"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:42:42 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:14:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

How about this: I'm creating a new art form. It's sort of like
etchings.
I
use a key on the side of your car. It won't be just a scratch, mind
you.
It'll be an actual picture. This is identical to your allowing your
dog
to
crap on my lawn. Is my new art form OK with you?



Another strawman?

You also seem to be unable to grasp the difference between deliberate
and malicious intent, and incidental, consequential actions.

The dog craps because that's a natural act. In some places, it's
illegal to allow a dog to roam loose. In other places it's perfectly
acceptable (and legal). I suggest you move to one of those uptight
areas where people share your outrage at such trivial incidents.

Dave

Coprophilia: marked interest in excrement, especially the use of feces or
filth for sexual excitement.

Interesting? But I fail to see the relevance. Are you fixated with
doggie doo?


This hobby is fine for some, but dog owners should ask before sharing
their
fixation with others.

I would challenge that you seem to be the one projecting the fixation
with dog poop. You are the one making the big deal about it. Most
other people just let nature take its course.

Dave

Let nature take its course? That's what I've been saying all along. But,
here's the difference: I acknowledge that nature sometimes works in ways
that are sad. I don't think it's funny when I see a lion kill a gazelle on
TV, but as you say, "**** happens". Usually, the gazelle which ends up as lu
nch made some sort of mistake, not unlike some dogs.

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:02:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I would challenge that you seem to be the one projecting the fixation
with dog poop. You are the one making the big deal about it. Most
other people just let nature take its course.

Dave

Let nature take its course? That's what I've been saying all along. But,
here's the difference: I acknowledge that nature sometimes works in ways
that are sad.

Nature does not include guns. Nor do animals kill for sport or
revenge. But a few weeks of rain will dissolve dog droppings.

I don't think it's funny when I see a lion kill a gazelle on
TV, but as you say, "**** happens".

Yes, and if you truly needed to hunt the neighbor's dog to provide
food for your family, it would be a different issue.


Usually, the gazelle which ends up as lunch
made some sort of mistake, not unlike some dogs.

Natural selection does not include revenge for an infraction.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:02:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I would challenge that you seem to be the one projecting the fixation
with dog poop. You are the one making the big deal about it. Most
other people just let nature take its course.

Dave

Let nature take its course? That's what I've been saying all along. But,
here's the difference: I acknowledge that nature sometimes works in ways
that are sad.

Nature does not include guns. Nor do animals kill for sport or
revenge. But a few weeks of rain will dissolve dog droppings.

I wouldn't kill a dog for sport or revenge. If it happened, it would be one
of the many things necessary to contribute to the ongoing gardening project.
It's no different than sharpening the spade or going out to buy peat moss.
Just another thing on the list.


I don't think it's funny when I see a lion kill a gazelle on
TV, but as you say, "**** happens".

Yes, and if you truly needed to hunt the neighbor's dog to provide
food for your family, it would be a different issue.

I *do* need to hunt the neighbor's dog, in order to keep it from obstructing
the creation of food in my garden.

But, here's the real deal, Dave. I plant flowers, too. Tons of them. When
I'm outside, I don't want to have to look down at my feet. I want to look
up. And, some of the flowers bloom or smell best at night. I don't want to
carry a flashlight. If you and your dog make it necessary for me to be more
vigilant than I choose to be on my own property, you have stolen from me in
more ways than one.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:13:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I wouldn't kill a dog for sport or revenge. If it happened, it would be one
of the many things necessary to contribute to the ongoing gardening project.
It's no different than sharpening the spade or going out to buy peat moss.
Just another thing on the list.

Whatever you want to rationalize it as, it's still in response to an
act. That's revenge by any classic definition.


I don't think it's funny when I see a lion kill a gazelle on
TV, but as you say, "**** happens".

Yes, and if you truly needed to hunt the neighbor's dog to provide
food for your family, it would be a different issue.

I *do* need to hunt the neighbor's dog, in order to keep it from obstructing
the creation of food in my garden.

But, here's the real deal, Dave. I plant flowers, too. Tons of them. When
I'm outside, I don't want to have to look down at my feet. I want to look
up. And, some of the flowers bloom or smell best at night. I don't want to
carry a flashlight. If you and your dog make it necessary for me to be more
vigilant than I choose to be on my own property, you have stolen from me in
more ways than one.


You have an overinflated sense of what the rest of society owes you
WRT consideration.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:13:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I wouldn't kill a dog for sport or revenge. If it happened, it would be
one
of the many things necessary to contribute to the ongoing gardening
project.
It's no different than sharpening the spade or going out to buy peat
moss.
Just another thing on the list.

Whatever you want to rationalize it as, it's still in response to an
act. That's revenge by any classic definition.


I don't think it's funny when I see a lion kill a gazelle on
TV, but as you say, "**** happens".

Yes, and if you truly needed to hunt the neighbor's dog to provide
food for your family, it would be a different issue.

I *do* need to hunt the neighbor's dog, in order to keep it from
obstructing
the creation of food in my garden.

But, here's the real deal, Dave. I plant flowers, too. Tons of them. When
I'm outside, I don't want to have to look down at my feet. I want to look
up. And, some of the flowers bloom or smell best at night. I don't want
to
carry a flashlight. If you and your dog make it necessary for me to be
more
vigilant than I choose to be on my own property, you have stolen from me
in
more ways than one.


You have an overinflated sense of what the rest of society owes you
WRT consideration.

Dave

Really? If you had my flower garden, you were out at night enjoying the
sights and smells, and I thought it was cute to shine one of the zillion
candlepower searchlights in your face, how many days would it take before
you had an ulcer? After all, you wouldn't actually DO anything about it,
right?

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:53:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You have an overinflated sense of what the rest of society owes you
WRT consideration.

Dave

Really? If you had my flower garden, you were out at night enjoying the
sights and smells, and I thought it was cute to shine one of the zillion
candlepower searchlights in your face, how many days would it take before
you had an ulcer? After all, you wouldn't actually DO anything about it,
right?

Why would someone do that? You speak as if you have first hand
experience. One has to wonder why you have so many issues with
neighbors.


You come up with so many "annoyances" with relation to neighbors, I
have to wonder just what you were like to live next too. I'd love to
talk to your former neighbors. I'm sure they have some interesting
stories to tell.......

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:53:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You have an overinflated sense of what the rest of society owes you
WRT consideration.

Dave

Really? If you had my flower garden, you were out at night enjoying the
sights and smells, and I thought it was cute to shine one of the zillion
candlepower searchlights in your face, how many days would it take before
you had an ulcer? After all, you wouldn't actually DO anything about it,
right?

Why would someone do that? You speak as if you have first hand
experience. One has to wonder why you have so many issues with
neighbors.


You come up with so many "annoyances" with relation to neighbors, I
have to wonder just what you were like to live next too. I'd love to
talk to your former neighbors. I'm sure they have some interesting
stories to tell.......

Dave


Actually, Dave, you've avoided the question. I've simply offered an example
of something you would find annoying and perhaps painful. Using this
searchlight example, what would be analogous to a fence?

"Dave Hall" wrote
Nature does not include guns. Nor do animals kill for sport or
revenge. But a few weeks of rain will dissolve dog droppings.

Then you would have no problem with someone else's dogs ****ting in your
yard on a regular basis?

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:53:44 -0400, "Don"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote
Nature does not include guns. Nor do animals kill for sport or
revenge. But a few weeks of rain will dissolve dog droppings.

Then you would have no problem with someone else's dogs ****ting in your
yard on a regular basis?

Personally, I don't care. I've had my own dog droppings to deal with,
so what's few more? It's natural fertilizer.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:53:44 -0400, "Don"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote
Nature does not include guns. Nor do animals kill for sport or
revenge. But a few weeks of rain will dissolve dog droppings.

Then you would have no problem with someone else's dogs ****ting in your
yard on a regular basis?

Personally, I don't care.

Thank you for admitting that.
Many of us won't stoop to that trailer park level.
When you get to the point of being a *homeowner* rather than a renter,
you'll learn to appreciate property rights.
Until then, shut the **** up.