On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:06:50 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 26 May 2005 20:10:11 -0700, wrote:

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When they first built Shilshole Bay Marina back in the early 60's, the
moorage rate was 35 cents/foot/month. One of the old time brokers on
the lake likes to recall how about a year after Shilshole opened they
raised the rate to 50-cents. He said there were howls of protest, and a
lot of people went back inside the locks to look for moorage at 35-40
cents. I could stand 50-cents a foot. Heck, I'll pay up several years
in advance. :-)


Per month huh? Interesting.

I pay $75 per foot per season, May 1st to November 1st which works out
to $12.5 per foot per month or $400 per month.

I didn't put a lot of time into it, but I couldn't get the figures to
come out no matter how hard I tried - the gains would be marginal in
any case unless you really jacked up the prices which, as you said, is
what is happening.

Hey, trailer boats are looking better and better. :)

Join the club Tom.. my Sandpiper 565 doesn't cost me a cent, sitting in
my driveway this cold, dreary, wet May.

Man, you got that right. It looks like I might get out this weekend -
hopefully.

Later,

Tom

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:06:50 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 26 May 2005 20:10:11 -0700, wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


When they first built Shilshole Bay Marina back in the early 60's, the
moorage rate was 35 cents/foot/month. One of the old time brokers on
the lake likes to recall how about a year after Shilshole opened they
raised the rate to 50-cents. He said there were howls of protest, and a
lot of people went back inside the locks to look for moorage at 35-40
cents. I could stand 50-cents a foot. Heck, I'll pay up several years
in advance. :-)


Per month huh? Interesting.

I pay $75 per foot per season, May 1st to November 1st which works out
to $12.5 per foot per month or $400 per month.

I didn't put a lot of time into it, but I couldn't get the figures to
come out no matter how hard I tried - the gains would be marginal in
any case unless you really jacked up the prices which, as you said, is
what is happening.

Hey, trailer boats are looking better and better. :)

Join the club Tom.. my Sandpiper 565 doesn't cost me a cent, sitting in
my driveway this cold, dreary, wet May.

Man, you got that right. It looks like I might get out this weekend -
hopefully.

Later,

Tom

I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway. Makes for a
tacky looking neighborhood. Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.

Bill McKee wrote:



I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway. Makes for a
tacky looking neighborhood. Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.


Sailboats seem to be different. Most people are quite interested in my
baby when they see it. I'll pass your comments along to my provincial
tax assessor. Every year he raises my property value by 8 or 10%

"Don White" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:



I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway. Makes for
a tacky looking neighborhood. Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an
ordinance prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a
side yard.

Sailboats seem to be different. Most people are quite interested in my
baby when they see it. I'll pass your comments along to my provincial tax
assessor. Every year he raises my property value by 8 or 10%


As Samuel Clemens's stated about land "They are not making more of it.".
Just because the value of the neighborhood increases, does not mean it does
not have tacky houses. And you should have passed a Calif Proposition 13
type law. Can not keep infinitely raising the value of the property for tax
purposes when it is not sold. Prices the fixed income retiree's out of
their homes.

On Fri, 27 May 2005 19:17:28 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

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I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway.

Really - why?

Makes for a tacky looking neighborhood.

No it doesn't.

Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.

Good thing I don't live there then.

Later,

Tom

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 19:17:28 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

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I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway.

Really - why?

Makes for a tacky looking neighborhood.

No it doesn't.

Sure it does. I agree. No cars on blocks or house trailers and boats
stored long term in driveways in my neighborhood either thanks to our
covenenants, by-laws and restrictions.

You agree to these restrictions when purchasing a home here. Don't like
it? Don't move here.

My home is a major investment and I want to preserve the value.


Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.

Agreed.


Good thing I don't live there then.

Different strokes Tom. Don't force your feelings on others.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 19:17:28 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway.

Really - why?

Makes for a tacky looking neighborhood.

No it doesn't.

Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.

Good thing I don't live there then.

Later,

Tom


You may not be in a neighborhood of 100-150' lots. I guess rednecks with
3-4 cars in the front yard are OK also.

On Sat, 28 May 2005 04:22:41 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 May 2005 19:17:28 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway.

Really - why?

Makes for a tacky looking neighborhood.

No it doesn't.

Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.

Good thing I don't live there then.

You may not be in a neighborhood of 100-150' lots. I guess rednecks with
3-4 cars in the front yard are OK also.

The average house in my neighborhood has 300' frontage on four acres
of land attached. My own is a little bigger because I was the
developer of this particular parcel of land.

Also, ain't no rednecks 'round here exceptin' fer me. :)

I understand that in close neighborhoods, junk cars, boats and what
not can be a detractor and devalue property - I agree.

My argument is that in a neighborhood like mine, it's no big deal to
see a properly stored boat/camper/RV in the driveway over winter and
during the summer. It doesn't affect the value of the neighborhood in
any sense as evidenced by the last set of reassessment values.

And you wouldn't believe what I'm assessed for this place. :)

Even in a close neighborhood in CA, I've seen some very nice ski boats
and bass boats on lots no bigger than the space my barn occupies and
it didn't look "trashed" out.

Hey, to each their own as Jim says.

Later,

Tom

I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway. Makes for
a
tacky looking neighborhood. Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.


And we all know how sensible CA is in their lawmaking.

RM wrote:
I hate when people store their boats and RV's in the driveway. Makes for

a

tacky looking neighborhood. Livermore, CA. Years ago passed an ordinance
prohibiting such. Good law. Put it behind the fence! In a side yard.



And we all know how sensible CA is in their lawmaking.


Not just CA. Our new neighbours came down from Ontario. Seems their
old neighbourhood did the same. She questioned me about it when she saw
my 19 foor trailerable mini-cruiser in my driveway. No such by-laws on
my street yet.