"Carl" wrote in message
om...
Change the law! My dad was killed on that boat. Chapter 46, Code of
Federal Regulation, part 185.508 needs to be changed to take the
decision to make the passengers wear PFD's out of the hands of the
master of a vessel. Make it a requirement to wear PFD's when crossing
any inlet or bar. To bulky, or cumbersome? Got to be macho? Then
you're stupid, and selfish. Wearing a PFD for 10 (ten) minutes while
crossing an inlet or bar will not ruin your trip. Not wearing a PFD
could end up costing you your life, and those that love you a large
chunk of theirs. I ask that you contact your senators and congressmen
and ask them to change this ambiguous law to be more specific. If not
every time when crossing a bar or inlet, then at a minimum when the
Coast Guard has issued a small craft advisory. Great to be
macho...DUMB to be dead.


If you want to wear one, wear one.
No one is stopping you.
I will decide for myself, thanks.

"-v-" wrote in message news:%YDVa.1110

If you want to wear one, wear one.
No one is stopping you.
I will decide for myself, thanks.

Pretty selfish if you ask me.

Most people have relatives and other loved ones who suffer deeply when
somebody dies, especially a sudden and utterly avoidable death.

'Course if it's all about you and you don't give a damn about your family,
YMMV.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"-v-" wrote in message news:%YDVa.1110

If you want to wear one, wear one.
No one is stopping you.
I will decide for myself, thanks.

Pretty selfish if you ask me.

Most people have relatives and other loved ones who suffer deeply when
somebody dies, especially a sudden and utterly avoidable death.

'Course if it's all about you and you don't give a damn about your family,
YMMV.

Nothing selfish about it.
Its called personal responsibility.

Nothing selfish about it.
Its called personal responsibility.

Works for me, as long as the people who
knowingly and deliberately disregard, PFD, helmets, and seat belts remember
that nobody else is "responsible" to go looking for their sorry carcass and
society at large is not "responsible" for keeping them alive after insurance
and personal fortunes are exhausted.

OOPS! What's this? The guy who cracks his head open because he wasn't wearing a
helmet still expects the public ambulance to come and try to save him?
The guy who drowns for lack of a PFD still expects publicly funded SAR to
search for his body, and still expects publicly funded social security to
provide widows and orphans benefits to his widow and minor children?

And Oops! Everybody belonging to the same health insurance plan is indirectly
footing the increased bill?

So, what happened to "personal responsibility"?

I agree to some extent. I believe it should be your right to wear or not to
wear protective devices, helmet, seatbelt, pfd..etc. same as it is to smoke
or not to smoke. I don't think insurance should cover "negligence". In this
day and age personal responsability has fallen to the wayside and lawsuits
and insurance claims took its place. Thats the reason the U.S. is in the
shape its in. We need to wake up and put the responsibility back into the
hands of the people and enforce it. Hit people in the pocket book.

Gould 0738 wrote:

Nothing selfish about it.
Its called personal responsibility.


Works for me, as long as the people who
knowingly and deliberately disregard, PFD, helmets, and seat belts remember
that nobody else is "responsible" to go looking for their sorry carcass and
society at large is not "responsible" for keeping them alive after insurance
and personal fortunes are exhausted.

OOPS! What's this? The guy who cracks his head open because he wasn't wearing a
helmet still expects the public ambulance to come and try to save him?
The guy who drowns for lack of a PFD still expects publicly funded SAR to
search for his body, and still expects publicly funded social security to
provide widows and orphans benefits to his widow and minor children?

And Oops! Everybody belonging to the same health insurance plan is indirectly
footing the increased bill?

So, what happened to "personal responsibility"?

Gone with the wind I am afraid. Maybe all the roads should be made of
rubber :-)

It's sad when someone loses someone close. But we all make choices, and
should be able to make them as we see fit..

Capt Jack R..

"-v-" wrote in message
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"gatt" wrote in message
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"-v-" wrote in message news:%YDVa.1110

If you want to wear one, wear one.
No one is stopping you.
I will decide for myself, thanks.

Pretty selfish if you ask me.

Most people have relatives and other loved ones who suffer deeply when
somebody dies, especially a sudden and utterly avoidable death.

'Course if it's all about you and you don't give a damn about your
family,
YMMV.

Nothing selfish about it.
Its called personal responsibility.


Frankly, I agree. My 14 yr old son dons a vest more often than I tell him
to, based on his intuition about the water on any given day. The more
boating accident news stories I show him, the more he uses the vest. It's up
to each person to be safe. But, having said that, it should be obvious that
if the captain gives an order, it should be followed.