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I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top
pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It
takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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Tony, don't sound like anyone believes you with the 15hp = 1mph faster! I
do! "tony thomas" wrote in message news:PiKpe.27752$x96.17450@attbi_s72... Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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I didn't see anyone disputing that.
"Woodchuck" wrote in message .. . Tony, don't sound like anyone believes you with the 15hp = 1mph faster! I do! "tony thomas" wrote in message news:PiKpe.27752$x96.17450@attbi_s72... Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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I will. I added 15 hp to one of my boats and more than doubled my
speed. 9.8 HP outboard = 7~8 mph I switched to a 25 HP = 20~25MPH depending on load. 15HP increase = 13~17MPH speed increase. on an 16'6" aluminum boat. Paul JamesgangNC wrote: I didn't see anyone disputing that. "Woodchuck" wrote in message .. . Tony, don't sound like anyone believes you with the 15hp = 1mph faster! I do! "tony thomas" wrote in message news:PiKpe.27752$x96.17450@attbi_s72... Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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Probably enough power to get the boat to plane. Displacement speed before.
Bill "Paul" wrote in message oups.com... I will. I added 15 hp to one of my boats and more than doubled my speed. 9.8 HP outboard = 7~8 mph I switched to a 25 HP = 20~25MPH depending on load. 15HP increase = 13~17MPH speed increase. on an 16'6" aluminum boat. Paul JamesgangNC wrote: I didn't see anyone disputing that. "Woodchuck" wrote in message .. . Tony, don't sound like anyone believes you with the 15hp = 1mph faster! I do! "tony thomas" wrote in message news:PiKpe.27752$x96.17450@attbi_s72... Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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Your talking about a 1.5 times increase in hp. We are talking about adding
15 hp to an engine that has 190 hp to begin with. Going from 190 to 205 will not increase the speed by 13~17 MPH. It may increase it by 2 mph if your lucky. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Paul" wrote in message oups.com... I will. I added 15 hp to one of my boats and more than doubled my speed. 9.8 HP outboard = 7~8 mph I switched to a 25 HP = 20~25MPH depending on load. 15HP increase = 13~17MPH speed increase. on an 16'6" aluminum boat. Paul JamesgangNC wrote: I didn't see anyone disputing that. "Woodchuck" wrote in message .. . Tony, don't sound like anyone believes you with the 15hp = 1mph faster! I do! "tony thomas" wrote in message news:PiKpe.27752$x96.17450@attbi_s72... Unless you are rebuilding the engine anyway, I would not waist my money. It takes a lot of hp to gain any real benefit on the water. Most quote 15 hp to 1 mph. Spend your money on a 350 assuming your boat is 18' or bigger. A 17' will probably run sideways from the torque. Biggest bang for the buck is usually found by going to a good performance SS prop. You can see 5 mph gain with the right prop over a cheap aluminum one. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - "Gorf" wrote in message ... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? -- John WWW.Firewalk-NC.com "Be the change you wish to see in others" ----Gandhi |
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In article ,
says... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? Almost everything swaps with most 350's. Of course there are 'large jounal' and 'small journal' 350's, and one can't really make more than a generalized statement about the 4.3 262 being a 350 minus two jugs. As for flat top pistons, Geez, everyone makes them for a 4.3, wiseco, TRW, Sealed Power (who is TRW in disguise anyway) Keith Black Silv-O-Lite. It isn't worth your time or trouble unless your motor is already apart. If so, go with forged aluminum. They can take the most abuse, it's all the blower crowd would ever consider. |
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![]() "Gudmundur" wrote in message ... In article , says... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? Almost everything swaps with most 350's. Of course there are 'large jounal' and 'small journal' 350's, and one can't really make more than a generalized statement about the 4.3 262 being a 350 minus two jugs. As for flat top pistons, Geez, everyone makes them for a 4.3, wiseco, TRW, Sealed Power (who is TRW in disguise anyway) Keith Black Silv-O-Lite. It isn't worth your time or trouble unless your motor is already apart. If so, go with forged aluminum. They can take the most abuse, it's all the blower crowd would ever consider. engine is already apart. This spring when I tuned it up and hooked the hose to it to time it, got LOTS of water in the oil. I bought a long block for it before I took it apart. When I took it apart it was the intake manifold that was screwed. I decided to use the new long block anyway. Putting it together I found a valve cover bolt broken off in the head which I had to drill and ez-out. Got it running and it kept backfiring - found the wrong size pushrod in #6 exhaust. But the straw that broke the camels back was, after 1.5 hrs running the intake rocker arm on number was loose, must have been a stuck lifter. So I have returned the motor and am going to rebuild my old block (or at least plastigage the bearing etc). That is where I am at, I am considering the pistons and need at least a gasket kit. I replaced the 2 bbl intake with a 4 bbl intake and adapter plate for my 2 bbl, hopefully I will get 10- 15 hp from this. With the pistons maybe 10-15 more HP???? Any recommendations where I can purchase the pistons and the gasket kit? |
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Give a call to 'The Bowtie Connection', they are super nice folks
with all kinds of Hi-Perf Chevy parts. The blond gal knows her stuff! I see them every year at Fall Carlisle. Also Jegs, or Summit Racing has nice stuff. If you replace the pistons, you are going to get some machine shop time involved, boring/honing, cleaning. You may get some bucks tied up in your motor, but if it will run W.O.T. all day and not blow apart it was worth it! Drop in new Cleavite bearings, that is a good move even if you are just 'freshening up' a factory size set. Boats are so hard on bottom end parts!!! In article , says... "Gudmundur" wrote in message ... In article , says... I have done some research and heard you can put higher compression flat-top pistons in the 4.3 and gain a few HP. Who makes these pistons? I have done a bunch of searches and come up empty handed. A related question, I have also read that the 4.3 is a 350 minus two cylinders and that the pistons and rods are the same. Is this true or false? Almost everything swaps with most 350's. Of course there are 'large jounal' and 'small journal' 350's, and one can't really make more than a generalized statement about the 4.3 262 being a 350 minus two jugs. As for flat top pistons, Geez, everyone makes them for a 4.3, wiseco, TRW, Sealed Power (who is TRW in disguise anyway) Keith Black Silv-O-Lite. It isn't worth your time or trouble unless your motor is already apart. If so, go with forged aluminum. They can take the most abuse, it's all the blower crowd would ever consider. engine is already apart. This spring when I tuned it up and hooked the hose to it to time it, got LOTS of water in the oil. I bought a long block for it before I took it apart. When I took it apart it was the intake manifold that was screwed. I decided to use the new long block anyway. Putting it together I found a valve cover bolt broken off in the head which I had to drill and ez-out. Got it running and it kept backfiring - found the wrong size pushrod in #6 exhaust. But the straw that broke the camels back was, after 1.5 hrs running the intake rocker arm on number was loose, must have been a stuck lifter. So I have returned the motor and am going to rebuild my old block (or at least plastigage the bearing etc). That is where I am at, I am considering the pistons and need at least a gasket kit. I replaced the 2 bbl intake with a 4 bbl intake and adapter plate for my 2 bbl, hopefully I will get 10- 15 hp from this. With the pistons maybe 10-15 more HP???? Any recommendations where I can purchase the pistons and the gasket kit? |
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