"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:26:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

It's interesting you should bring this up. Using your mindset, parents
should make sure that their kids do not roam on to your lawn. It's
THEIR responsibility to protect the safety of their immature children.
I would tend to agree that it's a parent's responsibility to tend to
the well being of their kids.

For the most part, kids don't **** on your lawn.

You do seem unusually fixated on fecal matter. IS that the only thing
that matters to you?

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.



However, it is a dog's sole
purpose while roaming to find places to **** and mark territory.

You don't know much about dogs Doug.

Right. They're out collecting soda cans so they can get the nickles.



When a dog
roams the neighborhood, it's pretty much guaranteed that it's going to
leave
**** someplace.

Really? I used to be able to take my dog for long walks with me (on a
leash), and it never dropped anything until we returned home.

If it did stop to crap on someone's property, would you clean it up?


For the record again Doug, I do not disagree with you that dog owners
should be more responsible with their dogs roaming habits. I just
don't agree that you have the right to kill the dog who gets away more
often than not.

But you said that YOU sometimes let your dog out without chaining it in
your
yard,

When I let the dog out without using the rope, I kept an eye on her to
make sure she didn't roam, and she usually didn't. A 13 year old dog
is not too interested in exploring new ground.

It's a safe bet that you'd let any dog you owned run out the door
unsupervised.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:00:48 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:26:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

It's interesting you should bring this up. Using your mindset, parents
should make sure that their kids do not roam on to your lawn. It's
THEIR responsibility to protect the safety of their immature children.
I would tend to agree that it's a parent's responsibility to tend to
the well being of their kids.

For the most part, kids don't **** on your lawn.

You do seem unusually fixated on fecal matter. IS that the only thing
that matters to you?

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?


However, it is a dog's sole
purpose while roaming to find places to **** and mark territory.

You don't know much about dogs Doug.

Right. They're out collecting soda cans so they can get the nickles.

Maybe they are. Some even have girlfriends.


When a dog
roams the neighborhood, it's pretty much guaranteed that it's going to
leave
**** someplace.

Really? I used to be able to take my dog for long walks with me (on a
leash), and it never dropped anything until we returned home.

If it did stop to crap on someone's property, would you clean it up?

With what? And where would I put it? I usually walked in the street so
that if a (rare) accidental dropping would occur, it would be in the
street and not in someone's yard.

For the record again Doug, I do not disagree with you that dog owners
should be more responsible with their dogs roaming habits. I just
don't agree that you have the right to kill the dog who gets away more
often than not.

But you said that YOU sometimes let your dog out without chaining it in
your
yard,

When I let the dog out without using the rope, I kept an eye on her to
make sure she didn't roam, and she usually didn't. A 13 year old dog
is not too interested in exploring new ground.

It's a safe bet that you'd let any dog you owned run out the door
unsupervised.

Why would you say that? I have no desire to allow my dog to roam
unsupervised. The only reason I had been letting her out without
restraint, was that she had been advancing in age, and no longer prone
to roam far. For the previous 13 years, she was ALWAYS restrained.
That's why MY yard was a minefield of droppings, not my neighbor's.

Quite frankly, I'm happy to be rid of the mess.


Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:00:48 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:26:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

It's interesting you should bring this up. Using your mindset,
parents
should make sure that their kids do not roam on to your lawn. It's
THEIR responsibility to protect the safety of their immature
children.
I would tend to agree that it's a parent's responsibility to tend to
the well being of their kids.

For the most part, kids don't **** on your lawn.

You do seem unusually fixated on fecal matter. IS that the only thing
that matters to you?

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?

Ha. Talk about stepping in it.....you just did. I now live in an apartment.
The neighborhood's full of stray dogs. The hose outlet is covered by a
locked box so the entire complex doesn't have a car washing party. Where
would you suggest I clean my shoes? Kitchen sink? Bathtub? See? Now the
crime has been compounded. Unfortunately, this isn't MY private property, or
I'd settle the issue.


Really? I used to be able to take my dog for long walks with me (on a
leash), and it never dropped anything until we returned home.

If it did stop to crap on someone's property, would you clean it up?

With what? And where would I put it? I usually walked in the street so
that if a (rare) accidental dropping would occur, it would be in the
street and not in someone's yard.

With a tool and a bag, you idiot. The street is shared property. Nobody
wants it on the sidewalks. Kids play on the sidewalks. Kids (all kids,
everywhere, throughout recorded history) put their hands near or in their
mouths. Regardless of what the law says, it's your responsibility to clean
it up within seconds of it happening. Period.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:46:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?

Ha. Talk about stepping in it.....you just did. I now live in an apartment.
The neighborhood's full of stray dogs. The hose outlet is covered by a
locked box so the entire complex doesn't have a car washing party. Where
would you suggest I clean my shoes? Kitchen sink?

Works for me.


crime has been compounded. Unfortunately, this isn't MY private property, or
I'd settle the issue.

Since it isn't your property, you have no right to complain.

Really? I used to be able to take my dog for long walks with me (on a
leash), and it never dropped anything until we returned home.

If it did stop to crap on someone's property, would you clean it up?

With what? And where would I put it? I usually walked in the street so
that if a (rare) accidental dropping would occur, it would be in the
street and not in someone's yard.

With a tool and a bag, you idiot. The street is shared property. Nobody
wants it on the sidewalks

Which is why it's in the street and not on the sidewalks.


Kids play on the sidewalks. Kids (all kids,
everywhere, throughout recorded history) put their hands near or in their
mouths. Regardless of what the law says, it's your responsibility to clean
it up within seconds of it happening. Period.

Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian
Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits,
Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do
kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for
that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy.


Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:46:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots
to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?

Ha. Talk about stepping in it.....you just did. I now live in an
apartment.
The neighborhood's full of stray dogs. The hose outlet is covered by a
locked box so the entire complex doesn't have a car washing party. Where
would you suggest I clean my shoes? Kitchen sink?

Works for me.

Does your family use the sinks as toilets, too?


crime has been compounded. Unfortunately, this isn't MY private property,
or
I'd settle the issue.

Since it isn't your property, you have no right to complain.

The residents have the right to complain because the dogs are ruining
common-use areas. This is the same logic used when municipalities ban dogs
from certain parks.



With what? And where would I put it? I usually walked in the street so
that if a (rare) accidental dropping would occur, it would be in the
street and not in someone's yard.

With a tool and a bag, you idiot. The street is shared property. Nobody
wants it on the sidewalks

Which is why it's in the street and not on the sidewalks.

That's much different. This way, if someone who doesn't live nearby is
getting back into their car and steps in it, they are forced to foul their
car rugs.


Kids play on the sidewalks. Kids (all kids,
everywhere, throughout recorded history) put their hands near or in their
mouths. Regardless of what the law says, it's your responsibility to
clean
it up within seconds of it happening. Period.

Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian
Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits,
Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do
kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for
that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy.

Stupid question. NOBODY can control thousands of wild animals. But dog
owners can control their dogs and clean up after them.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:46:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the
boots
to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?

Ha. Talk about stepping in it.....you just did. I now live in an
apartment.
The neighborhood's full of stray dogs. The hose outlet is covered by a
locked box so the entire complex doesn't have a car washing party.
Where
would you suggest I clean my shoes? Kitchen sink?

Works for me.

Does your family use the sinks as toilets, too?

He rents a trailer. What do you think?

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:04:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:



Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian
Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits,
Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do
kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for
that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy.

Stupid question. NOBODY can control thousands of wild animals. But dog
owners can control their dogs and clean up after them.

Not a stupid question, but a stupid rule. What difference would it
make in the grand scheme of things if the only turds removed, in a
collection of many, were the dog's? Would the rest of them magically
disappears? Does the fact that some of us like to pretend that they
aren't really there, change the fact that they really are?

Have you ever seen the mess that can be left after a flock of Geese
roam an area for a while? Maybe you should feel lucky that an
occasional dog dropping is your only concern.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:04:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:



Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian
Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits,
Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do
kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for
that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy.

Stupid question. NOBODY can control thousands of wild animals. But dog
owners can control their dogs and clean up after them.

Not a stupid question, but a stupid rule. What difference would it
make in the grand scheme of things if the only turds removed, in a
collection of many, were the dog's? Would the rest of them magically
disappears? Does the fact that some of us like to pretend that they
aren't really there, change the fact that they really are?

Have you ever seen the mess that can be left after a flock of Geese
roam an area for a while? Maybe you should feel lucky that an
occasional dog dropping is your only concern.

Dave


I never had multitudes of wild animals crapping on my property. Just
squirrels, whose turds seem to be invisible, one cat, who buried them
someplace where they never caused a problem, and quite a few dogs. If I
lived in the Adirondacks and deer were a problem, I would've accepted the
fact of life that you have to coexist with deer and whatever else comes
along.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:46:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

If you get it in the treads of your boots, where do you take the boots
to
clean them off? Let's assume it's a HUGE amount of ****.

Garden hose?

Ha. Talk about stepping in it.....you just did. I now live in an
apartment.
The neighborhood's full of stray dogs. The hose outlet is covered by a
locked box so the entire complex doesn't have a car washing party. Where
would you suggest I clean my shoes? Kitchen sink?

Works for me.


crime has been compounded. Unfortunately, this isn't MY private property,
or
I'd settle the issue.

Since it isn't your property, you have no right to complain.

sigh
This boy is clinically stupid.
Rentors have 8 of the 10 rights of ownership.
*Exclusion* is one of them. Moron.