit for the day. This one took a white parachute, again down
pretty deep.



You could do better than that off the fishing pier at Point Lookout.
Leetle Feesh. And dragging those 'chutes again. Try a half-ounce jighead
with an XXX sandworm down at the rips. No heavy metal, and when you
catch a fish, you catch a fish; you're not dragging in what seems like
10 pounds of heavy metal.

Even better...stripers on a fly rod.

John H April 24th 04 03:00 AM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:22:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

Left Deale at 8:00, headed across Herring Bay to 30' and started dropping the
lures in the water. Oldfart and Gimp were along to provide instructions,
companionship, expertise, and luck. Within 15 minutes of dropping the lines in
the water a rod bent and the line started singing. They let me bring the fish
in, a nice 35"er on a white, small umbrella rig, fished deep. The skunk was off
for the day.

About two hours later, still in Herring bay, the same thing happened. This time
Gimp, who just had two knees replaced, bravely took the rod and pulled in
another 35"er. This fish also hit the white umbrella, running deep.

It took about another two hours for the third hit, and Oldfart tugged in a 34"er
that filled our limit for the day. This one took a white parachute, again down
pretty deep.



You could do better than that off the fishing pier at Point Lookout.
Leetle Feesh. And dragging those 'chutes again. Try a half-ounce jighead
with an XXX sandworm down at the rips. No heavy metal, and when you
catch a fish, you catch a fish; you're not dragging in what seems like
10 pounds of heavy metal.

Even better...stripers on a fly rod.


Harry, I'll break my resolution, again. At least when I post about catching a
fish, I'm probably believed. Since you read the *other* group, you've
undoubtedly seen the pictures.

How many people, Harry, would believe you've even caught a fish? I don't believe
you've caught anything at the rips, nor off the pier at Point Lookout.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John Smith April 24th 04 03:43 AM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
I thought we had someone post about seeing Harry and his Lobster Boat
fishing in the Chesapeake Bay? They filled up with fuel at the same dock,
drank beer at the same pub, and shared the same IP address.


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:22:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

Left Deale at 8:00, headed across Herring Bay to 30' and started

dropping the
lures in the water. Oldfart and Gimp were along to provide

instructions,
companionship, expertise, and luck. Within 15 minutes of dropping the

lines in
the water a rod bent and the line started singing. They let me bring

the fish
in, a nice 35"er on a white, small umbrella rig, fished deep. The skunk

was off
for the day.

About two hours later, still in Herring bay, the same thing happened.

This time
Gimp, who just had two knees replaced, bravely took the rod and pulled

in
another 35"er. This fish also hit the white umbrella, running deep.

It took about another two hours for the third hit, and Oldfart tugged

in a 34"er
that filled our limit for the day. This one took a white parachute,

again down
pretty deep.



You could do better than that off the fishing pier at Point Lookout.
Leetle Feesh. And dragging those 'chutes again. Try a half-ounce jighead
with an XXX sandworm down at the rips. No heavy metal, and when you
catch a fish, you catch a fish; you're not dragging in what seems like
10 pounds of heavy metal.

Even better...stripers on a fly rod.


Harry, I'll break my resolution, again. At least when I post about

catching a
fish, I'm probably believed. Since you read the *other* group, you've
undoubtedly seen the pictures.

How many people, Harry, would believe you've even caught a fish? I don't

believe
you've caught anything at the rips, nor off the pier at Point Lookout.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




John H April 24th 04 02:08 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 02:43:09 GMT, "John Smith" wrote:

I thought we had someone post about seeing Harry and his Lobster Boat
fishing in the Chesapeake Bay? They filled up with fuel at the same dock,
drank beer at the same pub, and shared the same IP address.

Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause April 24th 04 02:35 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:22:04 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


John H wrote:


Left Deale at 8:00, headed across Herring Bay to 30' and started dropping the
lures in the water. Oldfart and Gimp were along to provide instructions,
companionship, expertise, and luck. Within 15 minutes of dropping the lines in
the water a rod bent and the line started singing. They let me bring the fish
in, a nice 35"er on a white, small umbrella rig, fished deep. The skunk was off
for the day.

About two hours later, still in Herring bay, the same thing happened. This time
Gimp, who just had two knees replaced, bravely took the rod and pulled in
another 35"er. This fish also hit the white umbrella, running deep.

It took about another two hours for the third hit, and Oldfart tugged in a 34"er
that filled our limit for the day. This one took a white parachute, again down
pretty deep.



You could do better than that off the fishing pier at Point Lookout.
Leetle Feesh. And dragging those 'chutes again. Try a half-ounce jighead
with an XXX sandworm down at the rips. No heavy metal, and when you
catch a fish, you catch a fish; you're not dragging in what seems like
10 pounds of heavy metal.

Even better...stripers on a fly rod.



Harry, I'll break my resolution, again. At least when I post about catching a
fish, I'm probably believed. Since you read the *other* group, you've
undoubtedly seen the pictures.



Have I stated here that you are not catching fish, albeit little fish,
John? I'm sure with all the effort and time you put into it, you do
produce something finny once in a while. Still, I wouldn't call
draggin' umbrella rigs fishing. Not with all that heavy metal in the water.


How many people, Harry, would believe you've even caught a fish?


Several hundred, including the many with whom I've fished.



I don't believe
you've caught anything at the rips, nor off the pier at Point Lookout.



I don't give a damn what you believe. You've already proven yourself to
be a BORGed Bush-****ter. The rips, btw, happen to be about my favorite
well-known fishing location on the Bay, but I more frequently drift-fish
over oyster beds, usually on the other side.

And I never claimed to have fished off the pier at Point Lookout,
although I do fish off of Point Lookout. All I said was that you could
have done better there, on the pier, without dragging all that metal
around. I live a little closer to Point Lookout and the Bay than you do,
eh? If you live out here, you tend to run into pier fishermen from time
to time. Why, I'll bet you didn't know that most Chesapeake Beach pier
fishermen do better catching croakers than you do.

Try putting away those umbrella rigs and try a little jig casting or
sight fishing. With lighter tackle.

Harry Krause April 24th 04 02:46 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 02:43:09 GMT, "John Smith" wrote:


I thought we had someone post about seeing Harry and his Lobster Boat
fishing in the Chesapeake Bay? They filled up with fuel at the same dock,
drank beer at the same pub, and shared the same IP address.


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Aren't you the RepubliBORG who claims to never go out on the weekends
because it is too crowded? And the same RepublBORG who rarely goes more
than a couple of miles from the little Bay outside Deale because you're
too cheap to burn a few gallons of fuel? I told you last season where to
go for flounder. Afraid to cross the Bay and head south?

The best fishing is from the Rips south, on both sides of the Bay. Try
the other shore and expand your horizons and what you might see from
time to time. Oh...the best cruising is also south, as you get closer to
the Atlantic.

You're some mighty fisherman, John. You'd do better at the fish counter
at Safeway or Giant.

John Smith April 24th 04 03:01 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
Harry,

When you go fishing on your imaginary Lobster Boat, do you prefer Safeway or
Giant?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c6dr4e$ao4h2$1@ID-
You're some mighty fisherman, John. You'd do better at the fish counter
at Safeway or Giant.




Harry Krause April 24th 04 03:11 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H


I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!

Harry Krause April 24th 04 03:14 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times
a week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.
John H



I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



Whoops...forgot to attach the article...if you run into John Herring and
you're not wearing thick rubber gloves, avoid shaking his hand,
especially the one with the open lesions and oozing sores.

Some rockfish pose a danger to bay fishermen
By MIKE UNGER, Staff Writer

Despite the dramatic recovery of rockfish in the Chesapeake Bay, more
than half of the bay's most popular fish carry bacteria that can cause
painful skin infections in fishermen, according to the Department of
Natural Resources.

Saturday's start of rockfish season brought little publicity about
mycobacteriosis, first documented by Maryland scientists in 1998.

They now estimate it has spread to 50 percent of rockfish in some areas
of the bay. The Virginia Institute of Marine Science, however, estimates
76 percent of rockfish in the bay are infected.

"I think there is a clear human health concern that hundreds of people
will be out fishing for rockfish at the start of the season, and very
few are aware there is a prevalent disease with these fish," said Howard
R. Ernst, a Naval Academy professor and author of "Chesapeake Bay
Blues," a book published last year that's critical of the state's
regulation of bay pollution.

Although there's no proof that eating striped bass infected with
mycobacteriosis can make people sick, handling an infected fish can lead
to health problems, as Norman Haddaway found out.

He was stuck by a fat fish, 17 inches long, with shiny scales that
shimmered silver, green and blue as it flopped on the bottom of his
charter boat.

The Talbot County fishing guide was in a hurry. He and his four paying
anglers had pulled 120 rockfish from the bay in about an hour and 10
minutes. Most of the fish, like this one, were too small to keep, and
Mr. Haddaway scrambled to throw it overboard.

"When you're catching that many fish that quick, you're not as safe and
careful as you usually are," he said. "I went to grab it, and it just
jumped and stuck me in the palm."

Bacteria from that shiny fin bore into Mr. Haddaway's hand and erupted
on the other side in a swelling the size of a pork chop. The lump soon
spread to his wrist, and his elbow began to stiffen.

Doctors think the fish was carrying mycobacterium marinum, the cause of
what watermen call "fish handler's disease."

"Mycobacterium appears to be on the rise among striped bass in the
Chesapeake Bay," said Phil Jones, a fisheries manager with the DNR.
"It's had an
effect on the survival rates of other species, but to date we have not
seen any indication that it affects striped bass survival."

On the contrary, last year's recreational harvest of 2.97 million pounds
was the highest since a moratorium was implemented in 1985, Mr. Jones said.

In addition, last year's commercial take of 1.935 million pounds met the
DNR's pre-set allotment.

Low profile

Maryland scientists down-play the prevalence of the bacteria in the
official state fish, touted as one of the Chesapeake Bay's few success
stories. The state instituted the rockfish ban in 1985 after a collapse
in the bay's population. By the time the moratorium was lifted in 1990,
the population had recovered.

"There's quite a bit of politics here," said Victor Crecco, supervisor
of research in Connecticut's Marine Fisheries Division. "Politically,
they feel very uncomfortable about this."

Martin Gary, a DNR fisheries ecologist, says fish handler's disease has
an exaggerated reputation because several infections that aren't
mycobacteriosis get lumped together. The state doesn't keep records of
how many people catch it, but surgeons at the Curtis National Hand
Center in Baltimore say they see two or three new cases every month.

"There does seem to be a disproportionate number of people who live on
the Chesapeake Bay who contract it," said James Higgins, a surgeon at
the center. "This does seem to be a hot spot for it."

James Price, president of the nonprofit Chesapeake Bay Ecological
Foundation, said he fears that if the disease isn't addressed, the
rockfish resurgence will be short-lived.

"I feel that it is just as threatened today as it was in (1985)," he
said. "There are signs that these fish are not surviving past six years."

Scientists don't know what's causing the mycobacteriosis outbreak.

Next week, Desmond Kahn, an environmental scientist for Delaware's
fisheries division, will present data to a conference of biologists in
Ocean City showing that the death rate of rockfish from natural causes
in the bay is three times what it was in 1997.

Alternative data show a death rate that's slightly lower, he said.

"All we know about this disease is that up to 70 percent of samples have
shown to be infected and in aquaculture ponds it's fatal," said Bill
Goldsborough, a senior scientist with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation.

"In the early analysis, you have to be concerned that something's going on."

Cautionary tale

Most agree that fishermen should be cautious when handling fish with
lesions, which afflict some stripers infected with disease. The vast
majority suffering from mycobacteriosis, however, exhibit no outward
symptoms.

"What we tell people is to use common sense," Mr. Jones said. "Wash your
hands after handling fish, and if a fish has lesions, throw it back."

Mr. Haddaway, who was injured last fall, had surgery at the Curtis Hand
Center in February to remove infected tissue. He suffered a severe
allergic reaction to antibiotics, and lay in Memorial Hospital at Easton
for five days with a constant drip of morphine and steroids.

Six months after the rockfish stuck him, the lump on the back of his
hand hasn't completely healed.

He vows to wear a glove while fishing; Kevlar gloves (made of the same
material as bulletproof vests) cost $40.

"It's been a kick in the teeth," Mr. Haddaway said last week at his home
in Claiborne, a tiny town just west of St. Michaels.

"It doesn't hurt now, but I know it's not getting any better either."

---



John Smith April 24th 04 03:20 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.


http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?s... hesapeake+bay

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times
a week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.
John H



I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



Whoops...forgot to attach the article...if you run into John Herring and
you're not wearing thick rubber gloves, avoid shaking his hand,
especially the one with the open lesions and oozing sores.

Some rockfish pose a danger to bay fishermen
By MIKE UNGER, Staff Writer

Despite the dramatic recovery of rockfish in the Chesapeake Bay, more
than half of the bay's most popular fish carry bacteria that can cause
painful skin infections in fishermen, according to the Department of
Natural Resources.

Saturday's start of rockfish season brought little publicity about
mycobacteriosis, first documented by Maryland scientists in 1998.

They now estimate it has spread to 50 percent of rockfish in some areas
of the bay. The Virginia Institute of Marine Science, however, estimates
76 percent of rockfish in the bay are infected.

"I think there is a clear human health concern that hundreds of people
will be out fishing for rockfish at the start of the season, and very
few are aware there is a prevalent disease with these fish," said Howard
R. Ernst, a Naval Academy professor and author of "Chesapeake Bay
Blues," a book published last year that's critical of the state's
regulation of bay pollution.

Although there's no proof that eating striped bass infected with
mycobacteriosis can make people sick, handling an infected fish can lead
to health problems, as Norman Haddaway found out.

He was stuck by a fat fish, 17 inches long, with shiny scales that
shimmered silver, green and blue as it flopped on the bottom of his
charter boat.

The Talbot County fishing guide was in a hurry. He and his four paying
anglers had pulled 120 rockfish from the bay in about an hour and 10
minutes. Most of the fish, like this one, were too small to keep, and
Mr. Haddaway scrambled to throw it overboard.

"When you're catching that many fish that quick, you're not as safe and
careful as you usually are," he said. "I went to grab it, and it just
jumped and stuck me in the palm."

Bacteria from that shiny fin bore into Mr. Haddaway's hand and erupted
on the other side in a swelling the size of a pork chop. The lump soon
spread to his wrist, and his elbow began to stiffen.

Doctors think the fish was carrying mycobacterium marinum, the cause of
what watermen call "fish handler's disease."

"Mycobacterium appears to be on the rise among striped bass in the
Chesapeake Bay," said Phil Jones, a fisheries manager with the DNR.
"It's had an
effect on the survival rates of other species, but to date we have not
seen any indication that it affects striped bass survival."

On the contrary, last year's recreational harvest of 2.97 million pounds
was the highest since a moratorium was implemented in 1985, Mr. Jones

said.

In addition, last year's commercial take of 1.935 million pounds met the
DNR's pre-set allotment.

Low profile

Maryland scientists down-play the prevalence of the bacteria in the
official state fish, touted as one of the Chesapeake Bay's few success
stories. The state instituted the rockfish ban in 1985 after a collapse
in the bay's population. By the time the moratorium was lifted in 1990,
the population had recovered.

"There's quite a bit of politics here," said Victor Crecco, supervisor
of research in Connecticut's Marine Fisheries Division. "Politically,
they feel very uncomfortable about this."

Martin Gary, a DNR fisheries ecologist, says fish handler's disease has
an exaggerated reputation because several infections that aren't
mycobacteriosis get lumped together. The state doesn't keep records of
how many people catch it, but surgeons at the Curtis National Hand
Center in Baltimore say they see two or three new cases every month.

"There does seem to be a disproportionate number of people who live on
the Chesapeake Bay who contract it," said James Higgins, a surgeon at
the center. "This does seem to be a hot spot for it."

James Price, president of the nonprofit Chesapeake Bay Ecological
Foundation, said he fears that if the disease isn't addressed, the
rockfish resurgence will be short-lived.

"I feel that it is just as threatened today as it was in (1985)," he
said. "There are signs that these fish are not surviving past six years."

Scientists don't know what's causing the mycobacteriosis outbreak.

Next week, Desmond Kahn, an environmental scientist for Delaware's
fisheries division, will present data to a conference of biologists in
Ocean City showing that the death rate of rockfish from natural causes
in the bay is three times what it was in 1997.

Alternative data show a death rate that's slightly lower, he said.

"All we know about this disease is that up to 70 percent of samples have
shown to be infected and in aquaculture ponds it's fatal," said Bill
Goldsborough, a senior scientist with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation.

"In the early analysis, you have to be concerned that something's going

on."

Cautionary tale

Most agree that fishermen should be cautious when handling fish with
lesions, which afflict some stripers infected with disease. The vast
majority suffering from mycobacteriosis, however, exhibit no outward
symptoms.

"What we tell people is to use common sense," Mr. Jones said. "Wash your
hands after handling fish, and if a fish has lesions, throw it back."

Mr. Haddaway, who was injured last fall, had surgery at the Curtis Hand
Center in February to remove infected tissue. He suffered a severe
allergic reaction to antibiotics, and lay in Memorial Hospital at Easton
for five days with a constant drip of morphine and steroids.

Six months after the rockfish stuck him, the lump on the back of his
hand hasn't completely healed.

He vows to wear a glove while fishing; Kevlar gloves (made of the same
material as bulletproof vests) cost $40.

"It's been a kick in the teeth," Mr. Haddaway said last week at his home
in Claiborne, a tiny town just west of St. Michaels.

"It doesn't hurt now, but I know it's not getting any better either."

---





John H April 24th 04 06:02 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith" wrote:

Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.




I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!




John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches, but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if he's ever
caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause April 24th 04 06:14 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith" wrote:


Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.




I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches, but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if he's ever
caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



ROckfish for me are a catch and release species, unless the fish is
gut-hooked, which rarely happens because I use barbless circle hooks and
jigs without barbs. I don't much like the taste of stripers.

I do keep some flounder when I catch them, and tautogs when I head south.

I'm not negative about your catches, John. I just think they are very
ordinary, and you do seem to have to work really hard to catch a fish.
Further, as I have stated, towing an umbrella rig to catch a fish must
be like wearing 12 condoms when you are having sex: you know something
is going on out there...you just can't feel it.

jim-- April 24th 04 06:14 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith"

wrote:

Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.




I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you

handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches, but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if

he's ever
caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You know the answer to that John. He does not own a boat and he can only
fish off others boats. His wife is not a doctor and he does not own a
custom 36 foot lobster boat.

He does have sock puppets though.



jim-- April 24th 04 07:20 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith"


wrote:

Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you

are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.



I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you


handle

and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!


John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think

you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches,

but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if


he's ever

caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



You know the answer to that John. He does not own a boat




Sadly for you, your dunderheaded buddy John H has not only seen me on
one of our boats, and more than once, we used the same marina.

So, what could be worse than boatless? Boatless in Cleveland? Doesn't
that describe you...

You really should find yourself another newsgroup, Dennis. You've owned
your last boat. Maybe you could team up with Skipper, who is now
boatless in Wichita.

There's a song in there, somewhere.


I'll just attribute your post to ignorance and stupidity and leave it at
that.



Harry Krause April 24th 04 07:48 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

jim-- wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...


On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith"

wrote:


Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you


are

nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.



I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you

handle


and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!


John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think


you're

correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches,


but

implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if

he's ever


caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You know the answer to that John. He does not own a boat




Sadly for you, your dunderheaded buddy John H has not only seen me on
one of our boats, and more than once, we used the same marina.

So, what could be worse than boatless? Boatless in Cleveland? Doesn't
that describe you...

You really should find yourself another newsgroup, Dennis. You've owned
your last boat. Maybe you could team up with Skipper, who is now
boatless in Wichita.

There's a song in there, somewhere.



I'll just attribute your post to ignorance and stupidity and leave it at
that.



That's pretty much your answer for everything in life, I bet. There's
very little you understand.

John H April 24th 04 08:50 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:14:21 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith"

wrote:

Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.




I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you

handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches, but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if

he's ever
caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You know the answer to that John. He does not own a boat and he can only
fish off others boats. His wife is not a doctor and he does not own a
custom 36 foot lobster boat.

He does have sock puppets though.


Sounds like you've got him pegged, Jim. It's actually pretty pitiful. I wonder
if his wife (alleged), the good (alleged) doctor, doctor, couldn't help him deal
with his seemingly ever-increasing demands for attention. I think he is very
much in love with himself.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John Smith April 24th 04 08:56 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John,
I think you have this all wrong, if he felt comfortable with who he was, he
would not have to seek attention by making up stories about his Hatteras,
his Lobster Boat, and his wife a MD and a PHD. If she ever finds out that
he is making up these stories, her feelings will be hurt, that her husband
is so ashamed of her, that he has to make her a Doctor, Doctor just to feel
good about himself.

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:14:21 -0400, "jim--" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:20:25 GMT, "John Smith"

wrote:

Harry, it sounds like you have a bad case of "fishing envy". If you

are
nice to John he might allow you on his boat, if not there are lots of
fishing charters on the Bay.




I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when

I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you

handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!



John, my boat just isn't big enough for Harry and me. And, I think

you're
correct about the "fishing envy." He's very negative about my catches,

but
implies that his, caught at the rips, are OK. Hmmm, makes me wonder if

he's ever
caught a rockfish.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You know the answer to that John. He does not own a boat and he can only
fish off others boats. His wife is not a doctor and he does not own a
custom 36 foot lobster boat.

He does have sock puppets though.


Sounds like you've got him pegged, Jim. It's actually pretty pitiful. I

wonder
if his wife (alleged), the good (alleged) doctor, doctor, couldn't help

him deal
with his seemingly ever-increasing demands for attention. I think he is

very
much in love with himself.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Henry Blackmoore April 25th 04 06:07 AM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
In article , Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a

week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H


I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!


It's a dadgum shame that y'all can't eat fish up in that dirty ol' bay
and that ya have to wear rubbers just to handle em'.... Damn nasty
ol' Demo****s that dominated Congress for over 40 years sure let
things get filthy eh?

yeeeck


John H April 25th 04 12:46 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:07:49 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article , Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a

week,
and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H


I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!


It's a dadgum shame that y'all can't eat fish up in that dirty ol' bay
and that ya have to wear rubbers just to handle em'.... Damn nasty
ol' Demo****s that dominated Congress for over 40 years sure let
things get filthy eh?

yeeeck


Henry, consider the source. Harry spends most of his time, apparently, reading
about fishing, arguing with people who fish, and wishing he could fish (when
he's not staring at his computer wondering what names to call or how to put down
the USA).

I don't wear rubber gloves (although I probably should). I *do* eat the rockfish
I catch that are legal keepers. Harry is the only person I know who doesn't
(apparently) eat them.

Of course, one never *knows* anything about Harry. One simply reads *alleged*
stuff!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause April 25th 04 01:01 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:07:49 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:


In article , Harry Krause wrote:


John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a

week,

and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H

I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!


It's a dadgum shame that y'all can't eat fish up in that dirty ol' bay
and that ya have to wear rubbers just to handle em'.... Damn nasty
ol' Demo****s that dominated Congress for over 40 years sure let
things get filthy eh?

yeeeck



Henry, consider the source. Harry spends most of his time, apparently, reading
about fishing, arguing with people who fish, and wishing he could fish (when
he's not staring at his computer wondering what names to call or how to put down
the USA).



Awwwww. Poor dumb John.


I don't wear rubber gloves (although I probably should). I *do* eat the rockfish
I catch that are legal keepers.


Yeppers, John just catches those dinks with the open sores, plays with
them and eats them, and thinks he should maybe wear rubber gloves so he
doesn't catch fishclap.


Harry is the only person I know who doesn't
(apparently) eat them.


You don't know many people. I don't much like the taste of stripers,
even those without open sores.

Say, John, how many women and children did you kill in Vietnam?

John H April 25th 04 01:25 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:01:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:07:49 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:


In article , Harry Krause wrote:


John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three times a

week,

and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H

I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!

It's a dadgum shame that y'all can't eat fish up in that dirty ol' bay
and that ya have to wear rubbers just to handle em'.... Damn nasty
ol' Demo****s that dominated Congress for over 40 years sure let
things get filthy eh?

yeeeck



Henry, consider the source. Harry spends most of his time, apparently, reading
about fishing, arguing with people who fish, and wishing he could fish (when
he's not staring at his computer wondering what names to call or how to put down
the USA).



Awwwww. Poor dumb John.


I don't wear rubber gloves (although I probably should). I *do* eat the rockfish
I catch that are legal keepers.


Yeppers, John just catches those dinks with the open sores, plays with
them and eats them, and thinks he should maybe wear rubber gloves so he
doesn't catch fishclap.


Harry is the only person I know who doesn't
(apparently) eat them.


You don't know many people. I don't much like the taste of stripers,
even those without open sores.

Say, John, how many women and children did you kill in Vietnam?


None, free fire zones notwithstanding.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John Smith April 25th 04 03:26 PM

Glorious Chesapeake Bay Day!
 
John,
You can tell you have won when Harry has to stoop so low.


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:01:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:07:49 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore)

wrote:


In article , Harry Krause

wrote:


John H wrote:


Wow, what a set of coincidences. I'm probably on the water three

times a

week,

and I've never seen his lobsta boat.

John H

I especially enjoy reading about your striper catches, John, when I
think about the article on rockfish that ran in last Thursday's
Annapolis paper. I'll bet you don't wear rubber gloves when you handle
and clean those fish, and I'll bet you eat those fish, too.

See ya!

It's a dadgum shame that y'all can't eat fish up in that dirty ol' bay
and that ya have to wear rubbers just to handle em'.... Damn nasty
ol' Demo****s that dominated Congress for over 40 years sure let
things get filthy eh?

yeeeck


Henry, consider the source. Harry spends most of his time, apparently,

reading
about fishing, arguing with people who fish, and wishing he could fish

(when
he's not staring at his computer wondering what names to call or how to

put down
the USA).



Awwwww. Poor dumb John.


I don't wear rubber gloves (although I probably should). I *do* eat the

rockfish
I catch that are legal keepers.


Yeppers, John just catches those dinks with the open sores, plays with
them and eats them, and thinks he should maybe wear rubber gloves so he
doesn't catch fishclap.


Harry is the only person I know who doesn't
(apparently) eat them.


You don't know many people. I don't much like the taste of stripers,
even those without open sores.

Say, John, how many women and children did you kill in Vietnam?


None, free fire zones notwithstanding.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!





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