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Mark Browne April 11th 04 06:46 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:07:12 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote in message
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Ever been to Naples, Florida, Don?


been to Orlando, Tampa , St. Pete's Beach..etc. Close enough?

No, no, and no. Naples is unique.


Unique?? Like, the only one in the world?
http://document.itwg.com/en_napoli.asp

Lloyd



Anyone who has been to Naples, Italy, would only laugh at the
pretentiousness of inhabitants of Naples, Florida.


I have a buddy who plays pro basketball in Naples, Italy...and doesn't

think
very highly of it. He has played/lived in several Italian and other
European cities, and Naples is near the bottom of the list of his favorite
places over there. He does choose to come to Naples, Florida for his
vacations however.


If you can get past the traffic, Naples Italy is very nice. I went there
with the wife last year. We saw as much as we could in a week and had a long
list of things we wanted to see. The gelato is absolutely wonderful! We
will go again; next time we will probably stay more that a week. The agenda
includes a climb to the peak of Vesuvius. The view is wonderful.

If you are going to the area spend a day or two in Pompeii - it's worth the
trip.

As far as Florida - I did enjoy my time working at the space center. I
stayed in the ho-jos in Titusville. There are some wonderful local eateries.
I remember eating at one place and looking at salvage from the USA version
of the Concorde poking over a fence across the street. Wow! There are some
good air and space museums in the area. I did not get to all of them;
perhaps next time?

When I was looking for places to visit I don't remember seeing of much
around Naples to recommend it. More than likely it is just because I don't
know the area. I like good food (not fancy, just good) and historic sites -
what do you recommend Dr. Tooth?

Mark Browne



NOYB April 11th 04 09:30 PM

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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
news:l%eec.12366$_K3.49314@attbi_s53...

"NOYB" wrote in message
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The majority of the people in Naples are retirees who already earned

their
money and are bringing it down here in their retirement. The retirees

now
are the baby boomers...a huge population with enormous wealth and very
little debt. An entire service population has grown as a result, and

the
service industry feeds on the retirees. As long as the population

continues
to grow faster than attrition (ie--from people dying), the demand for
housing will grow. Over the past year, Collier County's population grew

by
almost 15%. Consequently, the demand for housing (expensive housing)

drove
the median price up more than 40%.

Is it sustainable? Probably not at the same rate of increase. However,
you'll never see a true "bust" where prices begin to fall. They'll just
level off until the next boom.


What Dr. Tooth says mirrors what I know of Florida.

So Backyard and Dr. Tooth, which is it?


http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl...ing.google.com

or what Dr. Tooth said above?


I can't speak for the rest of Florida, but I know that I see about 40-50 new
patients every month...and the average age of those patients is probably
around 60.


If this *is* just small pockets of old farts then housing prices will

tumble
when:
1) These old folks die and the houses come up for sale.


And the houses get razed to make room for new mansions...particularly if
they're on the water or on large (1 acre or more) pieces of property.


2) The interest rates start to rise to more normal levels.

They may be old and rich, but they are not stupid.


I have heard that nearly 60% of home sales are cash deals in Naples...with
no financing involved. Interest rates will not affect the housing market a
whole lot. In fact, a rise in interest rates will give retirees a better
return on their conservative investments...and give them more money to spend
on housing.



NOYB April 11th 04 09:42 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 

"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:07:12 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote in message
r.com...

snip
Ever been to Naples, Florida, Don?


been to Orlando, Tampa , St. Pete's Beach..etc. Close enough?

No, no, and no. Naples is unique.


Unique?? Like, the only one in the world?
http://document.itwg.com/en_napoli.asp

Lloyd



Anyone who has been to Naples, Italy, would only laugh at the
pretentiousness of inhabitants of Naples, Florida.


I have a buddy who plays pro basketball in Naples, Italy...and doesn't

think
very highly of it. He has played/lived in several Italian and other
European cities, and Naples is near the bottom of the list of his

favorite
places over there. He does choose to come to Naples, Florida for his
vacations however.


If you can get past the traffic, Naples Italy is very nice. I went there
with the wife last year. We saw as much as we could in a week and had a

long
list of things we wanted to see. The gelato is absolutely wonderful! We
will go again; next time we will probably stay more that a week. The

agenda
includes a climb to the peak of Vesuvius. The view is wonderful.

If you are going to the area spend a day or two in Pompeii - it's worth

the
trip.

As far as Florida - I did enjoy my time working at the space center. I
stayed in the ho-jos in Titusville. There are some wonderful local

eateries.
I remember eating at one place and looking at salvage from the USA version
of the Concorde poking over a fence across the street. Wow! There are some
good air and space museums in the area. I did not get to all of them;
perhaps next time?

When I was looking for places to visit I don't remember seeing of much
around Naples to recommend it. More than likely it is just because I don't
know the area. I like good food (not fancy, just good) and historic

sites -
what do you recommend Dr. Tooth?


What kind of food? You almost can't go wrong with any of the places along
5th Avenue or 3rd Street South...but they're expensive. If you want a
specific type of food, I can make a more specific recommendation.


As for historic sites...
Naples has virtually none. It *was* a mosquito-laden town overgrown with
mangroves that relied on deliveries brought in via the 1/4 mile long Naples
pier in the Gulf. You will not find the historic sites found in places like
Williamsburg, Philadelphia, Savannah, etc. However, within a half hours
drive or boat ride you can visit the Edison and Ford mansions/museums in Ft.
Myers, the Koreshan State Historic site in Estero, the Calusa Indian island
made of shells (Mound Key in Estero), numerous Conservancy's and nature
centers, or travel the Tamiami Trail to Miami and stop at the old trading
post down in Chokoloskee.



NOYB April 11th 04 09:45 PM

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We've gotten off-topic from the topic in an off-topic thread. The info I
posted about Naples was made to refute basskisser's claim that it's a town
of swamp-billies. I don't need to sell the place to anybody. People are
finding it all on their own (much to the detriment of the unspoiled,
quaint-town feel...and the awful traffic in season).


So bassie...
Which shopping plaza did you help build? LOL!



Mark Browne April 12th 04 04:17 AM

OT Oh no! What next?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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When I was looking for places to visit I don't remember seeing of much
around Naples to recommend it. More than likely it is just because I

don't
know the area. I like good food (not fancy, just good) and historic

sites -
what do you recommend Dr. Tooth?


What kind of food? You almost can't go wrong with any of the places along
5th Avenue or 3rd Street South...but they're expensive. If you want a
specific type of food, I can make a more specific recommendation.


As for historic sites...
Naples has virtually none. It *was* a mosquito-laden town overgrown with
mangroves that relied on deliveries brought in via the 1/4 mile long

Naples
pier in the Gulf. You will not find the historic sites found in places

like
Williamsburg, Philadelphia, Savannah, etc. However, within a half hours
drive or boat ride you can visit the Edison and Ford mansions/museums in

Ft.
Myers, the Koreshan State Historic site in Estero, the Calusa Indian

island
made of shells (Mound Key in Estero), numerous Conservancy's and nature
centers, or travel the Tamiami Trail to Miami and stop at the old trading
post down in Chokoloskee.


Thanks.

Next time I pass through I will post for more specific info.

Mark Browne



basskisser April 12th 04 03:03 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message om...
We've gotten off-topic from the topic in an off-topic thread. The info I
posted about Naples was made to refute basskisser's claim that it's a town
of swamp-billies. I don't need to sell the place to anybody. People are
finding it all on their own (much to the detriment of the unspoiled,
quaint-town feel...and the awful traffic in season).


So bassie...
Which shopping plaza did you help build? LOL!


Didn't "help" build one. I did, however, supervise the Wal-Mart plaza. LOL.

basskisser April 12th 04 03:05 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message link.net...
In article , "NOYB" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
Naples is unique, say, from St.
Pete, because there is a LOT of swamp people. They are the equivelent
of hillbillies.


As usual, your timing is impeccable. Just today, in the local paper:

Naples Daily News

To print this page, select File then Print from your browser
URL:
http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/news/...796311,00.html



High home prices seemingly no barrier to buyers
By THERESA STAHL
April 10, 2004

The highest home prices in the state aren't keeping buyers away from
purchasing a piece of Southwest Florida.

[SNIP]

dadgum affluent swampbillies!


"dadgum"? Those non-words just come flying out of you. The drunker you
get, the more they fly.

basskisser April 12th 04 03:11 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message .com...
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:
wrote in message
. com...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote in message
om...

snip
Ever been to Naples, Florida, Don?


been to Orlando, Tampa , St. Pete's Beach..etc.
Close enough?

No, no, and no. Naples is unique.

I've spent 15 years in the Tampa Bay area, and I've spent a LOT of
time in Naples. I was there for seven months, I worked as a super for
a company that built shopping centers. Naples is unique, say, from St.
Pete, because there is a LOT of swamp people. They are the equivelent
of hillbillies.


Do they put those holes in their pumpkins like you do?


bassie prefers relatives. Young ones.


Any evidence to back up your wild, unfounded allegations, or do you
just want to admit that you're posting lies?

NOYB April 12th 04 03:43 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

om...
We've gotten off-topic from the topic in an off-topic thread. The info

I
posted about Naples was made to refute basskisser's claim that it's a

town
of swamp-billies. I don't need to sell the place to anybody. People are
finding it all on their own (much to the detriment of the unspoiled,
quaint-town feel...and the awful traffic in season).


So bassie...
Which shopping plaza did you help build? LOL!


Didn't "help" build one. I did, however, supervise the Wal-Mart plaza.

LOL.

You were parking lot security?



NOYB April 12th 04 03:44 PM

OT Oh no! What next?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

.com...
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:
wrote in message
. com...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote in message
om...

snip
Ever been to Naples, Florida, Don?


been to Orlando, Tampa , St. Pete's Beach..etc.
Close enough?

No, no, and no. Naples is unique.

I've spent 15 years in the Tampa Bay area, and I've spent a LOT of
time in Naples. I was there for seven months, I worked as a super for
a company that built shopping centers. Naples is unique, say, from

St.
Pete, because there is a LOT of swamp people. They are the equivelent
of hillbillies.

Do they put those holes in their pumpkins like you do?


bassie prefers relatives. Young ones.


Any evidence to back up your wild, unfounded allegations, or do you
just want to admit that you're posting lies?


Please provide some proof of your allegations that I'm lying.




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