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"Don" wrote in message news:d8kq30 At 1:30 PM PST we will know if Michael Jackson is guilty or not guilty. No, we will merely know whether the jury convicts him or not. |
Bringing me up again?
You seem to be quite the obsessed fan. Poor deluded boy. Shall I send you an autographed photo? |
There's an important legal difference between "innocent" and
"not-guilty". It isn't a crime to be rich, eccentric, or a celebrity or to lead a controversial lifestyle. In the United States, if the government chooses to accuse you of a crime it has the obligation to convince a judge and/or jury that you are guilty beyond any "reasonable" doubt. The difference between "innocent" and "not guilty" is a legal difference, not a moral difference, but that's why our system says that the accused will be tried in a courtroom and not in a church. Personally, I'm not absolutely sure that MJ is really innocent......but I'm ready to accept the well-considered opinion of twelve people (who have spent the last several weeks hearing and evaluating the evidence on a full time basis) that the prosecution failed to present a case that transcended "reasonable doubt". They were there, they heard the evidence, and they are surely better prepared to render an informed opinion than the rest of us with only well-filtered, carefully spun snippets from the news. Being weird doesn't make him guilty, it only makes him weird. The outcome is sort of like OJ- even if he did it, (and a high percentage of people will continue to suspect that he did) the prosecution failed to present enough compelling evidence to convice the jury. "Not guilty" (but maybe "not innocent" as well). |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ps.com... *JimH* wrote: "Don" wrote in message ... At 1:30 PM PST we will know if Michael Jackson is guilty or not guilty. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/13/na...rtner=homepage Let's hope Chuck does not turn this into a racist thread like he did the Mike Tyson joke thread. ;-) What happened to your vow not to stir **** here? It's all you've done that last week or so. Seems just like the other time you went off the deep end and posted lie after lie about me. BTW: I did not *stir* any sh*t here Kevin. I responded to utterly ridiculous charges made against me to a joke I made, as well as some name calling scattered in between. It generally came from 2 people here, although you have made a good case of being person #3 doing so. When was the last boating related post you made Kevin? You first post at 8 a.m. when you get to work and stop posting at 5 p.m. when you leave. 99.9% posts of yours during that time are OT and inflammatory. Go look in the mirror Kevin. Too bad you've missed the whole point! *I* never made such a vow to not post off topic, to quit being inflammatory, etc. YOU DID! Now, see the thread about Clams, I'll prove to you and your band of idiots that I am in fact, NOT Kevin Noble. Will you then be a man and apologize for calling me him all this time? |
John H wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:05:18 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: "Don" wrote in message ... At 1:30 PM PST we will know if Michael Jackson is guilty or not guilty. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/13/na...rtner=homepage Let's hope Chuck does not turn this into a racist thread like he did the Mike Tyson joke thread. ;-) What happened to your vow not to stir **** here? It's all you've done that last week or so. Seems just like the other time you went off the deep end and posted lie after lie about me. I posted a fact Kevin. I think Kevin is getting ****ed 'cause not even Harry is answering his posts. -- John H John, you didn't answer my question. Will you be a man and apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:38:55 GMT, Don White wrote:
wrote: Too bad you've missed the whole point! *I* never made such a vow to not post off topic, to quit being inflammatory, etc. YOU DID! Now, see the thread about Clams, I'll prove to you and your band of idiots that I am in fact, NOT Kevin Noble. Will you then be a man and apologize for calling me him all this time? This gang of clowns don't care about facts or the truth. They just latch onto whatever they think will get your goat. You could bring 'Mother Theresa' back as a witness and they would heckle her. Don't discourage him, Don. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:27:54 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:38:55 GMT, Don White wrote: wrote: Too bad you've missed the whole point! *I* never made such a vow to not post off topic, to quit being inflammatory, etc. YOU DID! Now, see the thread about Clams, I'll prove to you and your band of idiots that I am in fact, NOT Kevin Noble. Will you then be a man and apologize for calling me him all this time? This gang of clowns don't care about facts or the truth. They just latch onto whatever they think will get your goat. You could bring 'Mother Theresa' back as a witness and they would heckle her. Don't discourage him, Don. I head a great Michael Jackson joke today, but I'm not going to tell it. Too many sensitive eyeballs. Later, Tom |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... | On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:27:54 -0400, John H | wrote: | | On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:38:55 GMT, Don White wrote: | | wrote: | | | Too bad you've missed the whole point! *I* never made such a vow to not | post off topic, to quit being inflammatory, etc. YOU DID! Now, see the | thread about Clams, I'll prove to you and your band of idiots that I am | in fact, NOT Kevin Noble. Will you then be a man and apologize for | calling me him all this time? | | | This gang of clowns don't care about facts or the truth. They just | latch onto whatever they think will get your goat. | You could bring 'Mother Theresa' back as a witness and they would heckle | her. | | Don't discourage him, Don. | | I head a great Michael Jackson joke today, but I'm not going to tell | it. I've got a good Michael Jackson joke that will horrify the PC crowd. Q: Do you why Michael Jackson held his baby out over the rail on the high balcony? A: Michael just got done reading the Wizard of Oz and thought all monkeys could fly. CN |
Capt. Neal=AE wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news= ... | On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:27:54 -0400, John H | wrote: | | On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:38:55 GMT, Don White w= rote: | | wrote: | | | Too bad you've missed the whole point! *I* never made such a vow to= not | post off topic, to quit being inflammatory, etc. YOU DID! Now, see = the | thread about Clams, I'll prove to you and your band of idiots that = I am | in fact, NOT Kevin Noble. Will you then be a man and apologize for | calling me him all this time? | | | This gang of clowns don't care about facts or the truth. They just | latch onto whatever they think will get your goat. | You could bring 'Mother Theresa' back as a witness and they would hec= kle | her. | | Don't discourage him, Don. | | I head a great Michael Jackson joke today, but I'm not going to tell | it. I've got a good Michael Jackson joke that will horrify the PC crowd. Q: Do you why Michael Jackson held his baby out over the rail on the high balcony? A: Michael just got done reading the Wizard of Oz and thought all monkeys could fly. Politically correct has nothing to do with anything here. Oh, hell, by your **** above, you've proven yourself too much of an idiot to understand, so good day. |
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