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My guess is that most of those who slam unions in their posts here
would
not qualify for any skilled union craft job in the building or
manufacturing trades, and resent the fact that many union craft
workers
earn solidly middle class incomes.

I recall some final year electrician apprentices I met in San
Francisco,
including a young woman who already had a college degree and was
working
as an accountant before joining up with the union. She's now working
as
a control motor installer at $75,000 a year, straight time. And is
worth
every penny.

Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

Why I don't Buy Boating/Fishing Gear at Wal-Mart
 

"""Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.""'

No, harry tell me this isn't so. No card waving, self respecting family
membership team player would never secretively disobey the carny code.
You bought an offshore product (that is made here by local brotherhoods)????

LOL, Harry your all over the place, your so far behind you think your first.
If your not already, your gonna have to give your head a shake over this
one.






"Christopher Robin" wrote in message
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My guess is that most of those who slam unions in their posts here
would
not qualify for any skilled union craft job in the building or
manufacturing trades, and resent the fact that many union craft
workers
earn solidly middle class incomes.

I recall some final year electrician apprentices I met in San
Francisco,
including a young woman who already had a college degree and was
working
as an accountant before joining up with the union. She's now working
as
a control motor installer at $75,000 a year, straight time. And is
worth
every penny.

Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

Why I don't Buy Boating/Fishing Gear at Wal-Mart
 

"Christopher Robin" wrote in message
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My guess is that most of those who slam unions in their posts here
would
not qualify for any skilled union craft job in the building or
manufacturing trades, and resent the fact that many union craft
workers
earn solidly middle class incomes.

I recall some final year electrician apprentices I met in San
Francisco,
including a young woman who already had a college degree and was
working
as an accountant before joining up with the union. She's now working
as
a control motor installer at $75,000 a year, straight time. And is
worth
every penny.

Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

I wonder if that was before or after he stole money from the unions he
"services" at ULLICO. LMAO!

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"jim--" wrote in message
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Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

I wonder if that was before or after he stole money from the unions he
"services" at ULLICO. LMAO!

Don't forget, that Japanese motor is bolted to a non-union made boat that
sits on a non-union made trailer that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jim--" wrote in message
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Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

I wonder if that was before or after he stole money from the unions he
"services" at ULLICO. LMAO!

Don't forget, that Japanese motor is bolted to a non-union made boat that
sits on a non-union made trailer that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of interest?
(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no good
explanation I guess).

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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:29:13 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message
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"jim--" wrote in message
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Hypocrisy, Hairball, you are the one who bought a Jap motor instead of
a union-made USA motor.

I wonder if that was before or after he stole money from the unions he
"services" at ULLICO. LMAO!

Don't forget, that Japanese motor is bolted to a non-union made boat that
sits on a non-union made trailer that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of interest?
(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no good
explanation I guess).


The more he can cause the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, the more
he'll be able to complain about outsourcing. Makes sense to me!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of
interest?
(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no good
explanation I guess).


You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?

24' Alumaweld Formula Vee with Evinrude outboards...towed behind a Ford
F150.

http://www.alumaweldboats.com/detail...ge=description

Union-made ain't too appealing, eh?

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Harry Krause wrote:

NOYB wrote:

He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of interest?
(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no good
explanation I guess).

You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?

That's your excuse?

-- Charlie

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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:



He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of

interest?

(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no good
explanation I guess).


You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?


24' Alumaweld Formula Vee with Evinrude outboards...towed behind a Ford
F150.

http://www.alumaweldboats.com/detail...ge=description

Union-made ain't too appealing, eh?



You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?

Why I don't Buy Boating/Fishing Gear at Wal-Mart
 

Harry,

It sounds like you desire to get the boat you want, overrides your desire to
buy unionmade. Most people do agree with you.

Is Mercruiser union made? If not, at least they are made in America by
Americans. Why did you buy a imported motor?

Aren't you the one who said the quotes listed below. The only question I
have did Yamaha make reparations to those forced into slave labor camps?

(The following was retrieved by typing in author Harry Krause subject
Japanese. Somehow I knew Harry was a hypocrite.)

"You just keep waving your Rising Sun flag. Me, I'm waiting to see how
many billions in reparations the Japanese corporations will cough off to
pay off those they forced into slave labor camps during WW II.

The Germans paid up. The Japanese never coughed up a dime.

Their payments are due.
--
Harry Krause"

"I prefer the Mitsubishi label, reminds me of the A6M-Zero-Sen, that
wonderful product used with great effectiveness at Pearl Harbor and then
later in those heroic Kamikaze attacks. "

Please. There's a long list of war atrocities committed by the Japanese
against civilians. If you want a single reference, just check out the
Rape of Nanking. About 300,000 Chinese civilians were slaughtered by the
Emperor's troops in less than two months.

There are many who feel Japan has never been contrite enough over its
crimes against humanity. "

"There has been some serious talk about forcing Japan and Japanese
corporations to pay compensation to those who were forced to work as
slave laborers for the "Empire" during World War II. Some of the German
corporations recently agreed to compensate those who were forced into
slavery on its behalf during World War II."

What a fab idea. He can have a bronze plaque placed on it, stating:

"From the wonderful folks who brought you Pearl Harbor."


It looks to me that this Harry guy is a complete farce and is just jerking
everyones chain. My guess is he shops at Wal-Mart every weekend. I can see
him wearing a shirt that says "I'm with stupid" and an arrow pointing to his
fat wife wearing purple shorts. Both of them waddling up and down the
aisles looking for Chinese products to buy.


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of
interest?
(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no
good
explanation I guess).


You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?

24' Alumaweld Formula Vee with Evinrude outboards...towed behind a Ford
F150.

http://www.alumaweldboats.com/detail...ge=description

Union-made ain't too appealing, eh?

Why I don't Buy Boating/Fishing Gear at Wal-Mart
 

"Joe" wrote in message news:GN_bc.9339
that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

WRONG!!!!!!

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:



He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of

interest?

(I'm trying to help rationalize this for you, Harry, but there's no
good
explanation I guess).


You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?


24' Alumaweld Formula Vee with Evinrude outboards...towed behind a Ford
F150.

http://www.alumaweldboats.com/detail...ge=description

Union-made ain't too appealing, eh?



You have a list of 25' pilothouse fishing boats produced in the United
States by a unionized workforce?

I gave you the extensive list:
Alumaweld boats.
Evinrude engines.

You're proving my point for me. When choosing between union-made and non
union-made, there isn't usually much of a choice.

Do you really believe that you are doing the country a favor by buying Made
in China products at a store *other* than Wal-Mart? Your gripe has been
about the loss of manufacturing jobs. *Where* you buy your foreign made
products has virtually no impact on a manufacturer's decision as to where
he'll build them.

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 12:05:52 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:



He's a union member, so buying union-made might be a conflict of

interest?

I think union officials have only one interest, taking as much as possible from
union members. Harry still hasn't addressed this:

The U.S. Dept. of Labor has obtained a consent judgment requiring Wash.,
D.C.-based Trust Fund Advisors (TFA) and Union Labor Life Insurance Co. to
pay $2.4 million in restitution to two Laborers pension funds and civil
penalties to the Labor Department. "The Labor Department's legal actions in
the Union Labor Life Insurance case will restore lost assets to thousands of
union workers," said Secy. of Labor Elaine Chao, "and make clear that those
who manage union funds cannot ignore their fiduciary responsibilities."

The Labor Dept. sued the defendants on March 22, 2002, for violating the
Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) when they imprudently used
pension assets to purchase and develop a 120-acre tract of raw land in North
Las Vegas into saleable building lots in 1995. The suit also alleged that
ULLICO and TFA failed to properly investigate the merits of the real estate
project and, ultimately, abandoned it in 1997 without selling any lots. The
funds suffered losses when the property was sold in June 1999 for less than
the amount of the investment.

TFA was the investment manager to the two funds sponsored by the Laborers
Intl. Union of N. Amer. - the National Industrial Pension Fund and the Local
Union and District Council Pension Fund. TFA hired ULLICO as a qualified
professional asset manager to handle all real estate investments made on
behalf of the funds. The National Industrial Pension Fund covered 46,508
participants and the Local Union and District Council Pension Fund covered
7,106 participants as of January 2002. The funds had cumulative assets in
excess of $1.1 billion.

The judgment, filed in the U.S. Dist. Ct. in Wash., D.C., resulted from an
investigation conducted by the Philadelphia regional office of DOL's
Employee Benefits Security Admin. [EBSA, 3/15/04]


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message news:GN_bc.9339
that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

WRONG!!!!!!

Yes, you are, once again.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message news:GN_bc.9339
that is pulled by a non-union made Toyota
Tundra.

WRONG!!!!!!

Well (b)asshole, where's the proof of your wild, unfounded assumption?