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rcoleman May 30th 05 05:23 PM

How to drag a boat off land ?
 
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's going
to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a winch,
and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.



Old Boat Goat May 30th 05 06:14 PM

I'd jack it up enough to get some logs, rollers, even some planks, the
wetter and slimier the better, under her, . With some long, strong 2 X 4s
you should be able to lever and skid her into the water. Use some plywood
between the lever and the boat to spread the load if you're concerned about
crushing anything.

Don
an old boat goat

"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's
going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a
winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it
off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.




rcoleman May 30th 05 10:54 PM

God knows who has time to post asinine replies to every post under this
name; but please masturbate elsewhere in private. I'm embarrassed for you.

"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...
rcoleman wrote:
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over
the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide,
it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to
secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to
drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.

Forklift it onto a flatbed trailer and drive it to where you want it.

--
Query: Did Bush ever win at Nintendo?




Bowgus May 30th 05 11:03 PM

I have this situation in a movie seen before ... the Force rcoleman, use the
Force :-)

Or maybe since it's marshy, dig a ditch from the boat to that creek and
float it over ... not quite levitation but hey, close enough :-).

"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's

going
to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a winch,
and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.





rcoleman May 30th 05 11:10 PM

Not a bad idea, but this thing is in a spot that won't permit much jacking
I'm afraid. Too soft. "Lift" isn't going to be a word that will fit into
this plan. The roller concept could be part of the answer. I'm most
concerned with how much power will be needed to drag the hull over the land
to water. If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it, but I
can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek. This is just
for fun; a lark if you will. I need an another boat like a hole in the head.
But seeing a perfectly good boat sitting out of water just calls to me.
Perhaps it's just a Huck Finn adventure I'm looking for.
Thanks



"Old Boat Goat" wrote in message
news:uRHme.1521678$6l.1199664@pd7tw2no...
I'd jack it up enough to get some logs, rollers, even some planks, the
wetter and slimier the better, under her, . With some long, strong 2 X 4s
you should be able to lever and skid her into the water. Use some plywood
between the lever and the boat to spread the load if you're concerned
about crushing anything.

Don
an old boat goat

"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over
the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide,
it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to
secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to
drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.






Don White May 30th 05 11:17 PM

rcoleman wrote:
Not a bad idea, but this thing is in a spot that won't permit much jacking
I'm afraid. Too soft. "Lift" isn't going to be a word that will fit into
this plan. The roller concept could be part of the answer. I'm most
concerned with how much power will be needed to drag the hull over the land
to water. If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it, but I
can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek. This is just
for fun; a lark if you will. I need an another boat like a hole in the head.
But seeing a perfectly good boat sitting out of water just calls to me.
Perhaps it's just a Huck Finn adventure I'm looking for.
Thanks


Wonder if it went aground during a hurricane storm surge?
If you wait a while, I'm sure it'll happen again.

ed May 30th 05 11:32 PM

Hey, get a helicopter to lift it out of there for ya LOL ...is there anyway
of gettng a jeep or something down there with a winch to winch it out ?
"rcoleman" wrote in message
...
Not a bad idea, but this thing is in a spot that won't permit much jacking
I'm afraid. Too soft. "Lift" isn't going to be a word that will fit into
this plan. The roller concept could be part of the answer. I'm most
concerned with how much power will be needed to drag the hull over the
land to water. If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it,
but I can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek. This is
just for fun; a lark if you will. I need an another boat like a hole in
the head. But seeing a perfectly good boat sitting out of water just
calls to me. Perhaps it's just a Huck Finn adventure I'm looking for.
Thanks



"Old Boat Goat" wrote in message
news:uRHme.1521678$6l.1199664@pd7tw2no...
I'd jack it up enough to get some logs, rollers, even some planks, the
wetter and slimier the better, under her, . With some long, strong 2 X 4s
you should be able to lever and skid her into the water. Use some plywood
between the lever and the boat to spread the load if you're concerned
about crushing anything.

Don
an old boat goat

"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged
over the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar
tide, it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it
to secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in
to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.








[email protected] May 30th 05 11:51 PM

Maybe you could lay out some poly plastic, rent a 2 or 3" diaphram pump
and make a big water slide sort of thing like kids hook up to the water
hose in the back yard. A boat or two might be able to pull it then. It
sounds like beer would also help. Aside from that, can you legally just
take it? Sam


Butch Davis May 31st 05 12:08 AM

Kedge it off?

Butch
"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's
going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a
winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it
off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.




[email protected] May 31st 05 12:41 AM

S'pose somebody might *own* that boat, and *want* it, 15 yards from
the creek? :-)

Start dragging it away, and maybe get shot in some parts of the country.


Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 01:18 AM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:23:43 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's going
to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a winch,
and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?


A few ideas come to mind.

Cut a channel from the boat to the creek with a backhoe or dig it
yourself - fifteen yards isn't that far.

Cut it up into little pieces, move them, then reassemble them where
you want it.

Rent a skycrane to move it.

Ignore it and get on with your life.

Depending on how wide the creek is, you could put a truck on the
opposite side, install a drag line on a five rove block&tackle and
just pull it into the creek. This is probably how I would do it
assuming there is access to the other side of the creek.

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.


Which begs the question, why? :)

Later,

Tom





Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 01:22 AM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 23:08:12 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:

Kedge it off?


Hmmm - that might work. You'd need a heavy block and tackle set up
for a 23' boat though. Six/seven rove block at least.

Now that I think about it, that's as good a way as any. In particular
if you could use a truck to pull it up against the anchor.

Have to be a big anchor though if it's grounded.

Not a bad idea though.

Later,

Tom

Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 01:25 AM

On 30 May 2005 15:51:47 -0700, wrote:

It sounds like beer would also help.


Lot's of beer. :)

And pirate chantey's for hauling on the rope.

Then more beer.

Then bawdy rowing songs like "Barnacle Bill the Sailor".

More beer.

Then rousing renditions of "Beer 99 bottles of"

Beer. More. Drink.

Pass out and start all over again. :)

It will get to that creek eventually.

Later,

Tom


*JimH* May 31st 05 01:29 AM


"Red Cloud®" wrote in message
...
On 30 May 2005 16:41:33 -0700,
wrote:

S'pose somebody might *own* that boat, and *want* it, 15 yards from
the creek? :-)

Start dragging it away, and maybe get shot in some parts of the country.


Or shot in some parts of your ass!

rusty redcloud


LOL!



Old Boat Goat May 31st 05 01:39 AM

If you can't jack, you could try just levering it up high enough for rollers
or logs to slip under it. Use a log, stump, or something with some staying
power as a fulcrum. I've moved some pretty awkward things around with
levers, fulcrums and pivots.
As far as providing a winching anchor, will the ground around hold a
couple of good sized anchors, borrowed from other eager problem solvers that
I'm sure will jump into the project, and set them into the ground along with
a length of chain on each and a shackle to make a bridle. Might get away
with just one if the rollers/logs/planks do their job and the anchor hold is
good. Wouldn't really need a power winch either, just a come-along to roll
her along at about 25 feet per beer.

Don
an old boat goat

"rcoleman" wrote in message
...
Not a bad idea, but this thing is in a spot that won't permit much jacking
I'm afraid. Too soft. "Lift" isn't going to be a word that will fit into
this plan. The roller concept could be part of the answer. I'm most
concerned with how much power will be needed to drag the hull over the
land to water. If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it,
but I can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek. This is
just for fun; a lark if you will. I need an another boat like a hole in
the head. But seeing a perfectly good boat sitting out of water just
calls to me. Perhaps it's just a Huck Finn adventure I'm looking for.
Thanks



"Old Boat Goat" wrote in message
news:uRHme.1521678$6l.1199664@pd7tw2no...
I'd jack it up enough to get some logs, rollers, even some planks, the
wetter and slimier the better, under her, . With some long, strong 2 X 4s
you should be able to lever and skid her into the water. Use some plywood
between the lever and the boat to spread the load if you're concerned
about crushing anything.

Don
an old boat goat

"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged
over the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar
tide, it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it
to secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in
to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.








Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 02:00 AM

On Tue, 31 May 2005 00:45:41 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I vote for Oscar Brand


Be honest now - how many people here, without looking him up, know who
Oscar Brand is - excepting Gene and myself of course.

Good call on that one Gene. :)

Later,

Tom


Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 02:12 AM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 00:45:41 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


I vote for Oscar Brand



Be honest now - how many people here, without looking him up, know who
Oscar Brand is - excepting Gene and myself of course.

Good call on that one Gene. :)


Me, of course. Old farts tend to be more literate.


I prefer to be called a "Mellowed by age much like a fine wine fart" -
it has a little more cache than "old fart". :)

Later,

Tom

Don White May 31st 05 02:23 AM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 23:08:12 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:


Kedge it off?



Hmmm - that might work. You'd need a heavy block and tackle set up
for a 23' boat though. Six/seven rove block at least.

Now that I think about it, that's as good a way as any. In particular
if you could use a truck to pull it up against the anchor.

Have to be a big anchor though if it's grounded.

Not a bad idea though.

Later,

Tom


Who said..'give me a big enough lever & I'll move the world'?

Don White May 31st 05 02:26 AM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 00:45:41 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:


I vote for Oscar Brand



Be honest now - how many people here, without looking him up, know who
Oscar Brand is - excepting Gene and myself of course.

Good call on that one Gene. :)

Later,

Tom

Any relation to Oscar Myer?

Bill McKee May 31st 05 07:53 AM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 30 May 2005 15:51:47 -0700, wrote:

It sounds like beer would also help.


Lot's of beer. :)

And pirate chantey's for hauling on the rope.

Then more beer.

Then bawdy rowing songs like "Barnacle Bill the Sailor".

More beer.

Then rousing renditions of "Beer 99 bottles of"

Beer. More. Drink.

Pass out and start all over again. :)

It will get to that creek eventually.

Later,

Tom


I thought the beer was to wet the slide for the boat?



Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 11:10 AM

On Tue, 31 May 2005 01:23:01 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 23:08:12 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:


Kedge it off?



Hmmm - that might work. You'd need a heavy block and tackle set up
for a 23' boat though. Six/seven rove block at least.

Now that I think about it, that's as good a way as any. In particular
if you could use a truck to pull it up against the anchor.

Have to be a big anchor though if it's grounded.

Not a bad idea though.


Who said..'give me a big enough lever & I'll move the world'?


Some guy who drank a lot of beer?

Later,

Tom


Dry May 31st 05 12:38 PM

Drop down to the nearest Boy Scout shop and borrow or buy a Sky Hook.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:23:43 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's going
to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a winch,
and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?


A few ideas come to mind.

Cut a channel from the boat to the creek with a backhoe or dig it
yourself - fifteen yards isn't that far.

Cut it up into little pieces, move them, then reassemble them where
you want it.

Rent a skycrane to move it.

Ignore it and get on with your life.

Depending on how wide the creek is, you could put a truck on the
opposite side, install a drag line on a five rove block&tackle and
just pull it into the creek. This is probably how I would do it
assuming there is access to the other side of the creek.

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.


Which begs the question, why? :)

Later,

Tom


thunder May 31st 05 12:39 PM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:10:35 +0000, rcoleman wrote:


If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it,
but I can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek.


Perhaps an auger anchor?

http://www.for-sale-online.net/offic...nchor-kit.html

rcoleman May 31st 05 02:37 PM

Thanks for all of the ideas. To give you a few more details, Gene, you will
know the place, the boat is beached on Masonboro island. Ocean on one side,
creeks and marsh on the other. Reachable only by boat. It is public land,
and the boat is on the creek side. As I said before, about 15 yards from a
navigable creek. It wasn't put there on purpose; likely it broke from its
mooring and drifted there on its own. It is a bit of a mystery because we
didn't have any storm surges that you would expect capable of putting it
there, but there it is. It would appear fairly recently stranded from the
condition, and someone has stripped her of mast, tackle and rigging. At this
point, from my limited understanding of salvage law, I'd say she's fair
game. She'll float I believe, hull looks intact, but putting her right would
be quite an undertaking. My desire is to refloat her, take her up river to
another island on the Cape Fear, pull her up on that island, and use it like
a ersatz camper. Crazy, stupid, insane? sure, just like I like things. And
it will make a great story. So what the hell.

But it is an intellectual challenge nonetheless. All the equipment to do the
job must be readily available, at little cost, and must fit on a 18ft boat
to make it up the creek. So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.
And I am not overly concerned with the mechanics of putting her on the new
island, if I get that far, I can work that out.

For this phase however, I'm leaning toward an anchor array, a block and
tackle set-up, a come along, a really high tide, and a case of Rum. Should
be a hoot.

Thanks



"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's
going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a
winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it
off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.




ed May 31st 05 03:05 PM

If youre close to Washington State, I will help you if you supply the rum
lol
"rcoleman" wrote in message
m...
Thanks for all of the ideas. To give you a few more details, Gene, you
will know the place, the boat is beached on Masonboro island. Ocean on one
side, creeks and marsh on the other. Reachable only by boat. It is public
land, and the boat is on the creek side. As I said before, about 15 yards
from a navigable creek. It wasn't put there on purpose; likely it broke
from its mooring and drifted there on its own. It is a bit of a mystery
because we didn't have any storm surges that you would expect capable of
putting it there, but there it is. It would appear fairly recently
stranded from the condition, and someone has stripped her of mast, tackle
and rigging. At this point, from my limited understanding of salvage law,
I'd say she's fair game. She'll float I believe, hull looks intact, but
putting her right would be quite an undertaking. My desire is to refloat
her, take her up river to another island on the Cape Fear, pull her up on
that island, and use it like a ersatz camper. Crazy, stupid, insane? sure,
just like I like things. And it will make a great story. So what the hell.

But it is an intellectual challenge nonetheless. All the equipment to do
the job must be readily available, at little cost, and must fit on a 18ft
boat to make it up the creek. So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And
it must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking
involved. And I am not overly concerned with the mechanics of putting her
on the new island, if I get that far, I can work that out.

For this phase however, I'm leaning toward an anchor array, a block and
tackle set-up, a come along, a really high tide, and a case of Rum. Should
be a hoot.

Thanks



"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over
the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide,
it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to
secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to
drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.






Shortwave Sportfishing May 31st 05 05:23 PM

On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.


Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom

Don White May 31st 05 05:35 PM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.



Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom


This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

Saw a movie the other day where a Toyota Land Cruiser got stuck in a bog
in the Aussie Outback. The local woman tried to use what she called a
'dead man'. She buried the spare tire about 4 or 5 feet down in the
sand after attaching the winch cable to it. (nothing else around to
attach cable to). Didn't work though...the spare wheel anchor stayed
buried but the winch burned out.

[email protected] May 31st 05 05:42 PM

This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

************

Based on what has passed for discussion here recently, I'd say you'd be
gnuts to show up without a weapon. Forget the "peace pipe", bring a
piece of pipe.


John H May 31st 05 08:18 PM

On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:35:46 GMT, Don White wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.



Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom


This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

Saw a movie the other day where a Toyota Land Cruiser got stuck in a bog
in the Aussie Outback. The local woman tried to use what she called a
'dead man'. She buried the spare tire about 4 or 5 feet down in the
sand after attaching the winch cable to it. (nothing else around to
attach cable to). Didn't work though...the spare wheel anchor stayed
buried but the winch burned out.


Where is this place? Sounds like it might make a nice motorcycle ride. Hell,
count me in!

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

TwoGuns May 31st 05 08:23 PM

Will it float in water? If it will and it isn't too far above the water
level of the nearby creek (15 yards? you said) dig around the boat and
fill the cavity with enough water to float it. A portable genset and a
sump pump you can probably rent for $30 or so a day can be used to pump
water from the creek to the hole. Once the boat is floating in the hole
cut a channel just deep and wide enough to float it to the creek.
Depending on the elevation difference it shouldn't be too difficult. A
hard working teenager might come in handy.
Good luck.


TwoGuns May 31st 05 08:23 PM

Will it float in water? If it will and it isn't too far above the water
level of the nearby creek (15 yards? you said) dig around the boat and
fill the cavity with enough water to float it. A portable genset and a
sump pump you can probably rent for $30 or so a day can be used to pump
water from the creek to the hole. Once the boat is floating in the hole
cut a channel just deep and wide enough to float it to the creek.
Depending on the elevation difference it shouldn't be too difficult. A
hard working teenager might come in handy.
Good luck.


P.Fritz May 31st 05 09:07 PM


"TwoGuns" wrote in message
oups.com...
Will it float in water? If it will and it isn't too far above the water
level of the nearby creek (15 yards? you said) dig around the boat and
fill the cavity with enough water to float it. A portable genset and a
sump pump you can probably rent for $30 or so a day can be used to pump
water from the creek to the hole. Once the boat is floating in the hole
cut a channel just deep and wide enough to float it to the creek.
Depending on the elevation difference it shouldn't be too difficult. A
hard working teenager might come in handy.
Good luck.



The toughest part would be finding a hard working teenager






David Pendleton June 2nd 05 02:11 AM

Perhaps this would work:

Go to your local Home Depot/Lowes/Menards and buy several rolls of black
plastic sheeting. Whatever it takes to cover 15 yards times the width of the
'footprint' of the boat on it's side.

Lay this plastic between the boat and the creek. Spray the boat and the
plastic sheeting with a lot of (biodegradable) soap and water mixture, then
pull the boat on it's side on the plastic to the water.

Dave

"rcoleman" wrote in message
m...
Thanks for all of the ideas. To give you a few more details, Gene, you
will know the place, the boat is beached on Masonboro island. Ocean on one
side, creeks and marsh on the other. Reachable only by boat. It is public
land, and the boat is on the creek side. As I said before, about 15 yards
from a navigable creek. It wasn't put there on purpose; likely it broke
from its mooring and drifted there on its own. It is a bit of a mystery
because we didn't have any storm surges that you would expect capable of
putting it there, but there it is. It would appear fairly recently
stranded from the condition, and someone has stripped her of mast, tackle
and rigging. At this point, from my limited understanding of salvage law,
I'd say she's fair game. She'll float I believe, hull looks intact, but
putting her right would be quite an undertaking. My desire is to refloat
her, take her up river to another island on the Cape Fear, pull her up on
that island, and use it like a ersatz camper. Crazy, stupid, insane? sure,
just like I like things. And it will make a great story. So what the hell.

But it is an intellectual challenge nonetheless. All the equipment to do
the job must be readily available, at little cost, and must fit on a 18ft
boat to make it up the creek. So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And
it must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking
involved. And I am not overly concerned with the mechanics of putting her
on the new island, if I get that far, I can work that out.

For this phase however, I'm leaning toward an anchor array, a block and
tackle set-up, a come along, a really high tide, and a case of Rum. Should
be a hoot.

Thanks



"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over
the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide,
it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to
secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to
drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.






Shortwave Sportfishing June 2nd 05 03:12 AM

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:11:36 -0500, "David Pendleton"
wrote:

Perhaps this would work:

Go to your local Home Depot/Lowes/Menards and buy several rolls of black
plastic sheeting. Whatever it takes to cover 15 yards times the width of the
'footprint' of the boat on it's side.

Lay this plastic between the boat and the creek. Spray the boat and the
plastic sheeting with a lot of (biodegradable) soap and water mixture, then
pull the boat on it's side on the plastic to the water.


You forgot the part about the beer.

Later,

Tom


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