On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:02:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
news On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:56:06 GMT, wrote:

Read this story, you will see just how wrong you are

Separately, Meehan earlier this year showed the Globe a copy of a
medical
report that said Kerry was treated for a shrapnel wound that led to
his
first Purple Heart. Meehan would not allow a copy to be made of the
document.



http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...04/21/kerry_to
_
release_records/


The medical records would show the treatment received, and provide an
indication
of the severity of the wound. For example, if the treatment was a band
aid, then
the severity would be minimal.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Do you feel that anyone who receives the Purple Heart for a tiny injury
should never mention it?

That would be more appropriate than using it to proclaim oneself a 'war
hero.'

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

How about this: Any soldier who was in harm's way is a hero. That includes
millions, and excludes Nookular Boy. Simple.

As piloting an F102 could easily be considered "harms way," Bush would qualify
as a hero. Perhaps you meant to say, "Any soldier who was in a combat zone." But
that would include a lot of deserters and cowards.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:41:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:02:27 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Has anyone been implying that Bush was a big war hero?

Yep. Dressing up like a fighter pilot, displaying huge banners with
warlike slogans, saying things like "bring it on", his stance as 'the
anti-terrorism President, etc etc.

None of the above is a proclamation of war heroism.

Correct. But it sure smells like a guy trying to pretend he's "one of
y'all". Gag me.


Flight suits are mandatory for flights in high performance Air Force aircraft.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:41:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:02:27 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Has anyone been implying that Bush was a big war hero?

Yep. Dressing up like a fighter pilot, displaying huge banners with
warlike slogans, saying things like "bring it on", his stance as 'the
anti-terrorism President, etc etc.

None of the above is a proclamation of war heroism.

Correct. But it sure smells like a guy trying to pretend he's "one of
y'all". Gag me.


Whoops - should have said "Navy.
"
John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:47:48 -0400, John H wrote:


I believe he was also awarded a medal for chasing an individual who had
fired an RPG around a hootch and shooting him. As an unloaded RPG launcher
is about as effective a weapon as a baseball bat, I wouldn't consider this
act very heroic. It seems much more like taking a life needlessly.

Eyewitness accounts say that the RPG was loaded.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:41:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:02:27 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Has anyone been implying that Bush was a big war hero?

Yep. Dressing up like a fighter pilot, displaying huge banners with
warlike slogans, saying things like "bring it on", his stance as 'the
anti-terrorism President, etc etc.

None of the above is a proclamation of war heroism.

Correct. But it sure smells like a guy trying to pretend he's "one of
y'all". Gag me.


Flight suits are mandatory for flights in high performance Air Force
aircraft.

John H

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Sorry, John. Wrong answer. We'll be back after a brief
commercial break, when you can try yet again to play "Justify the Monkey!"

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:02:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
news On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:56:06 GMT, wrote:

Read this story, you will see just how wrong you are

Separately, Meehan earlier this year showed the Globe a copy of a
medical
report that said Kerry was treated for a shrapnel wound that led to
his
first Purple Heart. Meehan would not allow a copy to be made of the
document.




http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...04/21/kerry_to
_
release_records/


The medical records would show the treatment received, and provide an
indication
of the severity of the wound. For example, if the treatment was a
band
aid, then
the severity would be minimal.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Do you feel that anyone who receives the Purple Heart for a tiny injury
should never mention it?

That would be more appropriate than using it to proclaim oneself a 'war
hero.'

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

How about this: Any soldier who was in harm's way is a hero. That includes
millions, and excludes Nookular Boy. Simple.



Tell that to all the reservists. Those in Iraq, Afganistan, or about to go
there.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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How about this: Any soldier who was in harm's way is a hero. That
includes
millions, and excludes Nookular Boy. Simple.



Tell that to all the reservists. Those in Iraq, Afganistan, or about to
go
there.



It was a compliment to the aforementioned soldiers. Did you miss that?

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:00:15 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:47:48 -0400, John H wrote:


I believe he was also awarded a medal for chasing an individual who had
fired an RPG around a hootch and shooting him. As an unloaded RPG launcher
is about as effective a weapon as a baseball bat, I wouldn't consider this
act very heroic. It seems much more like taking a life needlessly.

Eyewitness accounts say that the RPG was loaded.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

From your source: "The details of the event for which he was given the Silver
Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 was fired at the boat and missed.
Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down
with the twin .50, Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and
retrieves the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong."

A launcher that has fired the round is not loaded. An RPG launcher holds only
one round. So Kerry shot an unarmed, wounded soldier. Sounds like courage to me!


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:10:17 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote
None of the above is a proclamation of war heroism.

Well it sure isn't an attempt to appear as a thoughtful, analytical
statesman.


... There seem to be more and more
questions every day.

Only by paid pro-Bush/Cheney shills and fascist cretins such as yourself.


"Fascist cretin." Wow, you're approaching Harry's eloquence. Good job.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em. Facts are facts.

You choose to blindly support an arrogant warlike gov't that attempts to
muzzle civil liberty and stifle dissent. You cheerfully join in a
campaign of lies and slander in order to derail democratic proceedings.
Is that being a fascist?

Yes.

As explained in an earlier post, it is also stupid... just like
repeatedly dropping a brick on your foot. You insist on carryng this
stupidity to the point of being a cretin. In other words, I didn't make
you a fascist cretin, you chose to be one. If you don't like it, change.

The problem is, you're also dropping a brick on *my* foot (and every
American citizen) with this malarkey. Hence my effort to stop the
process. Of course, trying to get an idiot to stop being idiotic is a
lost cause, isn't it?


Bush's service record says nothing about going AWOL.

It doesn't say anything about his being present for duty, either.

You cannot face facts, can you? If Bush had been in your unit, you'd
have called him a cowardly deserter.

DSK

You, of course, have examples of lies I've told on this newsgroup.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On 22 Apr 2004 09:58:24 -0700, (Curtis CCR) wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message ...
Bert Robbins wrote:

wrote in message
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Bush has not released any of his military medical records.

So what is the point of your contention?

The Kerry campaign has allowed reporters to view the first medical report,
but just won't let it be copied.


I believe you are mistaken. The AP has reported that they were denied access
to all of the records on Monday. Then later in the week the relased some
more but not all. They specifically reported that the documentation about
the first Purple Heart was missing.


Hmmm. Records of Bush's Purple Hearts, Silver Stars, Bronze Stars, DSC
and Medal of Honor seem to be missing.

Kerry got a Medal of Honor?!?!

How about you, Bertie? Got any real medals?

Other than wanting one, and putting down those who may have received them
(except Kerry), Harry knows very little about medals.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!