"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:36:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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YOU have no say at all in how I conduct my life and that galls you
something
fierce.

Sorry to have to tell you this, but despite your feelings to the
contrary, in any civilized society there are laws which you are
obligated to follow, irrespective of your anarchistic and nihilistic
nature. The reality of this would seem to "gall" you.

Aren't you the same guy who has said, at least 12 million times

12 million and 1, but who's counting?

in the past,
that there are too many laws, and that personal responsibility, if taught
correctly, would obviate the need for more laws?

In theory that would be true. But you and I both know that there are
too many people in the world who do not rise to the occasion when it
comes to personal responsibility. That being said, I am of the mindset
where laws should be basic and based on moral grounds. Things like
killing, theft,and rape should be clearly defined. I have my biggest
problem with "social lifestyle" and "nuisance" laws, which attempt to
define acceptable behavior according to (supposedly) a majority of the
members of society, despite the overtly subjective value judgement of
the activity in question


Why is it, then, that a
place like NYC finally instituted a scooper law, and began busting people
who let their dogs crap right on the sidewalk and then left it there?
We're
talking about dogs on a leash, with their owners watching.

I dispute the value of those laws. They make no sense in places like
where I live. It's supposed to be some big health threat to leave dog
poop on the curb or adjacent lawn, but any number of native wildlife
species have carte blanche access to do the same. Another example of
not seeing the forest for the trees. On the other hand, in a concrete
jungle, it probably makes better sense.


You seem to enjoy using the law to support your arguments as long as the
laws in question have no effect on you.

No, that's not it at all. I respect most laws as they are. I am not
the anarchist here. I am rarely on the wrong side of the law on these
issues. On those laws with which I am odds with, I have no problem
with lobbying for change.

Dave


It's safe to assume, then, that you throw empty beverage containers out of
your boat.