| Home |
| Search |
| Today's Posts |
|
|
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
The filibuster is a US Senate rule. It is not based upon law nor is it
in the US Constitution. The rules of the Senate can be changed by the Senators at anytime as the US Senate has done for over 200 years ********** It isn't wise to rewrite the rules of the Senate every time the majority changes. Right now, the Ripuplickin's have a couple of vote advantage. The day come when the Demoncraps are on top again, and when that day comes you right wingers will once again be *very* interested in the traditional senate respect for the voice of the minority. If you want to marginalize the minority, when have 100 Senators at all? Send the 48 non-Republicans home, save the taxpayers the money for their salaries, and you guys can just run roughshod over the government like it's your private feifdom. |
|
#2
|
|||
|
|||
|
|
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
|
How else is representative government supposed to operate if majority
doesn't rule? Repubs have the majority of the votes in the Senate, House, and the White House. What else do they need to get a few judges approved? How is it fair for the minority (however close in numbers) to just say "We're taking our ball and going home."? Are you a democrat? You're satisfied that the representative that you voted for and are paying won't do his job and vote yes or no on a nominee? The dems tried this crap in the Texas state legislature a few years ago. They actually left the state twice en masse and shut down the legislature. In my book, that amounts to mob rule. They should have all been impeached. I would have been just as mad if it was the repubs pulling that crap, as I'm sure you would. |
|
#4
|
|||
|
|||
|
|
|
#5
|
|||
|
|||
|
DSK wrote: wrote: How else is representative government supposed to operate if majority doesn't rule? How about by not trampling on the minority... especially a minority that can summon a majority on many of the more right-wing proposals? How is insisting on a vote trampling on the minority? .... Repubs have the majority of the votes in the Senate, House, and the White House. Yes, but the far right does not have a majority, even within the Republican Party. That's why the 'nuclear option' and arm-twisting... why do several Republican Senators say that they've been 'beat up' by the Bush cabinet? What does that have to do with getting them to "just vote dammit"? ... What else do they need to get a few judges approved? Pick judges that aren't fascist whackoes. In your opinion only. But it's not your job or priviledge to decide if they are fascist. At this point it is the Senate's job and a minority of Senators are holding up the process. The minority should not have the power to shut down the system if they don't like what's going on. The minority never does like what's going on, that's why they are the minority. The dems only have to convince a few measly Senators that these appointees are "fascist". If they can't do it, then what rights should they have to block them from taking the bench? Did it amount to 'mob rule' in your book back in the early 1990s when Newt Gengrich led the Republican minority in the exact same kind of tactics? I already said ,"I would be just as mad if the repubs pulled this crap", but you snipped it. I was too young at the time to care about Newt, but yes it was dirty politics. Did you have a point? |
|
#6
|
|||
|
|||
|
wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: wrote: How else is representative government supposed to operate if majority doesn't rule? How about by not trampling on the minority... especially a minority that can summon a majority on many of the more right-wing proposals? How is insisting on a vote trampling on the minority? .... Repubs have the majority of the votes in the Senate, House, and the White House. Yes, but the far right does not have a majority, even within the Republican Party. That's why the 'nuclear option' and arm-twisting... why do several Republican Senators say that they've been 'beat up' by the Bush cabinet? What does that have to do with getting them to "just vote dammit"? ... What else do they need to get a few judges approved? Pick judges that aren't fascist whackoes. In your opinion only. But it's not your job or priviledge to decide if they are fascist. At this point it is the Senate's job and a minority of Senators are holding up the process. The minority should not have the power to shut down the system if they don't like what's going on. The minority never does like what's going on, that's why they are the minority. The dems only have to convince a few measly Senators that these appointees are "fascist". If they can't do it, then what rights should they have to block them from taking the bench? Did it amount to 'mob rule' in your book back in the early 1990s when Newt Gengrich led the Republican minority in the exact same kind of tactics? I already said ,"I would be just as mad if the repubs pulled this crap", but you snipped it. I was too young at the time to care about Newt, but yes it was dirty politics. Did you have a point? NO, he just choose to lie....Newt G, was the speaker of the house , he had absolutely NO power in the Senate. THe liebrals are desparate and will do anything not to give up power......unfortunately, a few spineless moderate republicans don't know how to act like a majority. |
|
#7
|
|||
|
|||
|
On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:57:55 -0400, "P.Fritz"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... DSK wrote: wrote: How else is representative government supposed to operate if majority doesn't rule? How about by not trampling on the minority... especially a minority that can summon a majority on many of the more right-wing proposals? How is insisting on a vote trampling on the minority? .... Repubs have the majority of the votes in the Senate, House, and the White House. Yes, but the far right does not have a majority, even within the Republican Party. That's why the 'nuclear option' and arm-twisting... why do several Republican Senators say that they've been 'beat up' by the Bush cabinet? What does that have to do with getting them to "just vote dammit"? ... What else do they need to get a few judges approved? Pick judges that aren't fascist whackoes. In your opinion only. But it's not your job or priviledge to decide if they are fascist. At this point it is the Senate's job and a minority of Senators are holding up the process. The minority should not have the power to shut down the system if they don't like what's going on. The minority never does like what's going on, that's why they are the minority. The dems only have to convince a few measly Senators that these appointees are "fascist". If they can't do it, then what rights should they have to block them from taking the bench? Did it amount to 'mob rule' in your book back in the early 1990s when Newt Gengrich led the Republican minority in the exact same kind of tactics? I already said ,"I would be just as mad if the repubs pulled this crap", but you snipped it. I was too young at the time to care about Newt, but yes it was dirty politics. Did you have a point? NO, he just choose to lie....Newt G, was the speaker of the house , he had absolutely NO power in the Senate. THe liebrals are desparate and will do anything not to give up power......unfortunately, a few spineless moderate republicans don't know how to act like a majority. The 'Constitutional' option hasn't been dispensed with, its use has simply been postponed. If the Dems start their **** again, it will be put back on the table. The Republicans just got three judges approved without a fight. -- John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!) |
|
#9
|
|||
|
|||
|
On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:04:15 -0400, John H wrote:
The 'Constitutional' option hasn't been dispensed with, its use has simply been postponed. If the Dems start their **** again, it will be put back on the table. The Republicans just got three judges approved without a fight. Really? You just don't get it. Those seven moderate Republicans just broke ranks with the far right wing of the party. Do the math. Frist doesn't have the votes for the "nuclear option." Once again, the checks and balances our forefathers put into the system have worked. Deny it if you will, but this country is still ruled by the center, not the far right or the far left. |
Hybrid Mode
