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How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call
the
fire dept?


**************

Don't do the 4th of July routine. The only reason you might not get
busted is that the cops are too busy dealing with everybody else.

Flares that are designed to be shot off when surrounded by wide
expanses of open water are not automatically safe when discharged into
the air while surrounded by hundreds of boats anchored or rafted beam
to beam for a fireworks display.

It isn't uncommon to see an illegally discharged, still burning,
parachute flare fall onto another boat's deck or rigging at FOJ
celebrations. I once saw a boater give a buring hand-held flare to a
little kid I'd be reluctant to trust with a sparkler.

The last time I bought flares, I took the expired cartridges down to
the fire station. At first, they gave me a hassle. "You need to call so
and so at such and such a phone number and make an appointment (on the
fourth Thursday of the next month with an R in the name) to drive 50
miles out of town and turn these in......."

When I commented, "Wow. That seems like a major inconvenience. I'm
surprised more people don't just screw all of that nonsense and throw
them into the nearest dumpster..........." they suddenly became very
accommodating and eagerly accepted my flares. :-)


Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?

Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Yep thats what I am doing .. to a point of course as there is the time
when the expired flares will take up all the space in your boat

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?

Its legal. Carry whatever you like in addition to the required non
expired flares.

I rather carry 6 expired SOLAS flare than 3 non expired regular
(=useless) flares

matt

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
How does one dispose of expired flares? Save for the 4 of July? Call
the
fire dept?


**************

Don't do the 4th of July routine. The only reason you might not get
busted is that the cops are too busy dealing with everybody else.

Flares that are designed to be shot off when surrounded by wide
expanses of open water are not automatically safe when discharged into
the air while surrounded by hundreds of boats anchored or rafted beam
to beam for a fireworks display.

It isn't uncommon to see an illegally discharged, still burning,
parachute flare fall onto another boat's deck or rigging at FOJ
celebrations. I once saw a boater give a buring hand-held flare to a
little kid I'd be reluctant to trust with a sparkler.

The last time I bought flares, I took the expired cartridges down to
the fire station. At first, they gave me a hassle. "You need to call so
and so at such and such a phone number and make an appointment (on the
fourth Thursday of the next month with an R in the name) to drive 50
miles out of town and turn these in......."

When I commented, "Wow. That seems like a major inconvenience. I'm
surprised more people don't just screw all of that nonsense and throw
them into the nearest dumpster..........." they suddenly became very
accommodating and eagerly accepted my flares. :-)


Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?

I asked the Coast Guard Auxiliary this question. They said to put them in a
bag marked "practice flares", and keep them on board.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?

I asked the Coast Guard Auxiliary this question. They said to put them in a
bag marked "practice flares", and keep them on board.

Isn't that interesting. How do they expect you to practice with them?

Later,

Tom

You practice firing one in the air, then the CG practices coming to your
rescue, then they practice writing a citation with a big fine for your
initial practice of firing the practice flare. That is if they don't
practice arresting you...

--Mike

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board
when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting
USCG
regs?

I asked the Coast Guard Auxiliary this question. They said to put them in
a
bag marked "practice flares", and keep them on board.

Isn't that interesting. How do they expect you to practice with them?

Later,

Tom

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board
when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting
USCG
regs?

I asked the Coast Guard Auxiliary this question. They said to put them in
a
bag marked "practice flares", and keep them on board.

Isn't that interesting. How do they expect you to practice with them?

That's what I wondered.


Actually, I think he told me to write "training flares" on the zip-lock.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?


Whether it's illegal or not depends on the REAL reason you were pulled over.
I was subjected to a "safety check" last year, which I'm sure would not have
happened if my son's girlfriend hadn't been wearing a skirt so short. One
guy questioned me while his three ****** buddies were at the other end of
the boat asking her what high school she went to. My son commented later
that it was good I was sitting on the hatch where the handgun was stashed.
The ****** in charge cited me for a violation which turned out to be
completely inaccurate, per CG regs. When I trailered the boat to the CG
station, I had their CO look it over. He shook his head as if to say "What
the hell was so-and-so thinking?"

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:57:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?


Whether it's illegal or not depends on the REAL reason you were pulled over.
I was subjected to a "safety check" last year, which I'm sure would not have
happened if my son's girlfriend hadn't been wearing a skirt so short.

NO NO - NO THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!

One
guy questioned me while his three ****** buddies were at the other end of
the boat asking her what high school she went to. My son commented later
that it was good I was sitting on the hatch where the handgun was stashed.
The ****** in charge cited me for a violation which turned out to be
completely inaccurate, per CG regs. When I trailered the boat to the CG
station, I had their CO look it over. He shook his head as if to say "What
the hell was so-and-so thinking?"

~~ sigh ~~

Too late. :)

Later,

Tom

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:57:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase
and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board
when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting
USCG
regs?


Whether it's illegal or not depends on the REAL reason you were pulled
over.
I was subjected to a "safety check" last year, which I'm sure would not
have
happened if my son's girlfriend hadn't been wearing a skirt so short.

NO NO - NO THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!

What story? :-) Who are you? What am I doing here?

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:08:10 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:57:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

Why not just keep the expired ones alongside the new ones you purchase and
are up to date? That is what I did.

Is it illegal to have expired had held and gun fired flares on board when,
at the same time, you have a full compliment of "fresh" ones meeting USCG
regs?


Whether it's illegal or not depends on the REAL reason you were pulled over.
I was subjected to a "safety check" last year, which I'm sure would not have
happened if my son's girlfriend hadn't been wearing a skirt so short.

NO NO - NO THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!

One
guy questioned me while his three ****** buddies were at the other end of
the boat asking her what high school she went to. My son commented later
that it was good I was sitting on the hatch where the handgun was stashed.
The ****** in charge cited me for a violation which turned out to be
completely inaccurate, per CG regs. When I trailered the boat to the CG
station, I had their CO look it over. He shook his head as if to say "What
the hell was so-and-so thinking?"

~~ sigh ~~

Too late. :)

Later,

Tom

That'll be a good story no matter how many times it's told!

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)