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[email protected] June 1st 05 01:21 AM

Boater cited for presence at a dangerous bar....
 
In a 17-footer!
Obviously more 'nads than brains.



Office of Public Affairs
U.S. Coast Guard Thirteenth District




Press Release Date: May 31, 2005
Contact: PA3 Jeff Pollinger 206-220 7237




MASTER CITED WITH NEGLIGENT OPERATION AFTER CROSSING DANGEROUS RIVER
BAR



SEATTLE - The Coast Guard cited the operator of a 17-foot pleasure
craft with negligent operations Monday after he unlawfully crossed the
Siuslaw River bar near Florence, Ore.



At 5:25 a.m., the Coast Guard issued a restriction that prohibited
recreational boats and un-inspected passenger vessels from crossing the
bar because of hazardous conditions. The rough bar warning light was
turned on and repeated broadcasts on VHF radio channel 22A were made to
notify vessels in the area of the dangerous conditions.



At 7:30 a.m., the Morning Rising was observed crossing the river bar by
crew members at Coast Guard Station Siuslaw River.



At 8:53 a.m., after conditions further deteriorated, the station
launched a 47-foot motor lifeboat to ensure the vessel could safely
return across the bar. The Morning Rising was located by the motor
lifeboat crew and escorted safely back across the river bar.



Upon reaching shore, a dockside safety inspection was conducted and the
operator was cited with negligent operation for crossing a restricted
bar and for having expired flares and expired fire extinguishers.



The Coast Guard would like to remind boaters to check the condition of
river bars, weather and their vessel before heading out. Warnings of
adverse conditions on river bars should be taken seriously. If in
doubt, contact the nearest Coast Guard Station on VHF-FM channel 16 and
ask for an updated bar report.









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The U.S. Coast Guard is a military, maritime, multi-mission service
within the
Department of Homeland Security dedicated to protecting the safety and
security of America.










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JR North June 1st 05 02:45 AM

Hmmmmm. I never had much pleasure in a 17 footer...
JR

wrote:
In a 17-footer!
Obviously more 'nads than brains.



Office of Public Affairs
U.S. Coast Guard Thirteenth District




Press Release Date: May 31, 2005
Contact: PA3 Jeff Pollinger 206-220 7237




MASTER CITED WITH NEGLIGENT OPERATION AFTER CROSSING DANGEROUS RIVER
BAR



SEATTLE - The Coast Guard cited the operator of a 17-foot pleasure
craft with negligent operations Monday after he unlawfully crossed the
Siuslaw River bar near Florence, Ore.



At 5:25 a.m., the Coast Guard issued a restriction that prohibited
recreational boats and un-inspected passenger vessels from crossing the
bar because of hazardous conditions. The rough bar warning light was
turned on and repeated broadcasts on VHF radio channel 22A were made to
notify vessels in the area of the dangerous conditions.



At 7:30 a.m., the Morning Rising was observed crossing the river bar by
crew members at Coast Guard Station Siuslaw River.



At 8:53 a.m., after conditions further deteriorated, the station
launched a 47-foot motor lifeboat to ensure the vessel could safely
return across the bar. The Morning Rising was located by the motor
lifeboat crew and escorted safely back across the river bar.



Upon reaching shore, a dockside safety inspection was conducted and the
operator was cited with negligent operation for crossing a restricted
bar and for having expired flares and expired fire extinguishers.



The Coast Guard would like to remind boaters to check the condition of
river bars, weather and their vessel before heading out. Warnings of
adverse conditions on river bars should be taken seriously. If in
doubt, contact the nearest Coast Guard Station on VHF-FM channel 16 and
ask for an updated bar report.









###

The U.S. Coast Guard is a military, maritime, multi-mission service
within the
Department of Homeland Security dedicated to protecting the safety and
security of America.










View this document online
U.S. Coast Guard - 13th District
13th District Public Information Site
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Sal's Dad June 1st 05 12:47 PM

Operating in an area that is occasionally closed for "security" reasons, I
am unclear as to how this information is disseminated. I don't have VHF
aboard (I don't believe this is a requirement, and I really don't want to
have to listen to all the chit-chat), and don't go near public docks or
launching points, even if information were posted there.

Once I became aware of a closing "issue" when a Navy helicopter, fully
armed, hovered above my little sailboat for an extended period, checking us
out... very unsettling...

I guess I'm unclear on how notification of closings takes place. If an area
is temporarily closed but a skipper is not notified, can/should authorities
cite him for negligence?

Not to say the skipper in this case was prudent...

--
Sal's Dad


At 5:25 a.m., the Coast Guard issued a restriction that prohibited
recreational boats and un-inspected passenger vessels from crossing the
bar because of hazardous conditions. The rough bar warning light was
turned on and repeated broadcasts on VHF radio channel 22A were made to
notify vessels in the area of the dangerous conditions.

snip

and the operator was cited with negligent operation for crossing a
restricted
bar and for having expired flares and expired fire extinguishers.




Jim Carter June 1st 05 03:15 PM


"Sal's Dad" wrote in message
...
Operating in an area that is occasionally closed for "security" reasons, I
am unclear as to how this information is disseminated. I don't have VHF
aboard (I don't believe this is a requirement, and I really don't want to
have to listen to all the chit-chat), and don't go near public docks or
launching points, even if information were posted there.

Once I became aware of a closing "issue" when a Navy helicopter, fully
armed, hovered above my little sailboat for an extended period, checking

us
out... very unsettling...

I guess I'm unclear on how notification of closings takes place. If an

area
is temporarily closed but a skipper is not notified, can/should

authorities
cite him for negligence?

Not to say the skipper in this case was prudent...

--
Sal's Dad


At 5:25 a.m., the Coast Guard issued a restriction that prohibited
recreational boats and un-inspected passenger vessels from crossing the
bar because of hazardous conditions. The rough bar warning light was
turned on and repeated broadcasts on VHF radio channel 22A were made to
notify vessels in the area of the dangerous conditions.

snip

and the operator was cited with negligent operation for crossing a
restricted
bar and for having expired flares and expired fire extinguishers.






Jim Carter June 1st 05 03:16 PM


"Sal's Dad" wrote in message
...
Operating in an area that is occasionally closed for "security" reasons, I
am unclear as to how this information is disseminated. I don't have VHF
aboard (I don't believe this is a requirement, and I really don't want to
have to listen to all the chit-chat), and don't go near public docks or
launching points, even if information were posted there.

Once I became aware of a closing "issue" when a Navy helicopter, fully
armed, hovered above my little sailboat for an extended period, checking

us
out... very unsettling...

I guess I'm unclear on how notification of closings takes place. If an

area
is temporarily closed but a skipper is not notified, can/should

authorities
cite him for negligence?

Not to say the skipper in this case was prudent...

--
Sal's Dad


At 5:25 a.m., the Coast Guard issued a restriction that prohibited
recreational boats and un-inspected passenger vessels from crossing the
bar because of hazardous conditions. The rough bar warning light was
turned on and repeated broadcasts on VHF radio channel 22A were made to
notify vessels in the area of the dangerous conditions.

snip

and the operator was cited with negligent operation for crossing a
restricted
bar and for having expired flares and expired fire extinguishers.






Doug Kanter June 1st 05 03:54 PM

How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call the
fire dept?



Don White June 1st 05 04:30 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call the
fire dept?


The Ccanadian Coast Guard and the Cdn Power & Sail Squadron used to have
a demonstration here once a year where you could take the flares and
shoot them off. Now we're supposed to give them to the local police.

[email protected] June 1st 05 05:39 PM

How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call
the
fire dept?


**************

Don't do the 4th of July routine. The only reason you might not get
busted is that the cops are too busy dealing with everybody else.

Flares that are designed to be shot off when surrounded by wide
expanses of open water are not automatically safe when discharged into
the air while surrounded by hundreds of boats anchored or rafted beam
to beam for a fireworks display.

It isn't uncommon to see an illegally discharged, still burning,
parachute flare fall onto another boat's deck or rigging at FOJ
celebrations. I once saw a boater give a buring hand-held flare to a
little kid I'd be reluctant to trust with a sparkler.

The last time I bought flares, I took the expired cartridges down to
the fire station. At first, they gave me a hassle. "You need to call so
and so at such and such a phone number and make an appointment (on the
fourth Thursday of the next month with an R in the name) to drive 50
miles out of town and turn these in......."

When I commented, "Wow. That seems like a major inconvenience. I'm
surprised more people don't just screw all of that nonsense and throw
them into the nearest dumpster..........." they suddenly became very
accommodating and eagerly accepted my flares. :-)


Sal's Dad June 1st 05 06:41 PM

If you haven't had some practice firing flares, you should - it is quite
enlightening.

We regularly shoot off last years' flares on July 4th, or another local
"celebration". Flares are fired from the shore over the water (nowhere near
any boats) as practice.

As many as 75% misfire some years (not counting the expired ones!), and an
occasional burn from the hand-fired type keeps the reliability and safety of
these things in perspective.

--
Sal's Dad


How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call
the
fire dept?


**************

Don't do the 4th of July routine. The only reason you might not get
busted is that the cops are too busy dealing with everybody else.

Flares that are designed to be shot off when surrounded by wide
expanses of open water are not automatically safe when discharged into
the air while surrounded by hundreds of boats anchored or rafted beam
to beam for a fireworks display.

It isn't uncommon to see an illegally discharged, still burning,
parachute flare fall onto another boat's deck or rigging at FOJ
celebrations. I once saw a boater give a buring hand-held flare to a
little kid I'd be reluctant to trust with a sparkler.

The last time I bought flares, I took the expired cartridges down to
the fire station. At first, they gave me a hassle. "You need to call so
and so at such and such a phone number and make an appointment (on the
fourth Thursday of the next month with an R in the name) to drive 50
miles out of town and turn these in......."

When I commented, "Wow. That seems like a major inconvenience. I'm
surprised more people don't just screw all of that nonsense and throw
them into the nearest dumpster..........." they suddenly became very
accommodating and eagerly accepted my flares. :-)




Doug Kanter June 1st 05 08:49 PM

Great - one more thing to put in the emergency box: An oven mitt. :-(

"Sal's Dad" wrote in message
...
If you haven't had some practice firing flares, you should - it is quite
enlightening.

We regularly shoot off last years' flares on July 4th, or another local
"celebration". Flares are fired from the shore over the water (nowhere
near any boats) as practice.

As many as 75% misfire some years (not counting the expired ones!), and an
occasional burn from the hand-fired type keeps the reliability and safety
of these things in perspective.

--
Sal's Dad


How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call
the
fire dept?


**************

Don't do the 4th of July routine. The only reason you might not get
busted is that the cops are too busy dealing with everybody else.

Flares that are designed to be shot off when surrounded by wide
expanses of open water are not automatically safe when discharged into
the air while surrounded by hundreds of boats anchored or rafted beam
to beam for a fireworks display.

It isn't uncommon to see an illegally discharged, still burning,
parachute flare fall onto another boat's deck or rigging at FOJ
celebrations. I once saw a boater give a buring hand-held flare to a
little kid I'd be reluctant to trust with a sparkler.

The last time I bought flares, I took the expired cartridges down to
the fire station. At first, they gave me a hassle. "You need to call so
and so at such and such a phone number and make an appointment (on the
fourth Thursday of the next month with an R in the name) to drive 50
miles out of town and turn these in......."

When I commented, "Wow. That seems like a major inconvenience. I'm
surprised more people don't just screw all of that nonsense and throw
them into the nearest dumpster..........." they suddenly became very
accommodating and eagerly accepted my flares. :-)







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