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*JimH* June 11th 05 11:18 PM


"John Jay" wrote in message
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Harry,
Did you boat get it's PHD from Yale?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


John H wrote:


Since when is a 25 foot Parker substantially bigger than a 27 foot
Coronado?
What horse****.



Well, let's see, Herring.

LOA Parker 32'
Coronado 26'8"


From the Parker site:
Specifications
Power Outboard
Length 25'4"
Beam 9'6"
Draft 15"
Dry Wt 5300 lbs
Max HP 450
Fuel Capacity 173 gals
Deadrise 16 degree

Of course, you get a lot of living space from the bow pulpit, the
swimming
platform, and the engine. That extra 7' does make it a 'substantially'
bigger
boat than the Coronado. What horse****!



I see you're still a bad loser. What a surprise.


--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




A bad loser? Because he caught you in yet another lie? How funny.



*JimH* June 11th 05 11:26 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:59:13 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Capt. NealŽ wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

Capt. NealŽ wrote:


http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/harry_krause.html

CN



Yep, that would be one of them.

As for your opinion of the boat, Kneel, consider that:

* the trailer it sits on is worth more than your clapped-out, smelly
old sailbote...

* the boat is named after our favorite "ride" at WDW, Pirates of the
Carib...


What's your sailbote's name, Kneel? "Stinky"


My sailboat is the envy of the Eastern seaboard.
I call her "Cut the Mustard." You may feast your
eyes on her and her many to-die-for attributes he

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

CN


I dunno, Kneel...you really live on that boat? It's not much bigger
below decks than the average refrigerator box a homeless guy might like.
The purple upholstery looks pretty slick, though, and I like your nav
station. You've done some nice work on that boat.

Believe it or not, our Parker, which, by the way, is substantially
larger than your sailbote, has a funky little galley with a sink similar
to yours, a double burner stovetop, running water, and a
refrigerator/icemaker.


You know you have an inferiority complex when you have to start bragging
that your 25 footer is bigger than the other guys 27 footer.

How funny.

BTW: Neal, I like the navigation section of your boat. Very nice setup.
However, I am not too keen on the purple interior, but if you like it that
is all that counts. ;-)



John H June 12th 05 01:14 AM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:46:22 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:18:23 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:06:38 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:59:13 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:


Capt. NealŽ wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


Capt. NealŽ wrote:



http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/harry_krause.html

CN



Yep, that would be one of them.

As for your opinion of the boat, Kneel, consider that:

* the trailer it sits on is worth more than your clapped-out,
smelly
old sailbote...

* the boat is named after our favorite "ride" at WDW, Pirates of
the
Carib...


What's your sailbote's name, Kneel? "Stinky"


My sailboat is the envy of the Eastern seaboard.
I call her "Cut the Mustard." You may feast your
eyes on her and her many to-die-for attributes he

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

CN

I dunno, Kneel...you really live on that boat? It's not much bigger
below decks than the average refrigerator box a homeless guy might
like.
The purple upholstery looks pretty slick, though, and I like your
nav
station. You've done some nice work on that boat.

Believe it or not, our Parker, which, by the way, is substantially
larger than your sailbote, has a funky little galley with a sink
similar
to yours, a double burner stovetop, running water, and a
refrigerator/icemaker. I store plastic fishing gear boxes in the
refrigerator. There's also an electric flush toilet in the forward
part
of the cabin. Despite the amenities, though, it ain't a cruising
boat.
It's for fishing.

Here's the nav station.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/stillanon/nav.jpg


By the way, "John Jay" is a usenet troller who
has
at least 45 different "identities" he uses. We call him "Smithers."
He
is one of the ranking pus-filled rectal fissures of the known
universe.
Caveat emptor.

Since when is a 25 foot Parker substantially bigger than a 27 foot
Coronado?
What horse****.

John Jay may or may not be a fake identity, but you and basskisser
seem
to
be
the only ones who refer to any of your detractors as 'Smithers'.

How about some pictures of the 'big boat', Harry? You know, that
Zimmerman-style
lobsta boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of his
modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot
lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Got any pictures of the boat you'll be buying four years from now?

Since you asked nice, here is a picture (sorry about the low
quality....it
is a scan from a photo) of the 270 Sundancer we owned several years
back.
I would probably consider buying another one because Searay made boats
that were bulletproof back then.

http://tinyurl.com/9kbee


BTW, the sky was not dark like it is showing in the picture. I could have
fixed it with photoshop before I posted it but I saw no reason to have to
bother doing that.

Well? What was the 'First Choice'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She was named 'Second Chance', not 'Second Choice'.

My bad. I admit I kinda guessed 'cause it was hard to see. So, what was the
'First Chance'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

*JimH* June 12th 05 03:51 AM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:46:22 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:18:23 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:06:38 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:59:13 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:


Capt. NealŽ wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


Capt. NealŽ wrote:



http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/harry_krause.html

CN



Yep, that would be one of them.

As for your opinion of the boat, Kneel, consider that:

* the trailer it sits on is worth more than your clapped-out,
smelly
old sailbote...

* the boat is named after our favorite "ride" at WDW, Pirates of
the
Carib...


What's your sailbote's name, Kneel? "Stinky"


My sailboat is the envy of the Eastern seaboard.
I call her "Cut the Mustard." You may feast your
eyes on her and her many to-die-for attributes he

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

CN

I dunno, Kneel...you really live on that boat? It's not much
bigger
below decks than the average refrigerator box a homeless guy might
like.
The purple upholstery looks pretty slick, though, and I like your
nav
station. You've done some nice work on that boat.

Believe it or not, our Parker, which, by the way, is substantially
larger than your sailbote, has a funky little galley with a sink
similar
to yours, a double burner stovetop, running water, and a
refrigerator/icemaker. I store plastic fishing gear boxes in the
refrigerator. There's also an electric flush toilet in the forward
part
of the cabin. Despite the amenities, though, it ain't a cruising
boat.
It's for fishing.

Here's the nav station.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/stillanon/nav.jpg


By the way, "John Jay" is a usenet troller
who
has
at least 45 different "identities" he uses. We call him
"Smithers."
He
is one of the ranking pus-filled rectal fissures of the known
universe.
Caveat emptor.

Since when is a 25 foot Parker substantially bigger than a 27 foot
Coronado?
What horse****.

John Jay may or may not be a fake identity, but you and basskisser
seem
to
be
the only ones who refer to any of your detractors as 'Smithers'.

How about some pictures of the 'big boat', Harry? You know, that
Zimmerman-style
lobsta boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of
his
modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot
lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Got any pictures of the boat you'll be buying four years from now?

Since you asked nice, here is a picture (sorry about the low
quality....it
is a scan from a photo) of the 270 Sundancer we owned several years
back.
I would probably consider buying another one because Searay made boats
that were bulletproof back then.

http://tinyurl.com/9kbee


BTW, the sky was not dark like it is showing in the picture. I could
have
fixed it with photoshop before I posted it but I saw no reason to have
to
bother doing that.

Well? What was the 'First Choice'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She was named 'Second Chance', not 'Second Choice'.

My bad. I admit I kinda guessed 'cause it was hard to see. So, what was
the
'First Chance'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."



First Chance was indeed this same boat. We spent an entire 6 months in
1993/94 looking for a decent 270 Dancer (vintage 1985-1988) and saw nothing
but crap. We saw this '87 advertised and took a look We crawled through
this boat in late winter 1994 and it looked good so we hired a good surveyor
(Greg Group) for a structural survey. He called me following his survey (I
was in NYC at the time), leaving a voicemail message asking that I call him
back immediately. I called him later that day only to hear some bad
news........he said he found extensive crazing under the engines and
recommended against buying the boat. The owner blew a fuse when I called
him and had the local SeaRay dealer have it inspected by their body guy.
After inspection the dealership confirmed the crazing situation but said it
was limited to small area under the port engine. Later inspection showed a
broken motor mount causing the problem. The dealer repaired the crazing
problem and replaced the broken motor mount.

The deal was now back on.

We purchased the boat subject to an adequate water trial and the rest is
history.

First chance.....Second chance. ;-)

The major mistake I made on this purchase was not having the engines
compression tested as I ended up having to have one of the engines (if I
recall they had about 750 hours on them at the time of purchase) rebuilt in
late 1994.



*JimH* June 12th 05 04:02 AM


"Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:01:33 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:59:58 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of his
modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Who, but a jealous nancy-boy would give a flying ****?

Really. Get a life other than the one you are living through Krause.
Enough!

rusty redcloud




Hert is a card-carrying member of the "Obsessed with Harry" Club. I
kid you not. Wait, give him a chance, and he'll cough up his litany of
how I plan to drive to dumpy Cleveland to do him harm.


Cleveland? I live 20 miles east of Cleveland.

Regards,
Ted


I could care less about the liar Harry Krause.

He is the one who has the need to respond to each and every one of my
posts.....talk about the "Obsessed With..." club.

He has stalked me and my wife and admitted to doing so, including posting
(in this NG) our address and names. He has also made personal threats to me
and my wife and claimed to have obtained a picture of our house.

Obsessed? Indeed he is.

He has done the exact same thing to several members of this NG only because
they shared a different political view than Krause. How sad.

I have now resorted to making a copy of all his posts referring to me or
directing to me.....they are being forwarded to my attorney as we hope to
bring a civil suit against him in the near future. And that lawsuit will
indeed happen.



John Jay June 12th 05 05:21 AM

JimH,
He does seem very obsessed with you, JohnH, Bert and Smithers.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:01:33 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:59:58 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of his
modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot
lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Who, but a jealous nancy-boy would give a flying ****?

Really. Get a life other than the one you are living through Krause.
Enough!

rusty redcloud



Hert is a card-carrying member of the "Obsessed with Harry" Club. I
kid you not. Wait, give him a chance, and he'll cough up his litany of
how I plan to drive to dumpy Cleveland to do him harm.


Cleveland? I live 20 miles east of Cleveland.

Regards,
Ted


I could care less about the liar Harry Krause.

He is the one who has the need to respond to each and every one of my
posts.....talk about the "Obsessed With..." club.

He has stalked me and my wife and admitted to doing so, including posting
(in this NG) our address and names. He has also made personal threats to
me and my wife and claimed to have obtained a picture of our house.

Obsessed? Indeed he is.

He has done the exact same thing to several members of this NG only
because they shared a different political view than Krause. How sad.

I have now resorted to making a copy of all his posts referring to me or
directing to me.....they are being forwarded to my attorney as we hope to
bring a civil suit against him in the near future. And that lawsuit will
indeed happen.




John H June 12th 05 11:26 AM

OK. Thanks! Good reason.


On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:51:30 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:46:22 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:18:23 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:06:38 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:59:13 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:


Capt. NealŽ wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
.. .


Capt. NealŽ wrote:



http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/harry_krause.html

CN



Yep, that would be one of them.

As for your opinion of the boat, Kneel, consider that:

* the trailer it sits on is worth more than your clapped-out,
smelly
old sailbote...

* the boat is named after our favorite "ride" at WDW, Pirates of
the
Carib...


What's your sailbote's name, Kneel? "Stinky"


My sailboat is the envy of the Eastern seaboard.
I call her "Cut the Mustard." You may feast your
eyes on her and her many to-die-for attributes he

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

CN

I dunno, Kneel...you really live on that boat? It's not much
bigger
below decks than the average refrigerator box a homeless guy might
like.
The purple upholstery looks pretty slick, though, and I like your
nav
station. You've done some nice work on that boat.

Believe it or not, our Parker, which, by the way, is substantially
larger than your sailbote, has a funky little galley with a sink
similar
to yours, a double burner stovetop, running water, and a
refrigerator/icemaker. I store plastic fishing gear boxes in the
refrigerator. There's also an electric flush toilet in the forward
part
of the cabin. Despite the amenities, though, it ain't a cruising
boat.
It's for fishing.

Here's the nav station.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/stillanon/nav.jpg


By the way, "John Jay" is a usenet troller
who
has
at least 45 different "identities" he uses. We call him
"Smithers."
He
is one of the ranking pus-filled rectal fissures of the known
universe.
Caveat emptor.

Since when is a 25 foot Parker substantially bigger than a 27 foot
Coronado?
What horse****.

John Jay may or may not be a fake identity, but you and basskisser
seem
to
be
the only ones who refer to any of your detractors as 'Smithers'.

How about some pictures of the 'big boat', Harry? You know, that
Zimmerman-style
lobsta boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of
his
modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot
lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Got any pictures of the boat you'll be buying four years from now?

Since you asked nice, here is a picture (sorry about the low
quality....it
is a scan from a photo) of the 270 Sundancer we owned several years
back.
I would probably consider buying another one because Searay made boats
that were bulletproof back then.

http://tinyurl.com/9kbee


BTW, the sky was not dark like it is showing in the picture. I could
have
fixed it with photoshop before I posted it but I saw no reason to have
to
bother doing that.

Well? What was the 'First Choice'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She was named 'Second Chance', not 'Second Choice'.

My bad. I admit I kinda guessed 'cause it was hard to see. So, what was
the
'First Chance'?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."



First Chance was indeed this same boat. We spent an entire 6 months in
1993/94 looking for a decent 270 Dancer (vintage 1985-1988) and saw nothing
but crap. We saw this '87 advertised and took a look We crawled through
this boat in late winter 1994 and it looked good so we hired a good surveyor
(Greg Group) for a structural survey. He called me following his survey (I
was in NYC at the time), leaving a voicemail message asking that I call him
back immediately. I called him later that day only to hear some bad
news........he said he found extensive crazing under the engines and
recommended against buying the boat. The owner blew a fuse when I called
him and had the local SeaRay dealer have it inspected by their body guy.
After inspection the dealership confirmed the crazing situation but said it
was limited to small area under the port engine. Later inspection showed a
broken motor mount causing the problem. The dealer repaired the crazing
problem and replaced the broken motor mount.

The deal was now back on.

We purchased the boat subject to an adequate water trial and the rest is
history.

First chance.....Second chance. ;-)

The major mistake I made on this purchase was not having the engines
compression tested as I ended up having to have one of the engines (if I
recall they had about 750 hours on them at the time of purchase) rebuilt in
late 1994.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 12th 05 11:29 AM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:48:58 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:



First Chance was indeed this same boat. We spent an entire 6 months in
1993/94 looking for a decent 270 Dancer (vintage 1985-1988) and saw nothing
but crap. We saw this '87 advertised and took a look We crawled through
this boat in late winter 1994 and it looked good so we hired a good surveyor
(Greg Group) for a structural survey. He called me following his survey (I
was in NYC at the time), leaving a voicemail message asking that I call him
back immediately. I called him later that day only to hear some bad
news........he said he found extensive crazing under the engines and
recommended against buying the boat. The owner blew a fuse when I called
him and had the local SeaRay dealer have it inspected by their body guy.
After inspection the dealership confirmed the crazing situation but said it
was limited to small area under the port engine. Later inspection showed a
broken motor mount causing the problem. The dealer repaired the crazing
problem and replaced the broken motor mount.




All this for a clapped out old searay?


Such bitterness, huh Harry? Is it because everyone will *believe* JimH's story?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 12th 05 11:32 AM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:19:55 -0400, Ted tedwilliams@nospam wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:01:33 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:59:58 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of his modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Who, but a jealous nancy-boy would give a flying ****?

Really. Get a life other than the one you are living through Krause. Enough!

rusty redcloud




Hertvik is a card-carrying member of the "Obsessed with Harry" Club. I
kid you not. Wait, give him a chance, and he'll cough up his litany of
how I plan to drive to dumpy Cleveland to do him harm.


It is not Dumpy!!!!!!!!

Your state and town, whatever it is is dumpy!

Ted


He'll be back to apologize and suck up to you since you're a new guy. He'll spin
it a different way.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 12th 05 11:34 AM

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:01:33 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:59:58 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



I always find it funny when Krause is happy to share pictures of his modest
fishing boat but has never posted any of his custom made 36 foot lobster
boat.

Do you think there may be a reason for that?



Who, but a jealous nancy-boy would give a flying ****?

Really. Get a life other than the one you are living through Krause. Enough!

rusty redcloud




Hertvik is a card-carrying member of the "Obsessed with Harry" Club. I
kid you not. Wait, give him a chance, and he'll cough up his litany of
how I plan to drive to dumpy Cleveland to do him harm.

He's a boatless asshole, and apparently a racist, too, based upon some
of his other comments here.


The only obsession, Harry, is you with yourself. I hope you're not standing near
if your ego ever crumbles.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


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