As a member of the USCGAUX, I thought I was a civilian volunteer. Turns out I
am told that I am a USCG employee. I thought employees were paid personnel!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

"Capt Lou" wrote in message

As a member of the USCGAUX, I thought I was a civilian volunteer. Turns
out I
am told that I am a USCG employee.

In what context?

As an auxiliarist doing patrols, teaching safe boating classes, vessel exams,
etc!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Capt Lou wrote:

As an auxiliarist doing patrols, teaching safe boating classes, vessel exams,
etc!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.


uh-oh!

Harry Krause wrote in message
...
Capt Lou wrote:

As an auxiliarist doing patrols, teaching safe boating classes, vessel
exams,
etc!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou
every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial
to
95.9FM.


uh-oh!

I hope Capt Lou likes hot dry climates. Sounds like George W may be getting
desperate.

Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message
...

Capt Lou wrote:


As an auxiliarist doing patrols, teaching safe boating classes, vessel

exams,

etc!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou

every

Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial

to

95.9FM.


uh-oh!


I hope Capt Lou likes hot dry climates. Sounds like George W may be getting
desperate.



At some point, an overwhelming majority of Americans are going to say to
Bush, "are you out of your frippin' mind?"

I'm amazed there haven't been more jokes about Bush's upcoming
"testimony" before the 9-11 committee. He has to have Cheney there to
hold his hand and whisper answers into his ear?

"Uh...I dunno...Dick...when did we talk about that?"

Cripes. We have an idiot for a president.

In article , "Don White" wrote:



Sounds like George W may be getting
desperate.

Why the hell do you care ya socialist canuuck?
No pressing issues for you to worry about up there in Canadaland?

"Capt Lou" wrote in message

As an auxiliarist doing patrols, teaching safe boating classes, vessel
exams,
etc!

No, Lou, I mean in what context, on what documents, have you been defined as
an employee? I've seen nothing official in that regard.

At my flotilla meeting, I was told by the former National Legal Officer that CG
auxiliarists are no longer civilian volunteers.
I was kind of taken aback by this so I asked "what are we then?" His answer to
me was "employees." I was kind of shocked!

I then went home to review the Auxiliary's web site, and although it still
claims in its history section that the Auxiliary is made up of volunteer
civilians, the new Homeland Security background form that must be completed
clearly asks for your CGAuxiliary employee number:

This is what the form reads:
"You will be asked for several peices of information in order to activate your
account:

Your seven (7) digit Auxiliary Employee ID.

This is not your old member number (which are now obsolete), and does not
contain any unit number. Your Employee ID can be found on your new member card.
Your Employee ID will act as your login username for the eDirectory, so it is a
good idea to have it memorized."

"If you are unsure what your Employee ID or Zip Code is in AUXDATA, consult
your FSO-IS. We can not give out this information for security purposes."

Furthermore I found the following langauge in the latest CGAuxiliary Manual:

"A member of the Auxiliary while assigned to duty shall be deemed to be a
Federal employee for the purposes of the following:

(1) Chapter 26 of title 28 (popularly known as the Federal Tort Claims Act).
(2) Section 2733 of title 10 (popularly known as the Military Claims Act).
(3) The Act of March 3, 1925 (46 App. U.S.C. 781-790; popularly known as the
Public Vessels Act).
(4) The Act of March 9, 1920 (46 App.U.S.C. 741-752; popularly known as the
Suits in Admiralty Act).
(5) The Act of June 19, 1948 (46 App. U.S.C. 740; popularly known as the
Admiralty Extension Act).
(6) Other matters related to noncontractual civil liability.
(7) Compensation for work injuries under chapter 81 of title 5.
(8) The resolution of claims relating to damage to or loss of personal property
of the member incident to service under the
Military Personnel and Civilian Employees' Claims Act of 1964 (31U.S.C. 3721).
(c) A member of the Auxiliary, while assigned to duty, shall be deemed to be a
person acting under an officer of the United States or an agency thereof for
purposes of section 1442(a)(1) of title 28.

Now what do you think?

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Capt Lou wrote:
At my flotilla meeting, I was told by the former National Legal Officer that CG
auxiliarists are no longer civilian volunteers.
I was kind of taken aback by this so I asked "what are we then?" His answer to
me was "employees." I was kind of shocked!

I then went home to review the Auxiliary's web site, and although it still


Then you should quit in protest.